The Devils are exciting

[HBK27]

Got a question for Devils fans. When McLeod is healthy, is he sticking with the big team? He had a very good D+1 last year. He is another fast player with skill. No Zajac, Boyle, and McLeod. And still a handful to play.

I think it all depends on if there are any injuries to the forwards once he ready to return. If so, I'm sure they would like him to at least get a couple of games in to see if he may stick...but if not, there's not really anyone they can send down without passing through waivers to make room for him.

He didn't have that impressive of a camp, so in all likelihood he goes back to the OHL. But no rush in sending him down...let him heal completely, practice with the team so more and see what the forward situation is at that time. Even if completely healthy, he can stick around for a bit before the decision needs to be made.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I do not want to take anything away from the Devils but your opinion is hardly surprising. You stay up nights looking for negative things to say about the Leafs or for a negative spin. The minute you mention the Leafs we know we are wasting time in our lives we will never get back reading the post.

That was very far away from the best we can play, I know you do not want to believe that but it is true. Our passing was not as smart as usual and we got caught sleeping on several plays where our D just stood watching the game.

Yes their speed allowed them to exploit that but I doubt many would agree they are a faster team. We will see how the season series plays out but I have my doubts every game is going to be the Devil's dominating us. They sure are not going to be an easy win either.

Their team displayed all the qualities we do when we win, I am not going to be so quick as to anoint them the better team but last night they were. Over all though I do not think they are quite where we are yet in terms of talent but they are getting there fast. They also have a better goalie.

Just stop reading after reading I give credit to the Devils but we played bad narrative. All I am saying is there is a reason why other teams play bad. And last night to me it was more the Devils doing than the opposition having a bad night. I am sorry if this somehow offends you. But saying yeah we lost, but we were beat by goal tending or we were not sharp is usual is really saying the Devils got lucky last night. I could not disagree with this more. Devils were full credit for the win, they beat the refs, they beat a skilled fast team on the road, they got the saves and goals (none of the 6 were cheapies too) when it mattered.

 

[BlueBaron]

Just stop reading after reading I give credit to the Devils but we played bad narrative. All I am saying is there is a reason why other teams play bad. And last night to me it was more the Devils doing than the opposition having a bad night. I am sorry if this somehow offends you. But saying yeah we lost, but we were beat by goal tending or we were not sharp is usual is really saying the Devils got lucky last night. I could not disagree with this more. Devils were full credit for the win, they beat the refs, they beat a skilled fast team on the road, they got the saves and goals (none of the 6 were cheapies too) when it mattered.

You are inventing your own delusional narrative. Devil's played great, took advantage of our mistakes and yes their goalie played well. I totally give them credit for exploiting us. I am simply stating we were not at our best and they exploited us, good teams do that. You seem to be implying their skill set makes them able to out play us which was true last night but will probably not always be the case. I never said they were lucky. It's not lucky to have a good goalie. It is an aspect of their team which is superior.

Again, you are incapable of a rational discussion when the Leafs are mentioned. You are demonstrating that with this false narrative. How you can turn a compliment about superior goaltending into an insult is special, your creative writing skills are inspiring. By your reasoning no one should ever give Price credit for the Habs success, it's just an excuse for being the inferior team. How do you take yourself seriously because not many of us here do?

Does any Devil fan dispute Schneider is your best player?

 

[BayStreetBully]

How you can turn a compliment about superior goaltending into an insult is special, your creative writing skills are inspiring. By your reasoning no one should ever give Price credit for the Habs success, it's just an excuse for being the inferior team. How do you take yourself seriously because not many of us here do?

You are correct in that Schneider was spectacular last night. He had 50 shots peppered on him. I am happy that the Devils have him, as he will be the main reason why the Devils will be able to contend in the future. And that is not to take away from the rest of their team, as they have a good one.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

You are inventing your own delusional narrative. Devil's played great, took advantage of our mistakes and yes their goalie played well. I totally give them credit for exploiting us. I am simply stating we were not at our best and they exploited us, good teams do that. You seem to be implying their skill set makes them able to out play us which was true last night but will probably not always be the case. I never said they were lucky. It's not lucky to have a good goalie. It is an aspect of their team which is superior.

Again, you are incapable of a rational discussion when the Leafs are mentioned. You are demonstrating that with this false narrative. How you can turn a compliment about superior goaltending into an insult is special, your creative writing skills are inspiring.

You seem to be suggesting that the main reason the Devils won was because of goaltending and the leafs playing bad.

That's not really the truth. The leafs played bad because the devils made them play bad. They just couldn't handle the speed, skill and tenacity of the devils forwards.

They didn't exploit mistakes by the leafs, they created those mistakes.

They were a superior team top to bottom.

 

[joe dirte]

Just stop reading after reading I give credit to the Devils but we played bad narrative. All I am saying is there is a reason why other teams play bad. And last night to me it was more the Devils doing than the opposition having a bad night. I am sorry if this somehow offends you. But saying yeah we lost, but we were beat by goal tending or we were not sharp is usual is really saying the Devils got lucky last night. I could not disagree with this more. Devils were full credit for the win, they beat the refs, they beat a skilled fast team on the road, they got the saves and goals (none of the 6 were cheapies too) when it mattered.

I dont get the narrative that people think they played bad. they massively outshot them. devils fans claim it's only because of PP. yet they outshot them almost 2 to 1 at even strength. then they claim it's quality shots. tobwhich its quite clear the Leafs had a hell of a lot more of those too.

the devils beat the Leafs primarily on the back of an outstanding performance by Schneider. that's just the truth. some lesser credit should go to some good opportunistic play by a couple of kids, like Zacha. he played a great game.

i dont see why this is so hard for some to talk about. a goalie will win a team games, and Schneider is certainly one capable of that. that's why the team acquired him ffs.

I'm not worried as a leafs fan because I know they'll continue to win games, as they've shown they're a top team, even last night. the devils are starting on an upswing as well, and occasionally Schneider will win a few games for them. quite a few actually, because he's an awesome goalie. nothing wrong with that.

 

[MR4]

The thing that felt like it decided that NJ would win was the Gardiner unforced error on 5on3, going to credit NJ for that somehow? They capitalized on our mistakes and I give them full credit, but for the most part our mistakes were unforced.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Also this isn't the maple leafs post game thread.

 

[BlueBaron]

You seem to be suggesting that the main reason the Devils won was because of goaltending and the leafs playing bad.

That's not really the truth. The leafs played bad because the devils made them play bad. They just couldn't handle the speed, skill and tenacity of the devils forwards.

They didn't exploit mistakes by the leafs, they created those mistakes..

I did not say that, all I said was it was not our best game and NJ exploited it. If you want to turn that into some fictional tale feel free. Obviously Schneider's performance was a factor in the result but last time I checked the goalie was part of the team. A lesser goalie and the score may have been much closer. How can anyone dispute this and why is it a bad thing?

People are looking for reasons to be offended when there are none. It is starting to seem like nothing short of declaring the Devil's the better team and stating they beat us in the best game we ever played is acceptable.

I'm not dumping on the Devil, get over it.

 

[MoonDragn]

I keep reading people saying the Devil's D is bad. But that is not true at all, on paper they look inexperienced and unknown but all of them now can skate and keep up with the fast forwards. The transition game for the Devils is what is making the difference these first 3 games. Without the D skating and keeping that gap control, we would be just like last year.

 

[goonybird]

A lesser goalie and that game is another 13-15 goal mess.

 

[Zippy316]

Got a question for Devils fans. When McLeod is healthy, is he sticking with the big team? He had a very good D+1 last year. He is another fast player with skill. No Zajac, Boyle, and McLeod. And still a handful to play.

Probably depends when he's healthy. Maybe they give him a shot if he's healthy and someone is hurt or playing poorly by that time.

At this point, no one deserves out of the line-up, but with no Tippett and Bastian in Mississauga, I don't think the Devils are rushing to send him back there. Right now, he's around the team and skating with Boyle while recovering which should help acclimate him to the team in the future.

 

[Bramskii]

You seem to be suggesting that the main reason the Devils won was because of goaltending and the leafs playing bad.

That's not really the truth. The leafs played bad because the devils made them play bad. They just couldn't handle the speed, skill and tenacity of the devils forwards.

They didn't exploit mistakes by the leafs, they created those mistakes.

They were a superior team top to bottom.

Exactly this. And they did the same thing to Buffalo and Colorado, but at the time, people still wouldn't credit the Devils and instead blamed it on the other teams being bad..It's still hard for people to believe the devils are actually a very skilled offensive team.

 

[BlueBaron]

Exactly this. And they did the same thing to Buffalo and Colorado, but at the time, people still wouldn't credit the Devils and instead blamed it on the other teams being bad..It's still hard for people to believe the devils are actually a very skilled offensive team.

It seems even harder for some people to understand what was written.

I see now why the temper tantrum posts are here. Some people cannot take a compliment from a Leafs fan. Why bother?

 

[joe dirte]

You seem to be suggesting that the main reason the Devils won was because of goaltending and the leafs playing bad.

That's not really the truth. The leafs played bad because the devils made them play bad. They just couldn't handle the speed, skill and tenacity of the devils forwards.

They didn't exploit mistakes by the leafs, they created those mistakes.

They were a superior team top to bottom.

they most certainly were not better top to bottom.

goaltending is the MAIN reason they won. that's plainly clear. it's not the only reason, but it certainly reason number 1.

 

[HogTown06]

Exactly this. And they did the same thing to Buffalo and Colorado, but at the time, people still wouldn't credit the Devils and instead blamed it on the other teams being bad..It's still hard for people to believe the devils are actually a very skilled offensive team.

It's half and half really... The Devils played great and they are a talented group, no question about that, but just off the top of my head 3 mistakes that led to goals were unforced, like Brown sending a puck that was past the blue line back into his own zone while Devil's forwards were still there, Rosen making an errant pass that went straight to a Devils stick (Wood?) and Gardiner falling while trying to stop the puck on that 2 man advantage.

The Devils played great and they deserve credit for it but the Leafs were nowhere near the top of their game last night.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

they most certainly were not better top to bottom.

goaltending is the MAIN reason they won. that's plainly clear. it's not the only reason, but it certainly reason number 1.

Yep, pumping the leafs for 6 goals was just a minor reason.

 

[Bramskii]

Here's my take on the game, being there live. Did the Leafs control more of the game than NJ? Sure, but it still wouldn't have made a difference. The Devils had speed, skill and aggressiveness that overwhelmed the Leafs at times and forced mistakes. They've done that in their previous 2 games as well. They don't need sustained pressure in the opposing team's zone and a barrage of shots to score. As for the leafs 50 shots, the majority were of low quality from what I and everyone in my section saw. I overheard leaf fans complain that most of the shots were right at Schneider and from bad angles.

Leafs controlled the play but by no means were they the better team. All this talk about the leafs would win that game 9 times out of ten is silly. All of their goals were on powerplays, some of which were really weak calls.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

Am I supposed to be upset that we have a better goaltender?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

You are inventing your own delusional narrative. Devil's played great, took advantage of our mistakes and yes their goalie played well. I totally give them credit for exploiting us. I am simply stating we were not at our best and they exploited us, good teams do that. You seem to be implying their skill set makes them able to out play us which was true last night but will probably not always be the case. I never said they were lucky. It's not lucky to have a good goalie. It is an aspect of their team which is superior.

Again, you are incapable of a rational discussion when the Leafs are mentioned. You are demonstrating that with this false narrative. How you can turn a compliment about superior goaltending into an insult is special, your creative writing skills are inspiring. By your reasoning no one should ever give Price credit for the Habs success, it's just an excuse for being the inferior team. How do you take yourself seriously because not many of us here do?

Does any Devil fan dispute Schneider is your best player?

I am quite capable of rational discussion. I think my posts have been on point in this thread. However, it is you that is not capable of rational discussion. Saying the Devils are full credit for the win last night, but to point out out it was Goaltending or your own team not playing well, well really is not giving the Devils credit at all. You may claim it is, but no one is buying this, in this Devils is exciting thread. Nor your narrative you are incapable of rational discussion of any thing Leafs related you guys always bring up in a thread discussing the Devils team. If anyone is not capable of rational discussion on the game last night, you just proved it in your own posts. I know I have been very rational in my analysis on the Devils and the game last night in this thread, where many seem to agree with me and what I have posted.

 

[LeafGrief]

Devils absolutely deserve credit for being an exciting team. They attack with a ton of speed and clearly have some young players that are better than anyone knew about (who the hell is Bratt?!?). Last night was an entertaining hockey game to watch, even if my Buds got trounced. There were lots of lucky breaks for the Devils and I'd be happy to have the Leafs play them again tonight, but you have to give credit where it's due; you don't score 6 goals by accident. Their forwards awesome speed created lots of problems for the Leafs defense and then they jumped on the opportunities when they were there. I doubt that the Devils are a playoff team this year, but I think their fans will at the very least have a fun season of watching Devils hockey. Thank the hockey gods that those awful trap days are over. I'll be looking forward to the next Leafs-Devils game, that's for sure.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Am I supposed to be upset that we have a better goaltender?

That's something a lot of people aren't considering. Cory was awful last year, but the year before he kept that garbage team afloat. If he gets back to top form, this team is gonna be tough.

 

[BlueBaron]

I am quite capable of rational discussion. I think my posts have been on point in this thread. However, it is you that is not capable of rational discussion. Saying the Devils are full credit for the win last night, but to point out out it was Goaltending or your own team not playing well, well really is not giving the Devils credit at all. You may claim it is, but no one is buying this, in this Devils is exciting thread. Nor your narrative you are incapable of rational discussion of any thing Leafs related you guys always bring up in a thread discussing the Devils team. If anyone is not capable of rational discussion on the game last night, you just proved it in your own posts. I know I have been very rational in my analysis on the Devils and the game last night in this thread, where many seem to agree with me and what I have posted.

So you do take yourself seriously, well that's one person.

OK Schneider is crap and they won despite him. That was the best game we ever played and we will probably never beat the Devil's.

That is your idea of rational clearly.

Happy?

 

[BlueBaron]

Am I supposed to be upset that we have a better goaltender?

No, you should be proud of having one of the best in the game. Apparently though it is a crime to give him any credit in your success, it's kind of bizarre.

 

[DeVols]

I don't see a need for all of this back-and-forth between Devils, Leafs, and other fans. This thread is supposed to be about how exciting the Devils are, not a post-game thread. If you asked the majority of Devils fans at this time yesterday if they expected to win, the majority would have said no, myself included. We wanted to see our young team rise to the occasion against a team who most of us consider superior, and rightfully so. Our goal this year is, essentially, to be the Leafs of last year. Not only did we hang with the Leafs, but we out-skated, out-worked, and took advantage of their mistakes while playing a brand of hockey we, as Devils fans, can all be proud of.

Credit where credit is due, I think it should be said that a lot of Leafs fans, including many in this thread, came over to the Devils board last night to compliment us on our game and new-found brand of hockey. That's commendable, and is certainly something us Devils fans are not used to hearing. From any fan base.