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The Canucks are quietly the only team to not win a game so far

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swiftwin said:
Known it for years?

You guys were arguing that you "quietly" had the best forward core in the league just a month ago.
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Are you under the impression that we're a hivemind or something? Some fans thought we had a deep forward core, what does that have to do with me?

We have known for years that we're a cap team that would struggle to make the playoffs, that's a bad spot to be in. If you look at any of the discussion on the Canucks forum or listen to radio shows in the last few years, this is the overarching conclusion.
 
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How is it that the Canucks started terribly last year under Green, replaced him with Boudreau (too late), went on an absolute tear, then start this year under Boudreau even worse than they started under Green?

Makes zero sense.
 
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Time to sell off their stars now otherwise this season will be a write off. They're already behind the 8 ball.
 
Even before the season begins, guys already injured especially at the backend. Looks like will be the same for a while
 
Cloned said:
How is it that the Canucks started terribly last year under Green, replaced him with Boudreau (too late), went on an absolute tear, then start this year under Boudreau even worse than they started under Green?

Makes zero sense.
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It's all in their head. Blowing two leads to start the season in congress with a locker room who does not have a very robust level of confidence. I feel like we saw this with the Oilers as well, with seeing some real improvement in terms of culture and mentality only as of late. It's tough to pull yourself out of the dark void of suck. Just ask Buffalo.
 
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It's all in their head. Blowing two leads to start the season in congress with a locker room who does not have a very robust level of confidence. I feel like we saw this with the Oilers as well, with seeing some real improvement in terms of culture and mentality only as of late. It's tough to pull yourself out of the dark void of suck. Just ask Buffalo.
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Oilers never went .700 or whatever it was under a new coach only to go .100 under that same coach later though.

I thought you guys had fixed your main problem when you fired Green.
 
Cloned said:
Oilers never went .700 or whatever it was under a new coach only to go .100 under that same coach later though.

I thought you guys had fixed your main problem when you fired Green.
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The group looks mentally weak. 5 blown leads will do that. For example, in the latest game, after Carolina scored the 2-1 goal - it really rattled them. They couldn't settle down and look to counter-attack. Carolina would score again just a couple minutes later.
 
innitfam said:
The group looks mentally weak. 5 blown leads will do that. For example, in the latest game, after Carolina scored the 2-1 goal - it really rattled them. They couldn't settle down and look to counter-attack. Carolina would score again just a couple minutes later.
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It’s actually pretty crazy, could easily be 5-2 right now.
 
innitfam said:
The group looks mentally weak. 5 blown leads will do that. For example, in the latest game, after Carolina scored the 2-1 goal - it really rattled them. They couldn't settle down and look to counter-attack. Carolina would score again just a couple minutes later.
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All started from the Evander Kane high stick. They were in complete control of that first game until that moment.
 
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Cloned said:
It’s actually pretty crazy, could easily be 5-2 right now.
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Nah, a bad team is a bad team. Over 60 minutes they are still losing the games.
Some of us Canucks fans hope it gets bad enough that ownership/management finally loses confidence in this "core" and gets to a proper rebuild instead of this retool on the fly garbage.
 
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Szechwan said:
There are more Oiler fans in this thread than in their own GDTs
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You'd be surprised to know how many Oiler fans hate the Canucks more than the Flames.
Our decade of doom combined with their SC competitor teams made for a lot of shit talking from Canuck fans on here and everywhere.

Those scars remain.
 
innitfam said:
The group looks mentally weak. 5 blown leads will do that. For example, in the latest game, after Carolina scored the 2-1 goal - it really rattled them. They couldn't settle down and look to counter-attack. Carolina would score again just a couple minutes later.
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I don't think mental weakness is enough of a reason. Are they mentally weak? Certainly, but even teams that are tanking and know they are shit and don't need to win are still beating them in the standings. I think the Canucks know that the wheels can fall off because it has so many times, and they don't actually know how to fix it because they don't have the personnel to do it. When they lost Tanev, Markstrom, and to some degree Edler and Sutter, they lost the guys that are stable and know defense and defending a lead as a science, not some voodoo that relies on mental strength and skating hard. They just don't have the guys on the backend who can quarterback the defense and simplify that side of the game for their forwards and goaltender. They don't react positionally with consistency; they are a mix of physical d-men and offensive d-men who are prone to chasing the play and don't see the ice very well as a six man defensive unit. They play nervous when they have to play defense not because they are mentally weak, but because they know they are structurally weak and they get lost in the play.
 
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Boeser Fan said:
I'm glad the Oilers lost to Carolina and it was funny when Ryan Smith cried.
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Of course.
I still love LA and Boston for taking you guys out, I love when you signed Messier and all the misery he brought, I love when you made your goalie a captain and I love when you had that goofy 7th Canuck stuff.

That's what a rivalry is all about.
 
BluesyShoes said:
I don't think mental weakness is enough of a reason. Are they mentally weak? Certainly, but even teams that are tanking and know they are shit and don't need to win are still beating them in the standings. I think the Canucks know that the wheels can fall off because it has so many times, and they don't actually know how to fix it because they don't have the personnel to do it. When they lost Tanev, Markstrom, and to some degree Edler and Sutter, they lost the guys that are stable and know defense and defending a lead as a science, not some voodoo that relies on mental strength and skating hard. They just don't have the guys on the backend who can quarterback the defense and simplify that side of the game for their forwards and goaltender. They don't react positionally with consistency; they are a mix of physical d-men and offensive d-men who are prone to chasing the play and don't see the ice very well as a six man defensive unit. They play nervous when they have to play defense not because they are mentally weak, but because they know they are structurally weak and they get lost in the play.
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Good analysis. This is also exacerbated by the forwards not being very good or smart defensively, and puck management generally being poor among most of the players. If they try to turtle to protect the lead, they don’t have the bodies to do it consistently, and if they try to keep their foot on the gas, they end up giving the puck away in bad spots, which leads to chances the other way. The entire makeup of the team is just poor and it makes them worse than the overall talent on the roster (which still isn’t great).
 
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