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Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

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Leafshater67

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Relapsing said:
This is getting wonderfully spicy.

Hold out swayman. Hold out for every penny you think you're worth.

The rest of the Atlantic would really appreciate doing your part to help the Bruins shit the bed this year.

K thx
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As a leafs fan, he could hold out and miss the whole season and the leafs would still get smoked by a Korpisalo led bruins team in the playoffs.

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Sweeney seems grossly incompetent
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Grossly incompetent would be handing 10m x 8 to a goalie who’s never even been a pure starter before.

If Dubas was more incompetent and used RFA power to sway negotiations, the leafs would be better off. You can’t let agents burn you, especially on RFA’s. Cave once and you’ll always be forced to cave.
 
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If they haven't started already, the Bruins should be shopping Swayman, see if another sucker is willing to overpay the guy for his microscopic career accomplishments. Perhaps Waddell would bite.

In Boston, the goaltending benefits from the team system in front more than the team benefits from goaltending. Boston might as well give Korpisalo a chance at this point. Shop Swayman, maybe even break him down mentally for f***ing with the franchise as a bonus.
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I'm thinking Boston would rather not have him for 2 months or even the year than not have him going forward at all.
 

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They weren't smoked with Swayman so I'm not sure how they would get smoked facing an inferior goalie.
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They got beaten yet again and sent packing. Swayman is a good goalie as a 1A/B but he’s never even been the guy before and he wants more money than the games’ elite. Very risky IMO. He reeks of systems goalie to me, especially when Ulmark who was pretty mid won a Vézina there.

He seems like a prime candidate for a bridge deal. 7m x 3 or something. The fact that he’s demanding top star money and trying to make a statement for the market with his deal sits wrong with me and if I were a GM with full RFA power, I’d stick it to him too.
 
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Leafshater67 said:
They got beaten yet again and sent packing. Swayman is a good goalie as a 1A/B but he’s never even been the guy before and he wants more money than the games’ elite. Very risky IMO. He reeks of systems goalie to me, especially when Ulmark who was pretty mid won a Vézina there.

He seems like a prime candidate for a bridge deal. 7m x 3 or something. The fact that he’s demanding top star money and trying to make a statement for the market with his deal sits wrong with me and if I were a GM with full RFA power, I’d stick it to him too.
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Yes they got beaten but they weren't smoked like you said. It was Game 7 in OT and Swayman is much better than Korpisalo. Not really sure what your point is.
 
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Blitzkrug said:
Spitting Chiclets is reporting otherwise; Ryan Whitney is claiming the Bruins last apparently offered Swayman a 4 year, 6.5 million per year deal. Swayman rejected it and the Bruins apparently haven't returned his calls or messages since. Don Sweeney says Jeremy Swayman remains unsigned, rips ‘inaccurate’ reports

Which led to this tweet from Paul Bissonette

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836480560476070115

I know Chiclets isn't well liked by everyone, but the last time Biz went on the warpath like this is when he called out Mike Babcock for his weird ass behavior. People called him a clout chaser, moron etc but the truth came out and to a lot of people's shock, Biz had sources within the Jackets org feeding him the info. To be expected of a podcast that has so many ties to players both current and former.

I would be willing to bet their source here is Swayman himself. And if that's case, someone punt Donnie into the sun please.
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Chicklets is unreal, this sounds like it could be a wild situation. Cant wait to see it play out. I feel like you're putting the cart before the horse here in regards to comparing it to Babcock.

Leafshater67 said:
As a leafs fan, he could hold out and miss the whole season and the leafs would still get smoked by a Korpisalo led bruins team in the playoffs.
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Absolutely not, people really weren't paying attention to how bad he was last year. And really most of his career outside of 2 or 3 outlier seasons. He is a talented athletic goalie but he has no discipline in his craft, lacks focus and is insanely mentally weak.
 
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It’s time some bruins GOT PAID!

Get that bag, Jeremy
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Pasta is paid fair. Swayman will be too. He has the leverage. No Swayman = no playoffs. GMs get fired when high expectations are not met because of a problem they created.
 
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I think we all know that Swayman is a better goalie than Korpisalo, I don't think anyone is arguing that.

It's also extremely obvious that Korpisalo is not as bad as his numbers in Ottawa indicate, as that is mostly the result of playing behind an ECHL level d corps.
 

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I think Swayman is overplaying his hand by thinking he has all the leverage. He has complained many times in the last year, that he did not like the arbitration award last fall - he was the one who initiated the process not the Bruins. Did he expect that the Bruins would just give him what he wanted because he filed. The Bruins presented a case and the arbitrator agreed and Swayman bitches its unfair,

He is attempting to get even because his feelings were bruised. There are threats that he won't sign until December 1. The Bruins could reduce their offer, at December 1, to a one-year deal with the dollar value reduced to reflect missed games and tell him it is his choice to take it or not.. If he refuses Swayman gets $0 and still has two years to UFA and remains Bruins property.

Get the egos (must win by both sides) out of the way and negotiate a fair contract
 
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I think we all know that Swayman is a better goalie than Korpisalo, I don't think anyone is arguing that.

It's also extremely obvious that Korpisalo is not as bad as his numbers in Ottawa indicate, as that is mostly the result of playing behind an ECHL level d corps.
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People keep over exaggerating how bad Ottawa's defense was last year. Were they bottom half sure but they weren't some giant tire fire they were around 20th in the league defensively. They were constantly chasing games because of a soft early goal. If Korpisalo can somehow figure out how to start on time then that is another story, you remove the goals he let in on the first three shots of the game last year and he was pretty average.

I saw a video of all of them a while back but I cant find it now. Oddly enough the number of goals he allowed above expected was roughly equal to the number of goals he allowed on the first 3 shots of the game.

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I think Swayman is overplaying his hand by thinking he has all the leverage. He has complained many times in the last year, that he did not like the arbitration award last fall - he was the one who initiated the process not the Bruins. Did he expect that the Bruins would just give him what he wanted because he filed. The Bruins presented a case and the arbitrator agreed and Swayman bitches its unfair,

He is attempting to get even because his feelings were bruised. There are threats that he won't sign until December 1. The Bruins could reduce their offer, at December 1, to a one-year deal with the dollar value reduced to reflect missed games and tell him it is his choice to take it or not.. If he refuses Swayman gets $0 and still has two years to UFA and remains Bruins property.

Get the egos (must win by both sides) out of the way and negotiate a fair contract
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That may or may not be true, there are a few calculations for UFA, if in two seasons he hits the age calculation then he is a UFA regardless, but there is a calculation that lets them get there earlier based on seasons played and that of course would be affected.
 
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bert said:
Chicklets is unreal, this sounds like it could be a wild situation. Cant wait to see it play out. I feel like you're putting the cart before the horse here in regards to comparing it to Babcock.


Absolutely not, people really weren't paying attention to how bad he was last year. And really most of his career outside of 2 or 3 outlier seasons. He is a talented athletic goalie but he has no discipline in his craft, lacks focus and is insanely mentally weak.
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would love to see Sweeney say 'Sure, i'll come on the show and respond to what you are saying you are hearing, as long as you state the source of who told you, on the air.'
 
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At this point let Korp play behind that bruins defense and system, watch him put up good numbers and suddenly swaymann’s a little less important to the team’s success than he may have thought he was.
 
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