Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[Dog]

Doesn't seem like the people who call the shots in Boston really liked Ullmark.

Playoffs he struggled so went different direction.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Playoffs he struggled so went different direction.

And Ullmark picked a new home where he won't have to worry about this anymore.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Playoffs he struggled so went different direction.

To be faire to Ullmark in 2023 was playing hurt(re-aggravated his groin), Swayman should have been in net after Game 3. I blame the coaching staff for that one though.

I don't blame the Bruins for going with Swayman though, groin injuries for a goalie can be a death sentence for their career.

 

[Dog]

And Ullmark picked a new home where he won't have to worry about this anymore.

Sens I think will miss playoffs last year 78 points this year maybe 85 points.

 

[Dog]

To be faire to Ullmark in 2023 was playing hurt(re-aggravated his groin), Swayman should have been in net after Game 3. I blame the coaching staff for that one though.

I don't blame the Bruins for going with Swayman though, groin injuries for a goalie can be a death sentence for their career.

Yes, it happens.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I think I'd rather get a lesser pick for Ullmark than get taken to the cleaners for the next 8 years by Swayman.

Especially considering Pasta and McAvoy already have huge contracts.

Both players already underpaid and worth more then the contracts they signed.

Who knows how hard-core He Is negotiating with Swayman.

He's 25 and he's got 10 good goaltending years left.

If I'm signing a 8 year deal I wanna get paid.

 

[gstommylee]

Both players already underpaid and worth more then the contracts they signed.

Who knows how hard-core He Is negotiating with Swayman.

He's 25 and he's got 10 good goaltending years left.

If I'm signing a 8 year deal I wanna get paid.

But for a goalie that only played on average around 43 games a season isn't exactly going to fetch a high starting goalie level contract.

 

[bert]

He really wont sign an 8 X 8 eh. Pretty wild.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Sweeney seems grossly incompetent

 

[wintersej]

You ok? is .903 good? Since 2017 he has had better than a .900 save percentage in two seasons. Its ok if you dont want to do any work or want to work in the realm of reality. He's a mental midget that cant make a save when a game matters.

Boston had just as bad metrics as Ottawa did last year in terms of quality shot given up. But I am sure you knew that too.

.900 is NHL average now a days.

People pointing to the metrics when watching Ottawa and Boston play D are too married to made up approximations, and I say this as a stats fan. Shot location and type is only part of what makes a given shot hard or not to save... and Boston's structure makes the same shot a hell of a lot easier than the hair on fire Ottawa D-zone coverage.

I'm not saying that Korpisalo is good, but neither are the guys like Mrazek, Husso, Allen, Vejmelka he has similar stats to over the last 5 years. But, he isn't as bad as he was in Ottawa last season, just like Forsberg isn't that bad, either. Korpisalo will be fine in a backup role and will be fine getting in a little extra work if Swayman is out the first 25 games of the season.

 

[Dog]

.900 is NHL average now a days.

People pointing to the metrics when watching Ottawa and Boston play D are too married to made up approximations, and I say this as a stats fan. Shot location and type is only part of what makes a given shot hard or not to save... and Boston's structure makes the same shot a hell of a lot easier than the hair on fire Ottawa D-zone coverage.

I'm not saying that Korpisalo is good, but neither are the guys like Mrazek, Husso, Allen, Vejmelka he has similar stats to over the last 5 years. But, he isn't as bad as he was in Ottawa last season, just like Forsberg isn't that bad, either. Korpisalo will be fine in a backup role and will be fine getting in a little extra work if Swayman is out the first 25 games of the season.

Vejmelka I think will have better year. New location with better players added.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Brandon Bussi will become the modern day Hamburglar.

 

[Blitzkrug]

He really wont sign an 8 X 8 eh. Pretty wild.

Spitting Chiclets is reporting otherwise; Ryan Whitney is claiming the Bruins last apparently offered Swayman a 4 year, 6.5 million per year deal. Swayman rejected it and the Bruins apparently haven't returned his calls or messages since. Don Sweeney says Jeremy Swayman remains unsigned, rips ‘inaccurate’ reports

Which led to this tweet from Paul Bissonette

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836480560476070115

I know Chiclets isn't well liked by everyone, but the last time Biz went on the warpath like this is when he called out Mike Babcock for his weird ass behavior. People called him a clout chaser, moron etc but the truth came out and to a lot of people's shock, Biz had sources within the Jackets org feeding him the info. To be expected of a podcast that has so many ties to players both current and former.

I would be willing to bet their source here is Swayman himself. And if that's case, someone punt Donnie into the sun please.

 

[Stephen]

Spitting Chiclets is reporting otherwise; Ryan Whitney is claiming the Bruins last apparently offered Swayman a 4 year, 6.5 million per year deal. Swayman rejected it and the Bruins apparently haven't returned his calls or messages since. Don Sweeney says Jeremy Swayman remains unsigned, rips ‘inaccurate’ reports

Which led to this tweet from Paul Bissonette

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836480560476070115

I know Chiclets isn't well liked by everyone, but the last time Biz went on the warpath like this is when he called out Mike Babcock for his weird ass behavior. People called him a clout chaser, moron etc but the truth came out and to a lot of people's shock, Biz had sources within the Jackets org feeding him the info. To be expected of a podcast that has so many ties to players both current and former.

I would be willing to bet their source here is Swayman himself. And if that's case, someone punt Donnie into the sun please.

Swayman did allude to a tough arbitration last summer with Boston and how it was an eye opener about the business. Not sure if feelings were simply hurt or if Sweeney doesn't play nice.

I just think back to the Boston Bruins history with Harry Sinden. Even as recent as the late 90s and early 2000s they had no qualms with walking away from Dimitri Khristich, think they dumped Jason Allison over a contract stalemate, think Bryan Smolinski and Glen Wesley were tough negotiations, Wesley signed an offer sheet with Hartford. Bruins organization just plays hard ball. I'm sure Don Sweeney and Cam Neely learned a thing or two.

 

[Stephen]

Brandon Bussi will become the modern day Hamburglar.

I have no doubt Korpisalo will turn into Ullmark and Bussi will look like a Jeremy Swayman clone. So much work has been done to that Bruins blueline that if any team could avoid paying a goalie premium dollars it would be Boston.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Spitting Chiclets is reporting otherwise; Ryan Whitney is claiming the Bruins last apparently offered Swayman a 4 year, 6.5 million per year deal. Swayman rejected it and the Bruins apparently haven't returned his calls or messages since. Don Sweeney says Jeremy Swayman remains unsigned, rips ‘inaccurate’ reports

At risk of sounding like “old man yelling at cloud”, so many articles now are lacking basic proofreading and nearly impossible to follow. Ie. this one.

“I think it’s bull-[expletive] that somebody says I wouldn’t return a call for three weeks,” Swayman said. “There. That’s inaccurate. Was it said? Was it written? I will tell you, I don’t listen to podcasts. My son loves [Paul Bissonnette], thinks he’s fabulous. I think he’s a great entertainer.

Huh? I can figure out that they obviously mis-spelled and meant Sweeney, but if you’re someone reading that article without context, it’s confusing AF and completely alters the story.

Sorry. I’ve seen so many poorly edited, word salad articles lately…

 

[Clint Eastwood]

I have no doubt Korpisalo will turn into Ullmark and Bussi will look like a Jeremy Swayman clone.

Exactly. Instead of hugs at the end of the game they'll be bumping bums in celebration.

That calder and vezina wombo combo from the Korpibussi gang will be a legendary moment in Boston sports history!!!!!

 

[Stephen]

Exactly. Instead of hugs at the end of the game they'll be bumping bums in celebration.

That calder and vezina wombo combo from the Korpibussi gang will be a legendary moment in Boston sports history!!!!!

It’s inevitable… all joking aside Ullmark and Swayman were hardly bluechip when they started their tandem super friends journey. So there’s a better than 0 chance they can replicate it with two other guys. Korpisalo has been good before in the past behind a stingy CBJ blueline. Bussi seems like a guy who has been developed with care.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Sounds like trouble in paradise for the bruins

I’m here for it!!!

About time. Bruins fans were always looking down their nose because they got lucky with a few contracts and then Bergeron decided to basically play for free one last time. About time they have a player hold out and demand more than their worth.

Ask us how it went when Willy was out till then. Bruins season over before it starts if Dec 1 is on the table

 

[Blitzkrug]

About time. Bruins fans were always looking down their nose because they got lucky with a few contracts and then Bergeron decided to basically play for free one last time. About time they have a player hold out and demand more than their worth.

Ask us how it went when Willy was out till then. Bruins season over before it starts if Dec 1 is on the table

It was really just the Bergeron and Marchand ones they got lucky on.

Bergeron was obviously almost impossibly valuable but the fact his point totals stayed relatively the same meant the Bruins could get away with giving him less since the raw numbers weren't there.

Marchand was just a guy who took less because he liked the situation. He could have easily cashed in big time once his explosion came post-Julien but didn't.

Pretty much every other deal/extension they signed (Krejci, Rask, Chara in the past and then McAvoy and Pastrnak in the current era) were at market value so this is more of a half-truth in my opinon.

Playoffs he struggled so went different direction.

He struggled, and the Bruins upcoming cap crunch meant they couldn't keep him even if they really wanted to.

If the Bruins didn't need that 5 million of space Ullmark was taking up, i guarantee you he's probably still there given he was really happy with the organization/situation.

 

[Leafshater67]

This is getting wonderfully spicy.

Hold out swayman. Hold out for every penny you think you're worth.

The rest of the Atlantic would really appreciate doing your part to help the Bruins shit the bed this year.

K thx

As a leafs fan, he could hold out and miss the whole season and the leafs would still get smoked by a Korpisalo led bruins team in the playoffs.

Sweeney seems grossly incompetent

Grossly incompetent would be handing 10m x 8 to a goalie who’s never even been a pure starter before.

If Dubas was more incompetent and used RFA power to sway negotiations, the leafs would be better off. You can’t let agents burn you, especially on RFA’s. Cave once and you’ll always be forced to cave.

 

[Rob Brown]

As a leafs fan, he could hold out and miss the whole season and the leafs would still get smoked by a Korpisalo led bruins team in the playoffs.

They weren't smoked with Swayman so I'm not sure how they would get smoked facing an inferior goalie.

 

[TGWL]

If they haven't started already, the Bruins should be shopping Swayman, see if another sucker is willing to overpay the guy for his microscopic career accomplishments. Perhaps Waddell would bite.

In Boston, the goaltending benefits from the team system in front more than the team benefits from goaltending. Boston might as well give Korpisalo a chance at this point. Shop Swayman, maybe even break him down mentally for f***ing with the franchise as a bonus.

I'm thinking Boston would rather not have him for 2 months or even the year than not have him going forward at all.

 

[Leafshater67]

They weren't smoked with Swayman so I'm not sure how they would get smoked facing an inferior goalie.

They got beaten yet again and sent packing. Swayman is a good goalie as a 1A/B but he’s never even been the guy before and he wants more money than the games’ elite. Very risky IMO. He reeks of systems goalie to me, especially when Ulmark who was pretty mid won a Vézina there.

He seems like a prime candidate for a bridge deal. 7m x 3 or something. The fact that he’s demanding top star money and trying to make a statement for the market with his deal sits wrong with me and if I were a GM with full RFA power, I’d stick it to him too.

 

[Rob Brown]

They got beaten yet again and sent packing. Swayman is a good goalie as a 1A/B but he’s never even been the guy before and he wants more money than the games’ elite. Very risky IMO. He reeks of systems goalie to me, especially when Ulmark who was pretty mid won a Vézina there.

He seems like a prime candidate for a bridge deal. 7m x 3 or something. The fact that he’s demanding top star money and trying to make a statement for the market with his deal sits wrong with me and if I were a GM with full RFA power, I’d stick it to him too.

Yes they got beaten but they weren't smoked like you said. It was Game 7 in OT and Swayman is much better than Korpisalo. Not really sure what your point is.