OT: The Avalounge but every time someone posts the quality declines

[Foppberg]

So cold you can die in a few minutes in Ottawa.

Yep. It's pretty damn cold, supposed to warm up after today though.

Also, I know we're not supposed to get political here, and delete this if it crosses some kind of rule, but Ol' Trumpy boy with yet another classic Twitter speech. 10/10 president.

 

[LieutenantDangle]

Black mirror s4e6 is like 3 stories in one. However the first story seems like a pretty big rip off of Clive Barker’s Hellraiser

 

[Pokecheque]

American TV brought over the wrong TSN duo. It shouldn't have been Jay and Dan, it should've been Natasha and Kate.

 

[ABasin]

My buddy told me that Telluride has only had 26" of snowfall all season, and only green and blue runs open. Is this really the case? Dang.

Heading to Winter Park tomorrow to give it a shot. I skied Copper last week, hopped into the trees because it looked good from the lift, took 3 turns and promptly hit a tree root that was showing, and effing tumbled myself down the mountain. Back to the trail.

 

[UncleRisto]

Yo, the use of the word Millennial has to be my biggest pet peeve.

PSA: Millennials are a specific generation of people - not a catchall term for everyone who's younger than you regardless of what age you are.

Like, did you see the Sportsnet bitch-ass post about the WJC Team Canada? "This is how Millennials celebrate". Guy, you're 26, YOU'RE A MILLENNIAL.

 

[henchman21]

Yo, the use of the word Millennial has to be my biggest pet peeve.

PSA: Millennials are a specific generation of people - not a catchall term for everyone who's younger than you regardless of what age you are.

^Yep! And that Generation Z (or whatever they end up being termed... iGeneration, Homeland Generation, whatever) are already out there and coming of age (the cutoff is around 9/11 for most).

 

[Foppberg]

Yo, the use of the word Millennial has to be my biggest pet peeve.

PSA: Millennials are a specific generation of people - not a catchall term for everyone who's younger than you regardless of what age you are.

Like, did you see the Sportsnet *****-ass post about the WJC Team Canada? "This is how Millennials celebrate". Guy, you're 26, YOU'RE A MILLENNIAL.

Not to mention they're generation Z kids. I think saying millennials is just a new way to make fun of people who are always on social media, eating avocado toast, and other stereotypical things.

 

[UncleRisto]

^Yep! And that Generation Z (or whatever they end up being termed... iGeneration, Homeland Generation, whatever) are already out there and coming of age (the cutoff is around 9/11 for most).

Yeah, the cutoff should be somewhere between 1994 or 1995 and 9/11. The term Millennial coming from the fact that the first Millennials came of age either around or at the Millennium, but somehow that's either completely missed or then it's morphing into "born around the Millennium".

 

[henchman21]

Yeah, the cutoff should be somewhere between 1994 or 1995 and 9/11. The term Millennial coming from the fact that the first Millennials came of age either around or at the Millennium, but somehow that's either completely missed or then it's morphing into "born around the Millennium".

Agreed. The next generation should be the post 9/11 generation somehow, it fundamentally changed how the world is. Whether that is born after 9/11 or were young enough for that to not really be a memory. I'd probably lean late 90s as the best cutoff.

 

[Foppberg]

Finished Black Mirror the other day, really didn't love season 4. It had some good episodes but it paled in comparison to season 1 and 2.

 

[UncleRisto]

Agreed. The next generation should be the post 9/11 generation somehow, it fundamentally changed how the world is. Whether that is born after 9/11 or were young enough for that to not really be a memory. I'd probably lean late 90s as the best cutoff.

That's where I'd put it. Being born in 1995, I feel like I'm right around the cutoff range.

I'm sure you're right about the impact of 9/11. I can't say, especially as a European, that I really have a real memory of 9/11. I mean I remember a bunch of stuff from when I was six; watching the hockey World Championships in 2001 and preschool and stuff but the magnitude of the attack didn't reach a six-year-old over here, I suppose. I think the Boxing Day tsunami in 2004 is about the first piece of upsetting news that I have a reliable memory of seeing on the news.

 

[henchman21]

I'd probably say you'd fall in the generation z then... I think a post 9/11 world is a good cutoff. People that don't remember the differences before, likely have a different outlook. 9/11 is probably a very American sort of way of looking at it, but it did have such a world wide impact and the spike in larger terrorist events not only in the US, but in Europe as well ties to that. Just a much different world than it was in the 90s... at least from what I remember.

 

[UncleRisto]

I'd probably say you'd fall in the generation z then... I think a post 9/11 world is a good cutoff. People that don't remember the differences before, likely have a different outlook. 9/11 is probably a very American sort of way of looking at it, but it did have such a world wide impact and the spike in larger terrorist events not only in the US, but in Europe as well ties to that. Just a much different world than it was in the 90s... at least from what I remember.

Sounds fair.

Okay. In what way, outside of American airports?

 

[Foppberg]

Honestly I don't remember 9/11, but I'm Canadian. I remember select things from before say.. 2005, but I don't think 9/11 was ever covered.

Which is kind of freaky when you think about it, I'm 24 years old and I don't remember much about my life before 2005.

 

[henchman21]

Sounds fair.

Okay. In what way, outside of American airports?

The constant war on terror, rise of the intelligence state and monitoring, explosion of the internet and all the pros and cons that go with it (not 9/11 related so much as something that just happened), rise and fall of US military action overseas, and the resurgence of nationalism against globalization are the big things I see.

 

[UncleRisto]

The constant war on terror, rise of the intelligence state and monitoring, explosion of the internet and all the pros and cons that go with it (not 9/11 related so much as something that just happened), rise and fall of US military action overseas, and the resurgence of nationalism against globalization are the big things I see.

Well now, I did witness the rise of the Internet, but I would have had to be much older to spot anything that Americentric from over here.

Honestly I don't remember 9/11, but I'm Canadian. I remember select things from before say.. 2005, but I don't think 9/11 was ever covered.

Which is kind of freaky when you think about it, I'm 24 years old and I don't remember much about my life before 2005.

Yeah, there's no way I never saw it on the news but I don't have a reliable memory of 9/11 either.

That other thing is strange though, because I have a bunch of memories that predate school, and I started first grade in 2002. They're hazy and vaguely timestamped, but they're definitely there.

 

[Foppberg]

Well now, I did witness the rise of the Internet, but I would have had to be much older to spot anything that Americentric from over here.

Yeah, there's no way I never saw it on the news but I don't have a reliable memory of 9/11 either.

That other thing is strange though, because I have a bunch of memories that predate school, and I started first grade in 2002. They're hazy and vaguely timestamped, but they're definitely there.

I have memories from middle school decent, but hazy. Elementary school only a few things, and before school completely.. like two events.

 

[henchman21]

My first memory is busting all my front teeth out trying to jump off the back of a trailer onto concrete steps. I ~4... after that the next I have is my first day of school and the misery that was.

 

[UncleRisto]

I have memories from middle school decent, but hazy. Elementary school only a few things, and before school completely.. like two events.

Usually specific memories start from age (late) three or four - this due to memory development. Seems strange that you wouldn't have those. What do you mean when you say only a few things from elementary school?

We create false memories and a lot of them fade and fragment, but usually we remember (falsely or otherwise) many small unimportant little moments and sounds and smells and whatnot.

 

[Foppberg]

Usually specific memories start from age (late) three or four - this due to memory development. Seems strange that you wouldn't have those. What do you mean when you say only a few things from elementary school?

We create false memories and a lot of them fade and fragment, but usually we remember (falsely or otherwise) many small unimportant little moments and sounds and smells and whatnot.

Like during the period I was in elementary school (grades E-4) I only remember.. 3? things/events.

 

[UncleRisto]

Like during the period I was in elementary school (grades E-4) I only remember.. 3? things/events.

I'm wondering if you're narrowing it down to way more concrete things than what I'm thinking of. Because I could tell you seven thousand unimportant little tidbits of "hey, I remember this happening and I know where it happened", but I definitely couldn't accurately tell you if I was 8 or 9 or 10.

 

[Foppberg]

I'm wondering if you're narrowing it down to way more concrete things than what I'm thinking of. Because I could tell you seven thousand unimportant little tidbits of "hey, I remember this happening and I know where it happened", but I definitely couldn't accurately tell you if I was 8 or 9 or 10.

I'm thinking more like big events, but anything I can possibly remember still isn't that high. Before grade 5 is extremely foggy.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I doubt I could list 10 memories prior to age 7/8. I just took about 2 minutes to really think about it to make sure I wasn't lying before I hit enter and I could only come up with 4 so I really mean it lol.

 

[McMetal]

My earliest memory is from when I lived in California, so no later than age 3 or 4. I remember all kinds of things from elementary school and that time, I'm kind if surprised everybody else doesn't have similar memories.

 

[UncleRisto]

You know how little kids come up with names for different play activities? I still remember names of the things we used to play at five with a friend of mine. I also remember playing Crash Team Racing in my brother's room with a friend when I was five, I remember the mat I was sitting on. I remember my brother rage quitting NHL 98 this one time; I remember accidentally trading Ray Bourque off my brothers' NHL 2000 Avs team. I remember an instance where "Stan" by Eminem played in the background while my brother played Gran Turismo 2, driving the Suzuki, but nothing else about this particular day, or when it was...

These are the kind of little memories I have hundreds of. I also have several... engrams I think is the word, to embarrassing late 90's, early 2000's music I heard on the radio.

One of the play activities was called Crazy Cooks. I'd assume ketchup was relevant to it.