OT: The Avalounge but every time someone posts the quality declines

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Ok...I've seen and have been a fan of most Star Wars movies since 1978 (I was too young for my folks to take me to see it in a theater, so they waited until it hit a drive-in.) Helpful hint for all you new parents...nobody wants your kids in a theater. Keep them at home.
That being said, Kathleen Kennedy is absolutely correct...If they have a great story, it could work. However, if they try to create a story strictly about a woman it will fail. Simply because it is forced and not natural. There is nothing wrong a movie that doesn't have a male lead. But seriously, outside of porn, I've enjoyed Steel Magnolias, I've always had a think for Sally Field, Dolly Parton and Daryl Hannah.
Some of my favourite shows are ones with strong female leads, but Rey is a complete Mary-Sue. She has never once carried or controlled a lightsaber, but yet she's able to go toe-to-toe with Kylo Ren who was ****ing TRAINED in lightsaber combat by Luke ****ing Skywalker (yet he still loses in The Farce Awakens). I don't think a lot of Star Wars fans care about who's the lead and if they do that is sort of sexist in my opinion.

However, you're alienating a huge part of your community, which makes you money by singling out a specific sex and say they don't matter when 90% of sci-fi fans are actually dudes. How about this, how about you make a good movie not filled with Mary-Sues', deus ex machina plot holes, bombs where the laws of gravity are non existent, Leia who has more force powers than Samuel L. Jackson, random acts of saving CGI animals nobody gives a flying **** about, more kamikaze tactics which should've been used in like Episode I to prevent any uprising, and completely and utterly useless characters such as Finn, Snoke, and Rose along with the metallic stormtrooper which randomly dies. Holy ****, don't even get me started by JJ Abrams completely useless first film (which I prefer BTW) where they killed off an ENTIRE planet of the bad guys, but yet the Rebels are still on the run and in hiding? Like WTF? No, seriously what the ****?

The Last Jedi still sucked as a movie and why Kennedy needs to be 66'd. Not because she said stupid and controversial comments about dudes, but because she sucks as a president and has no experience in the sci-fi realm. For as much as I hate them killing Snoke without a single backstory, what should've happened is Rey joining Kylo to the darkside and having Finn and Jedi ghost Skywalker eventually convince her throughout Episode IX . Leading up to having the final battle between them being an absolute epic lightsaber fight where one doesn't need the "highground".

I don't know if you ever played Knights of the Old Republic ET, but that game is the best Star Wars game ever made due to the plot twists and constant fighting into temptation. You have Revan who goes from a Sith to a Jedi and your lover who you need to save from the dark side, it actually touches upon that Jedi should be allowed to love. We've never seen this sort of stuff happen in the Star Wars universe and it should have been piggybacked in The Last Jedi to create a new dynamic approach. But it doesn't, it's like every single episode of The Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burgers, and those type of shows where every single plot twist has an anti-plot twist so the show never goes anywhere except to have standalone episodes.

/nerd rant over
 

UncleRisto

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Oh, how fitting. There's a 1980's themed student party later this month. I'm 100% dressing up as the preppiest f***ing asshole.

If only I could take my dad's car and drive it drunk to finish off the costume.
 

hockeyfish

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/nerd rant over

I can't disagree with any of this. I've been a long time Star Wars fan, but I know this re-boot has been a total failure. The 1st was just a boring re-hash of old plot lines, but it was at least moderately well written and produced. The 2nd one pretty much felt like the movie version of a rambling facebook post by a far right wing conspiracy nut full of typos, run on sentences, totally factual errors and some #murica. It was a totally terrible movie.

Also, it's 86'd, not 66'd.
 

McMetal

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I enjoyed both the new Star Wars movies. Last Jedi had some real flaws, but it was visually gorgeous and had a great message that I loved. TFW was just flat-out fun, I think the filmmakers needed to make references to the original movies in order to bridge the gap between old and new. Last Jedi, despite the tonal missteps, at least took the series in a new direction both story wise and in narrative structure.

After watching those two, I find I can barely even watch the prequels anymore. Attack of the Clones in particular is just irredeemably bad. At least the other two had awesome longlightsaber fights to make the characters stop talking for a while.
 

McMetal

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I can't get over the idea of a retriever cleaning up a blind guy and F'ing off. It brings me endless joy.

"**** this, I'll never have to work again."

My golden is way too much of a spaz to be trained to do that. It's not that he isn't smart (although he's not exactly going to get a Harvard scholarship), he just would run off to go chase a squirrel and leave the money blowing in the street.
 

UncleRisto

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100 lbs down now, mofos.
Awesome!

I didn't realize how time consuming bulking was since I hadn't been on an actual diet. Like, you cannot wait for instant gratification in the slightest. After a little over a week, there is basically no noticeable change in my weight, and that's exactly what I want too, since it means I'm not just gaining a bunch of fat. But eating "clean" and high protein, it takes a lot more effort cooking and eating the food I do every day, than it did before. I've found calorie and macro counting immensely helpful, as you pretty much never want to mark down a thousand calories on some sugary treats. I've had pizza once, and no sweet treats whatsoever. And I feel like my diet's getting stricter as I go, don't have to worry about breaking down either, since I'm seemingly always eating. Also, "having to" reach a calorie amount has helped me a lot with sticking to a semi-stable meal cycle. Bench press already went up too.
 

UncleRisto

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My golden is way too much of a spaz to be trained to do that. It's not that he isn't smart (although he's not exactly going to get a Harvard scholarship), he just would run off to go chase a squirrel and leave the money blowing in the street.
Don't they have to type in a passcode? That's some Planet of the Apes shit.
 

agentblack

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Some of my favourite shows are ones with strong female leads, but Rey is a complete Mary-Sue. She has never once carried or controlled a lightsaber, but yet she's able to go toe-to-toe with Kylo Ren who was ****ing TRAINED in lightsaber combat by Luke ****ing Skywalker (yet he still loses in The Farce Awakens). I don't think a lot of Star Wars fans care about who's the lead and if they do that is sort of sexist in my opinion.

However, you're alienating a huge part of your community, which makes you money by singling out a specific sex and say they don't matter when 90% of sci-fi fans are actually dudes. How about this, how about you make a good movie not filled with Mary-Sues', deus ex machina plot holes, bombs where the laws of gravity are non existent, Leia who has more force powers than Samuel L. Jackson, random acts of saving CGI animals nobody gives a flying **** about, more kamikaze tactics which should've been used in like Episode I to prevent any uprising, and completely and utterly useless characters such as Finn, Snoke, and Rose along with the metallic stormtrooper which randomly dies. Holy ****, don't even get me started by JJ Abrams completely useless first film (which I prefer BTW) where they killed off an ENTIRE planet of the bad guys, but yet the Rebels are still on the run and in hiding? Like WTF? No, seriously what the ****?

The Last Jedi still sucked as a movie and why Kennedy needs to be 66'd. Not because she said stupid and controversial comments about dudes, but because she sucks as a president and has no experience in the sci-fi realm. For as much as I hate them killing Snoke without a single backstory, what should've happened is Rey joining Kylo to the darkside and having Finn and Jedi ghost Skywalker eventually convince her throughout Episode IX . Leading up to having the final battle between them being an absolute epic lightsaber fight where one doesn't need the "highground".

I don't know if you ever played Knights of the Old Republic ET, but that game is the best Star Wars game ever made due to the plot twists and constant fighting into temptation. You have Revan who goes from a Sith to a Jedi and your lover who you need to save from the dark side, it actually touches upon that Jedi should be allowed to love. We've never seen this sort of stuff happen in the Star Wars universe and it should have been piggybacked in The Last Jedi to create a new dynamic approach. But it doesn't, it's like every single episode of The Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burgers, and those type of shows where every single plot twist has an anti-plot twist so the show never goes anywhere except to have standalone episodes.

/nerd rant over

This was glorious. And while I enjoyed TLJ purely from a movie going experience after some time to think about it, I agree with a lot of the points the SW fans bring up. Now I don’t really care that much about SW I’m an Xmen baby so I understand the frustration and anger when some mega Corp is just mishandling your baby.
I knew there were things about the umm diversity (if you want to call it that) or representation that bothered me but I couldn’t put it to words but you def summed some of it for me. I’ll just add that it should have been Ackbar
 

Bubba Thudd

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We're not clowns!

I kept the group photo we all took earlier this year...

I put an arrow pointing at you...

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JWK

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Just got 4 more triple melt burritos.

Not as good as the 5 layer burrito but still good
 
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