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BruinLVGA
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Tampa 718 pts%, Bruins 704............ Toronto 623. One of these is not like the others...
And about the ole "old team" chestnut, here:
Cotton
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Boston lost depth mostly, still rolled Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, McAvoy, Chara. You tried this excuse when Boston dropped 2 to Toronto.
BayStreetBully
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I didn’t even mention who amongst the Big 3 was the old team, but the fact you get so defensive over it makes evident we both knew who I was referring to.
It’s clear to both of us that Boston is the old team in the Big 3, and it’s clear that old teams will regress.
Minor differences in regular season points won't mean anything once the playoffs come. Home-ice is nice but doesn't guarantee anything.
Boston and Toronto are both having great seasons and are playing well of late. As a Leafs fan Boston are going to be a tough likely match-up in the first round but either team could come out on top.
Seems like some Bruins fans are ready to hand the team the cup because of the regular season they are having (Leafs are having a great regular season too). Should be reminded of how often the Capitals win the President's Trophy and get bounced early.
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bearcountry17
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There are 22 man games lost from those guys you just listed. So no, not just depth.
The Bruins HAVE had a lot of injuries but how many of them have actually been especially significant ones?
Krejci missing 18 games, sure. Backes missing 17, sure. Marchand missing 8, definitely. (I am not counting the 5 he was suspended for)
Beyond that though, Boston's best players have all been reasonably healthy.
Krug has played 50 of 54.
McAvoy has played 50 of 54.
Chara has played all 54.
Bergeron has played 49 of 54.
Pastrnak has played all 54.
Carlo has played all 54.
It's not at all unfair to say your depth has been hit harder than your best players.
Krejci missing 18 games, sure. Backes missing 17, sure. Marchand missing 8, definitely. (I am not counting the 5 he was suspended for)
Beyond that though, Boston's best players have all been reasonably healthy.
Krug has played 50 of 54.
McAvoy has played 50 of 54.
Chara has played all 54.
Bergeron has played 49 of 54.
Pastrnak has played all 54.
Carlo has played all 54.
It's not at all unfair to say your depth has been hit harder than your best players.
Cotton
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I think it’s more just this guy, I think most Bruins fans are reasonable and rational enough to admit both teams are on the same tier with Boston being better. This guy I think fits your description.
Give them a break they haven't won a round in 14 years. Of course they have severe validation necessity tendencies.
/S
BruinLVGA
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No such team presented. This is a projection from your own self.
What has been said, it's that the Bruins have performed so far at an elite level league-wise, while the Leafs have been having a very good season, but a notch below Boston.
To this, the usual suspects get offended and rage about it.
BruinLVGA
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There were stretches where combinations of bergeron, krejci, Backes, Marchand, McAvoy etc. Were all out together, but the team still put up points. Are you saying that the bruins ability to win despite injury is somehow invalid?
If anything I think it shows how deep their forward group is, particularly the top 9.
I'm not saying Boston is old. They've got several young players who are core guys, however, average age charts imo are misleading. I mean, they're accurate, but when people talk about how young the Leafs are, it's not because their average age on their roster is like 27 years old. It's because their core players are mostly 19-21.
Hey Boooins fan, can you compile the average age of each teams core. Or top 5 scorers plus #1G? I think that's a much more accurate depiction of youth instead of overall team age.
LOL, where did I come even remotely close to saying that?
I'm just saying the top 4 defensemen, and their top forwards have been mostly healthy. I'm not discounting how hard it still is to win when your lines 2-4 are negatively impacted by injuries.
You are harping on for 4 pages about how great the Bruins are. We can all look at the standings. The Bruins sit 2nd in the league standings and the Leafs sit 6th. The Bruins are having a great season.
Do you want a trophy that says the Bruins are in a tier of the top 2 teams in the NHL as of Feb. 12, 2018?
BruinLVGA
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Oh, it's clear who you thought it was. It was another of the common digs from the usual suspects (seen it many times, months ago), but most of them learned that it wasn't true and stopped using it. I just thought that you were the last one not to know the truth and I updated you.
It's clear that our retool on the fly was very successful, our prospects pool is stocked and the future is bright.
That gave one heck of a jolt in the hopes of you guys to be better than us and it shows by how angry you guys get when a number confirming this situation gets posted. Not my fault that Boston is better than you and even way more than last year.
Only Marchand, krejci, bergeron, Backes, McAvoy, Krug all missed time. Krug started the year with his jaw hanging off. Injuries to key players don't only count when they happen to Toronto.
Toronto is #3 in the most top heavy division in the NHL, nothing to be ashamed of.
BayStreetBully
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If I were a Bruins fan, I would embrace my team’s identity: good and old. That’s not a bad thing. You have veteran experience and leadership for a playoff run, as long as you don’t run out of steam first by playing too many 6-7 game series.
Yeah, you might not be contending after this year once Chara and co. drop off, but you have just as good a chance to contend this year as the other Big 3 Atlantic teams.
Where did I ever say injuries only count when they happen to Toronto? Also, I posted the numbers in my post for how many games all those players missed. I'm well aware.
The fact of the matter is though YOUR most key players haven't missed any more time than many of other teams (like Toronto). It's your line 2-4 players, and depth defense that have been getting hurt mostly. I'm not taking away from how hard that can be to overcome either. I'm just stating the facts.
And I'm not ashamed of the Leafs positioning at all. I think if anything people are somewhat sleeping on us though when you read the comments made about us.
