The Athletic - NHL awards watch: Leon Draisaitl leads a fascinating MVP field

[10YearsHaveGone]

NHL awards watch: Leon Draisaitl leads a fascinating MVP field

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[daver]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

 

[amikaro]

Surprised about missing Hischier for Selke talks ...

 

[10YearsHaveGone]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

We get it, you don't like the Oilers.

 

[Toby91ca]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

Well, it's not a real leaderboard for Hart for one thing. The Hart winner isn't going to come from the guy that leads in those numbers.

No one is putting Makar ahead of MacKinnon in the Hart race either. I shouldn't say no one, but from the games I've watched, it's obvious who the MVP is....I haven't watched 80+% of their games or anything, but when I ask that question to someone I know that watches 100% of their games.....answer was MacKinnon without any hesitation at all.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

It's literally sorted by their rating systems which are statistic-based. It's not very hard to "fathom" when you just read the chart labels

 

[PainForShane]

Randomly did a deep dive into some of the underlying stats in the last few days, Kaprizov and Werenski are having extremely strong years statistically. Don't watch either of them much but happy they're both getting recognized

 

[Mr Kot]

Spoiler

Makar above Hughes for Norris?

 

[EveryDay]

Hutson 4th in Calder? That's a take.....

 

[ijuka]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

Let me explain:

It's because McDavid has a net rating of +12.3 and Kucherov has a net rating of +11.8.

Glad to help.

 

[DJJones]

Wolfs rating made me laugh.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Spoiler

Makar above Hughes for Norris?

Or Hart for that matter. I don't see it.

 

[DJJones]

Hard to fathom why Kucherov is behind McDavid when their stats are the same and he doesn't have the Hart favourite on his team.

Did you even look at the numbers?

 

[Reality Czech]

It's literally sorted by their rating systems which are statistic-based. It's not very hard to "fathom" when you just read the chart labels

It's just one person's opinion based on their own made up system of numbers

 

[Muffin]

Well, it's not a real leaderboard for Hart for one thing. The Hart winner isn't going to come from the guy that leads in those numbers.

No one is putting Makar ahead of MacKinnon in the Hart race either. I shouldn't say no one, but from the games I've watched, it's obvious who the MVP is....I haven't watched 80+% of their games or anything, but when I ask that question to someone I know that watches 100% of their games.....answer was MacKinnon without any hesitation at all.

Makar is the more consistent player. MacKinnon when he's on can definitely take over games but Makar is the most consistent performer.

 

[daver]

Did you even look at the numbers?

Have you seen how Hart voting usually goes. Players with superstar teammates finish below what their numbers might indicate due to the "valuable to their team" element.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

It's just one person's opinion based on their own made up system of numbers

Sure, I mean that's what every statistical model is, of course.

But I seriously doubt he's putting a thumb on the scale just to pump up McDavid and give Kucherov the finger lol. And it's a half point difference lolol

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

Helly should be the Hart fav at this point.

 

[Toby91ca]

Makar is the more consistent player. MacKinnon when he's on can definitely take over games but Makar is the most consistent performer.

Agree to disagree on this one.....

 

[TheBeerNerd]

Well that's not the Devil I expected to be on the Selke list.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Hell of a Norris field this year

 

[eojsmada]

Love it when a narrative requires new stats that are random numbers that somehow always wind up fitting exactly what the narrative requires of it.

 

[avsfan9]

Canucks fans about to lose their goddamn minds……

 

[Regal]

Spoiler

Makar above Hughes for Norris?

A lot gets made of Makar’s numbers away from MacKinnon being weaker while Hughes’ numbers with anyone are great, but Makar’s overall numbers are still very strong. Not surprised a stat for total value on the year would have him ahead, especially with Hughes’ missed games.

 

[RRhoads]

Why is Shesterkin so high?