DavidBL
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If he's still a 60 pt player by his next contract he won't have the leverage to ask for top c money. That's pretty simple economics.
Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."
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FiveTacos
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It's always weird to me that some fans are terrified of trading for guys in the "good but not there yet" types because of having to potentially pay a young guy in a few years. If he really merits 10m+, that means he's broken out and you should be happy.
Also if you try to trade for a guy AFTER he breaks out as a 1c the cost is astronomically higher ... You sure as hell ain't getting him for a pick in the 6-10 range plus a nice prospect. You want a sure thing to be worth a huge contract, who's 22 or younger? Guess what, that's a guy unlikely to be available at all.
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viceroy
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So you're saying that if Hutson turns out as good as Quinn we should trade him for Zegras? I'd rather have a Quinn then a Zegras personally myself.
Not much. He's as sound defensively as ever and no injuries, he's our iron man right now actually. Whereas Zegras has attempted to tweak his play defensively and has gotten injured which seems to have greatly affected his offensive numbers this season.
*sigh* You still don't get how a message board works do you? You say stuff and sometimes people reply to you or query you in return. In this situation you just decided to take a potshot at the Habs' GM like if you were on a Leafs' board or something. All I did was ask you what you were basing your low opinion of Hughes. The sound of a horn is not a replacement for a discussion amigo. Next time just type "Reasons" and I'll get the gist of your thought process.
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What are the biggest needs for the Ducks?
Without reading through 38 pages but what would be the ask for Zegras from Montreal?
Without reading through 38 pages but what would be the ask for Zegras from Montreal?
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A 25-26 year old goalie who will go on to have a long career with 0.915 save percentage
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A big under-30 forward guaranteed to hit 35 goals per year at least once in the next 8 years
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A second round pick
Translation: Halak, Ryder and a 2nd.
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The biggest needs for the Ducks right now are young players in the 19-24 age group who project as top line players, and fit in with the current core. If we dealt Z, we'd need someone who can take his place in the rebuild. Aside from forwards, Ducks need a young top pairing potential RHD. Because the top of this year's draft is stacked with high end D prospects, if they don't get Celebrini there's a feeling they'll grab that future top pairing D in the first 5-7 picks.
Offensive forwards and top pair RHD. Ducks are DEEP on the left side, but Luneau is our only RHD that might be a top pair guy (more likely second pair)
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You should probably stick to your own teams’ needs, because what you listed is likely not what they’d be looking for in return for Zegras.
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ole ole
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Pierre LeBrun went on SportCentre last night and talked about Trevor Zegras.
He said the Ducks have listened on calls from 4-5 teams, one of which being the Montreal Canadiens. However, they are not actively trying to move him at this time like some other analysts have said previously.
So there you have it, the underrated Zegras is not on the block and Frank Seravalli is not a trusted source when it comes to rumors.
He said the Ducks have listened on calls from 4-5 teams, one of which being the Montreal Canadiens. However, they are not actively trying to move him at this time like some other analysts have said previously.
So there you have it, the underrated Zegras is not on the block and Frank Seravalli is not a trusted source when it comes to rumors.
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Lol I mean I felt like that was already discussed on page 1 somewhere
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Halak, Ryder, and a 2nd is an old meme from when Montreal fans were offering that package up for literally any player who might ever conceivably be moved.
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The article linked in the OP very clearly says that the initial source for all this (Dreger) very clearly states that the Ducks were not shopping Zegras. Multiple posters then said that the people pushing the narrative of Zegras being available were fishing for clicks. The OP didn’t bother to post that part of the article, but did provide the link where it’s stated.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: Earlier this week, TSN’s Darren Dreger said the Ducks weren’t shopping Zegras and were working with him to improve his overall game. That was before Zegras’ latest injury.
Dreger also mentioned that this situation could be worth monitoring as it could come to a head during the summer. Given how things have gone for Zegras, it wouldn’t be surprising if Verbeek will be willing to entertain offers for an offseason deal.
In other words - this entire thread is just chasing pundits pushing clickbait, and it’s all there in the OP, for anyone willing to do even the minimal amount of research on the topic.
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Yeah, I saw that after he edited his post to add that last line in there. He originally didn’t have that so it didn’t make much sense at face value.
A young and high octane, creative offensive players... just like Zegras, lol. So we don't have close to any incentive in trading him, despite what some wannabe reporters are brewing up for clickbait.
We need a shooter, ideally a right handed one who is responsible defensively. But we're not looking to throw TZ to something like this.
HabsAddict
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Then signs a 1 year and goes for FA were he will get someone to bite. Meanwhile the team that traded for him is looking stupid.
That will be calculated in any GMs offer.
HabsAddict
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So are we. So is every team that is rebuilding.
What we have is an abundance of LHDs and high picks. They are on the line for projected top 6. Better yet, already in the NHL and showing who they are.
FiveTacos
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I believe there would be 2 more years.
But there you have it ... Every trade degenerates into "but he'll be UFA in such and such year." Well then you might as well target talented youngsters who signed 8 year deals, or trade for ELC players.
Drysdale was in the same boat as Zegras (same length, same UFA year) yet returned a top prospect. So why would Zegras be worth LESS?
Nico Cauzuki
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Its the GMs job to say that to not affect his value but i do think hes available and traded this offseason wish it was Montreal i believe we have some nice pieces but some other team will beat our offer
HabsAddict
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As a GM...
You trade for Zegras, he does great and signs for a reasonable long term contract.
You trade for Zegras, he does great and wants to be paid top dollar or he's heading for UFA.
The players previous negotiation will not be ignored.
The value will be different and it depends on the risk appetite of the GM. I'm not saying that the risk makes him valueless, just somewhat lower.
FiveTacos
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If he does great, then the team that has him (Ducks or otherwise) probably will gladly pay him top dollar. But isn't that a better problem than trading for a guy who you know is less likely to merit a big deal because he just doesn't have as much upside? Go after Kakko if that's what you want. Some of the proposals that won't get you near Zegras might be enough for KK.
