I generally agree with your outlook but here is a counterargument...with Carlsson and McTavish at 1/2C going forward, Zegras isn't going to get to showcase himself as a center in Anaheim any time soon. The real question is whether or not Zegras has a spot in the Anaheim top six at all. If not, a trade could come sooner than later.
Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."
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Mickey Marner
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Should wait and sell high. He’ll rebound and become desirable, no need to force a trade while his stock is low.
BLNY
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I don't believe "slumping market" was a dig at his struggles, but more in relation to his one dimensional game selling tickets in a market where the team is struggling because he would be an attraction.
If he can't make it in Anaheim's top 6 as a 2nd line winger, what top 6's would he make it in? Chicago? San Jose? The list ain't much longer than that
Does not get moved to make a deal for the sake of making a deal.
Ana fortunate to have 1-2 punch he can be moved if enuf on the table.
His value should be highest now, b'c most term on current deal; less term like next yr.
Ana can't use him now w/broken leg.
Rs can send sufficient F etc prospects and hope he mends for end of yr.
Revised prop on this when I can, prob later in the wk
As a mentioned earlier, if he can transition successfully to LW then he can play in a top 6 in Anaheim. But if he is really just a center then Anaheim is exactly the wrong place for him.
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Personally I think he is not good defensively so I think he would be better as a wing but it hasn’t translated this year. Injuries have prevented us from a good training camp and being to experiment with lines.
Right now he has looked like the odd duck, but it’s not like everyone else is killing.
Other than Mactavish carlsson mintkuyov and possibly vatrano, everyone should be available for the right “hockey” trade.
I think our number 1 need is to find an elite 2 way defenseman. I’d move zegras for the right person that fits that mold.
Right now he has looked like the odd duck, but it’s not like everyone else is killing.
Other than Mactavish carlsson mintkuyov and possibly vatrano, everyone should be available for the right “hockey” trade.
I think our number 1 need is to find an elite 2 way defenseman. I’d move zegras for the right person that fits that mold.
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Oh that’s absolutely part of what I meant. Someone suggesting he would have more value to a team that could use him as a sideshow because they would sell more tickets. Instead of all teams being interested because he’s an exciting and gifted young offensive player that could help many teams that don’t have enough centers.
The concept that Zegras is somehow unique and in a separate category of defensively poor is an interesting phenomenon to watch. Pretty much all young offensively minded high skill players need to be better defensively. The idea that Zegras is beyond help this way and truly “one dimensional” is comical. Players mature. He’ll get there just fine like any other player would.
I’d like to see him get popped in the face a couple of times first, but I know he’d be great as a potential 2C for the Canes (if they had a spot, they don’t). He plays on a young team with minimal expectations with other young guys. They’re having fun playing. This year they’re trying to be more serious and he has to make adjustments. That’s not weird.
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AirGut
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Can a Ducks fan explain to me why it took until October for Zegras to sign only a 3-year extension when Anaheim had brink trucks of money ready to offload in their young elite "immovable" asset?
That alone was all I needed to see that he doesn't want to be on that team for longer than he has to be. What don't people understand? The rift between Zegras/Verbeek already was opened and where there is smoke there's fire. You think a guy like Pat Verbeek has any sort of respect for Trevor's overall game? I see what he's building in Anaheim and trust me, it doesn't include a mosquito player like Zegras. This isn't Jack Hughes we're talking about. They're going to be a monster team come playoff time once they add another big rig winger.
That alone was all I needed to see that he doesn't want to be on that team for longer than he has to be. What don't people understand? The rift between Zegras/Verbeek already was opened and where there is smoke there's fire. You think a guy like Pat Verbeek has any sort of respect for Trevor's overall game? I see what he's building in Anaheim and trust me, it doesn't include a mosquito player like Zegras. This isn't Jack Hughes we're talking about. They're going to be a monster team come playoff time once they add another big rig winger.
Pavels Dog
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Makes sense. He’s not very good player but his flashiness will give him value.
bleedgreen
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How does a not very good player get 60 plus pts on a mediocre to flat out bad team?
viceroy
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Zegras don't get you Smith
So you think he's not a Pat Verbeek type player but he'd be a Cam Neely type?
oceanchild
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Wait, hold on… are you suggesting that Chicago would have to add a first with Bedard to get Carlsson?
oceanchild
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This is the way in this board, if a player has a poor season then they are worth nothing, unless they are on your team then they are worth whatever the peak value once was. Also, when players improve they are held to the old standard of value but when they decline it should be ignored. Also, picks are worth more than allstars … etc etc.
I personally don’t think he is the type of player you win with and is a good player on a bad team type of guy. Not sure what value he has, but wouldn’t want to pay much for him. This has nothing to do with his stats this year, just how I view the player.
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I feel like if smith becomes as good as zegras it’s prob a win
The “you don’t win with him mentality” has basically no proof, just something people that don’t like him say
oceanchild
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Bad teams have players that do well and then go to good teams and don’t hold those type of numbers. It’s because they don’t have the opportunities on the PP and such as the team has better options or they get held accountable for poor decisions and see less ice time. It’s not uncommon. Not saying this is the case with Zegras, just players on bad teams that excel and then can’t replicate.
I look forward to him being a core player on a great team and being reminded of this comment. You have less proof that he is a winner than I do that he isn’t.
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Huh. Offensively, he's the best player we've had in a long while. Defensively, he's improved a lot this year.
With Carlsson, McTavish, Cutter, etc. there's more than enough room for a player like Zegras even if he's not a "Verbeek" style player.
He's better at center than LW. Carlsson, McTavish, Zegras would make for a great 1-2-3 down the middle.
IMO/YMMV.
With Carlsson, McTavish, Cutter, etc. there's more than enough room for a player like Zegras even if he's not a "Verbeek" style player.
He's better at center than LW. Carlsson, McTavish, Zegras would make for a great 1-2-3 down the middle.
IMO/YMMV.
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I didn’t claim him to be a winner, all I said was people claiming you can’t win with him on the roster are basing it off literally nothing.
I can't speak for all Sharks fans but I think I would be willing to offer Will Smith to acquire Zegras. It seems to me that Smith is a similar player and is currently on a similar trajectory but that Zegras is further along his trajectory and so he has less risk than Smith while having similar upside. That being said I'd be surprised in the Sharks management agreed with me and if the Sharks and Ducks were willing to make such a big trade in their own division.
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this is starting to feel a lot like the debrincat rumors out of ottawa situation. a bunch of fans claiming that it will never happen and if it does happen the cost will be through the roof. more smoke means even more vehement denial. and then when it does happen for a lot less than they claimed it would, the same people will start talking about how he isn't that good anyway.
id tread carefully if I were an anaheim fan, the internet has a long memory
id tread carefully if I were an anaheim fan, the internet has a long memory
dracom
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it's not like that situation at all. literally zero rumors about it, then Drysdale gets moved and now all of a sudden people are saying Zegras is gonna be moved. it's just a bunch of people making a guess because both Dry and Z held out on their contracts. they just wanna ignore the fact we could only move on from Drysdale was because we had other defensive prospects with a similar skillset. not the case with Zegras.
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