The Armchair GM Thread - Part XXXIII

[crazyforhockey]

alfredsson would look good with the sedins

 

[JuniorNelson]

alfredsson would look good with the sedins

Ottawa has to be going into seller mode! I'd like to nab Latendresse, when he gets back.

 

[StringerBell]

alfredsson would look good with the sedins

Burrows would still look better.

 

[Tiranis]

Alfredsson would look good on any line, really. Unfortunately I think it would take an overpayment.

 

[PG Canuck]

alfredsson would look good with the sedins

Would cost too much and wouldn't be worth half a season of Alfredsson, plus as already noted above, Burrows would look better IMO.

 

[CpatainCanuck]

alfredsson would look good with the sedins

Kind of like the Sundin situation? I don't see it happening.

 

[PG Canuck]

Kind of like the Sundin situation? I don't see it happening.

How funny would it be to have Sundin and Alfredsson retire as Canucks, though?

 

[me2]

Alfredsson would look good on any line, really. Unfortunately I think it would take an overpayment.

not a gillis buy either. He hates rentals and would rather spend up big on guys he gets a few years out of.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

I'd rather have Clowe than Alfredsson. This team has enough skill and needs one or two big gritty bodies if it's going to compete in the post season. Clowe would be excellent bouncing around the line-up and would add another power forward with Kassian taking pressure off the kid.

 

[Addison Rae]

Clowe would be so ideal to this team.

 

[timw33]

Clowe would be so ideal to this team.

Clowe on Kesler's wing would be a great fit.

 

[Addison Rae]

Clowe on Kesler's wing would be a great fit.

*drools*

 

[Bleach Clean]

Come on Bleach....

Hahaha you no like?

Don't knock it Stringer. Watch it happen. Watch the magic actually happen. lol

 

[PRNuck]

I propose any trade with the Sens includes a hug going the other way. That team needs a hug pretty bad.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Alfredson>Clowe.

Alfie puts us over the top, Clowe not so much.

 

[PRNuck]

Alfredson>Clowe.

Alfie puts us over the top, Clowe not so much.

I'm in this camp too actually. But I'm not sure if I want to lose any of the pieces we'd have to lose to get him and to make cap space for him.

 

[Jay Cee]

Ottawa is on a 3 game winning streak and desperately needs playoff revenue, which is why they have gone with the model they have adopted (no full rebuild). Couple that with the fact that Alfredsson probably doesn't wanna leave after spending his whole career in Ottawa and that probably means we have no chance at all in getting him.

 

[Alflives*]

Ottawa is on a 3 game winning streak and desperately needs playoff revenue, which is why they have gone with the model they have adopted (no full rebuild). Couple that with the fact that Alfredsson probably doesn't wanna leave after spending his whole career in Ottawa and that probably means we have no chance at all in getting him.

Chris Neal is the player on Ottawa that would best serve the Canucks current roster.

 

[Jay Cee]

I agree and Murray has always showed little appetite to let him go

 

[dave babych returns]

Neither Alfredsson nor Clowe is going to be available.

That being said if there was a chance either would I'd make a pitch for Clowe simply because Daniel Alfredsson would cost an "offer me enough to trade away the face of the franchise" type of return.

Clowe would be great for this team, although San Jose needs to improve their team in the here and now to deal a player like that and I don't know what kind of deal gets us Clowe, makes them better and doesn't make us worse.

I thought the rumour was that they wanted to trade a defenseman to improve their forward group so I doubt there'd be a fit here.

 

[vector209]

I'd rather have Clowe than Alfredsson. This team has enough skill and needs one or two big gritty bodies if it's going to compete in the post season. Clowe would be excellent bouncing around the line-up and would add another power forward with Kassian taking pressure off the kid.

This is the kind of misguided thinking that's lead to rather anemic offensive production in the playoffs. This team has anything but enough skill.

Do people have short term memories here, or do they intentionally ignore the fact that apart from maybe 3 players, no one else can lift the pick off the ice when making a pass or a shot.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

This is the kind of misguided thinking that's lead to rather anemic offensive production in the playoffs. This team has anything but enough skill.

Do people have short term memories here, or do they intentionally ignore the fact that apart from maybe 3 players, no one else can lift the pick off the ice when making a pass or a shot.

This. x10000.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

This is the kind of misguided thinking that's lead to rather anemic offensive production in the playoffs. This team has anything but enough skill.

Do people have short term memories here, or do they intentionally ignore the fact that apart from maybe 3 players, no one else can lift the pick off the ice when making a pass or a shot.

We could always use another high skill player, specifically a sniper, but let's not pretend it's a catastrophe. We're not the Calgary Flames over here. There is definitely skill in this lineup.

 

[dave babych returns]

This is the kind of misguided thinking that's lead to rather anemic offensive production in the playoffs. This team has anything but enough skill.

Actually the Canucks have struggled mightily against teams that establish and dominate control of the space in front of their own goal.

This is because the Canucks don't have great size (Canucks forwards over 6'0 and over 200lbs who had more than 10 minutes per game last playoffs: 1).

Do people have short term memories here, or do they intentionally ignore the fact that apart from maybe 3 players, no one else can lift the pick off the ice when making a pass or a shot.

This is patently untrue (guys like Hansen and Raymond are clearly capable of this) but just to respond to the spirit of your argument - it would be great to have Patrick Sharp as our fifth-best forward but there are only one or two teams in the league with that kind of depth of high end skill and the Canucks simply aren't built that way.

Anyway all of this seems to presuppose that a player like Ryane Clowe doesn't possess skill, if you compare him to Alfredsson I don't think you're passing up a huge amount of ability.

Since 2009-10 (including that year) Alfredsson has been between 1st, 2nd or 3rd among Sens forwards in average ice time per game and has put up 25G, 65P per 82 games. Clowe has consistently been 5th or 6th among Sharks forwards in ice time over that stretch and has put up 20G 56P per 82 games.

 

[Alflives*]

This. x10000.

Interesting. I thought the team's lack of play-off scoring was due to their top forwards being too soft/small/weak. I understand that Burrows does nicely with the Sedins (during the regular season) but having a player like Kassian on the team, and not putting him with the Sedins right now, is not preparing for the future - playoffs. Plus, getting a Chris Neal or Ryan Clowe to play in the top 9 too would be helpful for the play-offs. Bringing in another soft player, will make no difference in the play-offs. The most pressing need, however, is a bigger D-man, who plays top minutes.