The Armchair GM Thread - Part XXXIII

[WetcoastOrca]

Grass is always greener.
We have Kesler when healthy, Raymond this year, Daniel, Booth and Burrows all with pretty good one timers. Bieksa, Edler, Garrison and somewhat Hamhuis all have good point shots. To me, the biggest issue is getting offensive contributions from our bottom 6 in the playoffs to take some of the heat off the top two lines. Maybe add a third liner who has size and can chip in with the odd goal. Anything else will cost us a roster player and just create a hole elsewhere.
Right now, out biggest probalem is defensive play, IMO. We need more of a team commitment to defence and need to improve our breakout out of our zone. I don't know how many goals we've given up when we had a chance to get out of our zone but turned the puck over at the blue line.

 

[Tiranis]

"One shot scorer" is this teams new buzz word? What happened to "dynamic powerforward"?

You do realize there are different people with different opinions on this board, right? I've been calling for that type of a player for 3 seasons now.

 

[Nuckles]

Grass is always greener.
We have Kesler when healthy, Raymond this year, Daniel, Booth ane Burrows all with pretty good one timers. Bieksa, Edler, Garrison and somewhat Hamhuis all have good point shots. To me, the biggest issue is getting offensive contributions from our bottom 6 in the playoffs to take some of the heat off the top two lines. Maybe add a third liner who has size and can chip in with the odd goal. Anything else will cost us a roster player and just create a hole elsewhere.
Right now, out biggest probalem is defensive play, IMO. We need more of a team commitment to defence and need to improve our breakout out of our zone. I don't know how many goal swe've given up when we had a chance to get out of our zone but turned the puck over at the blue line.

Bingo.
We have the pieces needed to be a very good team, but we're not playing at the top of our game right now.

Defensemen are making bad pinches/guys aren't covering the d-men when they pinch, the breakout is horrible at times, and sometimes we're just flat out sloppy in all 3 zones.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I actually think there are enough guys that can burry the puck on the forward lines now, we just need one more guy with a high playmaking IQ. Someone in the Daniel Briere mold would turn this team into a juggernaut.

 

[Nuckles]

I know a bunch of you guys want us to acquire a top 6 pure scoring sniper, but where would that kind of player fit in our lineup?
Kesler has become a player that will shoot the puck every chance he gets, even when a much better play would be to pass the puck.

 

[ahmon]

I actually think there are enough guys that can burry the puck on the forward lines now, we just need one more guy with a high playmaking IQ. Someone in the Daniel Briere mold would turn this team into a juggernaut.

lol, briere can pick corners and can bury the puck. All around offensive player.

Agreeing with you though a player like briere will help. The guy is freaking clutch come playoffs.

 

[dave babych returns]

I know a bunch of you guys want us to acquire a top 6 pure scoring sniper, but where would that kind of player fit in our lineup?
Kesler has become a player that will shoot the puck every chance he gets, even when a much better play would be to pass the puck.

Kind of funny to see people posting this stuff the night after he puts up 0 G 2 A..

I've said it for a long time, Kesler is never going to pick apart opposing defenses with elite vision and precision passing but he has the tools to enable his linemates to score goals. It's like people don't remember he had 50 assists one year (and each of his linemates had 25+ goals)..

 

[TruGr1t]

Leafs are probably going to trade JM Liles ... Always liked him, but we'd have to move Ballard or something to fit him in here. Apparently he plays the right side, which would be nice.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

I think there's enough guys (Booth, Kesler, Burrows in our Top 6) that can do it. I don't think adding Clowe will be a huge benefit especially since he has never been a great goal scorer. I think we have less one-shot options than we have big guys. Besides, I think the bigger problem is getting the puck to the net rather than the guys.

The Bruins for all their toughness had more dynamic, one-shot scorers than we do which is also how they scored a lot of their goals.

This is why it sucked to trade Grabner and Hodgson in successive years. Grabner especially scored many goals on TT (look at his YT highlights from 2011).

I'm happy with Kassian (so I'm not rehashing that debate), but that should have been an offseason deal.

Burrows is really the only guy that fits that "one-shot shooter" description on this team. Kesler has the skill but needs to work on accuracy and his decision making regarding when to shoot. Schroeder has a chance. He's crafty and should work on it every day. He could be a Marchand (minus the douchiness/pest part).

Also, I find our shooters hesitate too much. Everyone thinks they are a Sedin. AV should practice players rapid firing from the slot.

It's why Jensen is an important prospect for us.


When the playoffs start, so much clutching/grabbing/shot-blocking happens, you only get a handful of decent chances in any one game.

 

[MajorCanuck]

Would you guys be willing to trade kass to the oilers in exchange for one of their top 4? Their fans keep talking about how their top 6 is too small and they meed a skilled big body.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Leafs are probably going to trade JM Liles ... Always liked him, but we'd have to move Ballard or something to fit him in here. Apparently he plays the right side, which would be nice.

If Liles isn't getting time on a weaker defense corps in TOR, he's unlikely to get it here. They've regularly scratched Liles and Komisarek...

Would you guys be willing to trade kass to the oilers in exchange for one of their top 4? Their fans keep talking about how their top 6 is too small and they meed a skilled big body.

You mean big 4? I'd do it for Yakupov. Not sure about the others given the contracts, but I probably would there as well. However, VAN would then need that same element again. It's very difficult to find.

 

[arsmaster*]

Would you guys be willing to trade kass to the oilers in exchange for one of their top 4? Their fans keep talking about how their top 6 is too small and they meed a skilled big body.

No.

Eberle and Hall make waaaaaay to much moolah for what they bring.

Kassian-like players are near impossible to acquire.

And I imagine they'd want us to add 1st rounders to get Nuge or Yaks.

 

[Tiranis]

No.

Eberle and Hall make waaaaaay to much moolah for what they bring.

Kassian-like players are near impossible to acquire.

And I imagine they'd want us to add 1st rounders to get Nuge or Yaks.

I actually think Hall is their best player. I would take him. Doesn't fight but that's about the only thing he lacks.

Eberle is the only guy I wouldn't have any interest in.

 

[arsmaster*]

I actually think Hall is their best player. I would take him. Doesn't fight but that's about the only thing he lacks.

Eberle is the only guy I wouldn't have any interest in.

Eberle is the guy I would want if all things were equal.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

Eberle is the guy I would want if all things were equal.

Yup. Guy is clutch as anything.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Eberle is the only guy I wouldn't have any interest in.

. Great young star...yeah, no interest.

 

[mrmyheadhurts]

Of their big 4, Hall is the one I would have the least interest in.

 

[PRNuck]

Eberle is the guy I would want if all things were equal.

Make mine the Nuge if they haven't permanently wrecked him by rushing him into the league as a 160 lber.

 

[PRNuck]

Of their big 4, Hall is the one I would have the least interest in.

Samesies.

 

[Tiranis]

. Great young star...yeah, no interest.

He's just not worth the money. Hall is.

 

[vancityluongo]

Of their big 4, Hall is the one I would have the least interest in.

Definitely. The way I hear people here describing him, he sounds like a less defensively competent Kesler. (not that that is a bad thing in any way...just doesn't make any sense for this team)

Eberle would be incredible, but the cost for him would probably be Schneider +

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

He's just not worth the money. Hall is.

They both are IMO.

 

[Alflives*]

Definitely. The way I hear people here describing him, he sounds like a less defensively competent Kesler. (not that that is a bad thing in any way...just doesn't make any sense for this team)

Eberle would be incredible, but the cost for him would probably be Schneider +

Edmonton would be stupid to trade Eberle. However, an offer of Schneider and a top 4 D might peak their interest.

Then flip Eberle to Montreal for Subban. That is more the type of player the current Canuck's need.

 

[Verviticus]

He's just not worth the money. Hall is.

it's funny, hall vs eberle is the ultimate litmus test as to whether or not someone can properly value players

Yup. Guy is clutch as anything.

clutch isn't real, clutch doesn't exist, there is no such thing as clutch

Of their big 4, Hall is the one I would have the least interest in.

but hall is absolutely their best player, hands down. there is literally nobody in the league for whom the saying "he drives the bus" is more applicable

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

I actually think Hall is their best player. I would take him. Doesn't fight but that's about the only thing he lacks.

Eberle is the only guy I wouldn't have any interest in.

Hall's hockey sense isn't where I'd want it to be, but he's got the best physical tools of the bunch.

If you feel Hall can improve his hockey sense you go with him, but if you don't, you go for Eberle.