GDT: The All-In-One 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

[MIGs Dog]

Knies is out. Can't speculate what happened to him.

Oh yeah... awful quiet in Toronto all of a sudden.

 

[MIGs Dog]

I think the league looks at this. First hit ok, but then the body slam plus Knies being injured might draw a review.

 

[ck26]

Post-game meltdowns in the Leafs forum are good reading. Mind blowing how quickly fans turn on Matthews, Tavares, etc.

 

[MIGs Dog]

Post-game meltdowns in the Leafs forum are good reading. Mind blowing how quickly fans turn on Matthews, Tavares, etc.

Cats tried hard to blow it in the 3rd. Numerous defensive lapses. The Bob bailed them out.

 

[ck26]

Cats tried hard to blow it in the 3rd. Numerous defensive lapses. The Bob bailed them out.

Logic schmogic ... SUN BELT HOCKEY BAY-BEEEEE! Go Stars Go!

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

Road Ice Advantage is real.

 

[RemoAZ]

Leafs got out of the first round for the first time in how many decades? Their fans will have to be happy with surpassing that milestone.

 

[Hogan20]

Bob has been looking more and more like himself as of late. If he can keep playing this way the Cats have just a good a chance as anyone.

 

[Jamieh]

Leafs got out of the first round for the first time in how many decades? Their fans will have to be happy with surpassing that milestone.

Very odd so far, Leafs have won the games they should have lost and lost the games they had the edge in. I think many fans will be bothered by this series in that they could have won both games except for short periods of ineptitude. And it's hard not to question Stars when they get 20 shots and no goals while their turnovers have lead directly to goals against.

 

[TheLegend]

Knies is out. Can't speculate what happened to him.

Oh yeah... awful quiet in Toronto all of a sudden.

They may have played their last home game, that’s why.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

I envision a Cup series with Montreal as the 1st Canadian finalist since their last appearance v the Coyotes.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Is Matthews a $13m /AAV player?

 

[Jamieh]

Is Matthews a $13m /AAV player?

That's a really tough question to answer. He gets better each year and each playoff year so if this is his top I say no but if he continues this trajectory until UFA I say he will be. As an easy comparable he scores at about same regular season rate as Draisaitl but when the playoffs start Matthews isn't even in the same world as Draisaitl.

 

[ck26]

That's a really tough question to answer. He gets better each year and each playoff year so if this is his top I say no but if he continues this trajectory until UFA I say he will be. As an easy comparable he scores at about same regular season rate as Draisaitl but when the playoffs start Matthews isn't even in the same world as Draisaitl.

Toronto has played 8 playoff games this season and Matthews has gotten on the scoresheet in ... [checks notes] ... 8 of them.

 

[Jamieh]

Toronto has played 8 playoff games this season and Matthews has gotten on the scoresheet in ... [checks notes] ... 8 of them.

You have to watch the game rather than the sheet. And I said he gets better each year but reality is Matthews is not winning his match-up most nights but has scored more this year than others. And tonight was a great example where he got a point but ended up minus as a bad giveaway by him ended up in Leafs bet in bad start to 2nd.

He needs to improve on current play to be worth $13 million if you want to win. He is good enough to dominate but hasn't yet in post season.

 

[Jamieh]

FTR I would put Marner in same category, both want to be paid among League's best but coach spends half the night trying to get them matchups in playoffs. With their skill they should not be worried about any opponent.

 

[Jamieh]

Can the Coyotes sign this guy for his entertaining interviews??? Unfortunately an average goalie

 

[ck26]

You have to watch the game rather than the sheet. And I said he gets better each year but reality is Matthews is not winning his match-up most nights but has scored more this year than others. And tonight was a great example where he got a point but ended up minus as a bad giveaway by him ended up in Leafs bet in bad start to 2nd.

He needs to improve on current play to be worth $13 million if you want to win. He is good enough to dominate but hasn't yet in post season.

I watched the whole game except for part of the 3rd when I was eating dinner and talking on the phone, and I've just gone back and re-watched replays of the goals to make sure I'm not insane.

That wasn't Matthews's bad giveaway -- Marner made a stupid pass backwards, into traffic and into the center of the ice. Exact opposite of where a D zone breakout needs to go. I don't know why Marner did that, I think he was trying to be cute and maintain possession at all cost, and when he skated into a dead end, he didn't want to just chip it off the boards and out. End result was Matthews eyes down, receiving a puck on his backhand with a Panther in his face. Goes down as AM's turnover, but Marner hung him out to dry badly on that play.

On the 2nd goal, McCabe caught in possession and I don't know what the hell Nylander was doing. Even still, it wasn't a great shot by Barkov, and if Samsonov would have made a fairly routine save, the energy doesn't get sapped out of the building before everyone makes it back from the concourse.

I don't like "not a big game player" narratives in general, and that turnover was not AM's fault.

 

[Jamieh]

I watched the whole game except for part of the 3rd when I was eating dinner and talking on the phone, and I've just gone back and re-watched replays of the goals to make sure I'm not insane.

That wasn't Matthews's bad giveaway -- Marner made a stupid pass backwards, into traffic and into the center of the ice. Exact opposite of where a D zone breakout needs to go. I don't know why Marner did that, I think he was trying to be cute and maintain possession at all cost, and when he skated into a dead end, he didn't want to just chip it off the boards and out. End result was Matthews eyes down, receiving a puck on his backhand with a Panther in his face. Goes down as AM's turnover, but Marner hung him out to dry badly on that play.

On the 2nd goal, McCabe caught in possession and I don't know what the hell Nylander was doing. Even still, it wasn't a great shot by Barkov, and if Samsonov would have made a fairly routine save, the energy doesn't get sapped out of the building before everyone makes it back from the concourse.

I don't like "not a big game player" narratives in general, and that turnover was not AM's fault.

That was both of their turnover, they do that cute stuff way too much. I'm not sure how you can argue the big game player stuff when their line gets outplayed most nights for several seasons. Like I said he has grown this year but imo he needs to grow more to be worth $13 million. Even this year while the goals went in and they won round one I would hardly call it a great performance overall for any Leafs, they just happened to win when they usually don't in similar situation.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Can the Coyotes sign this guy for his entertaining interviews??? Unfortunately an average goalie

Been there done that. Plus Bryz was way smarter and funnier.

 

[Jakey53]

That's a really tough question to answer. He gets better each year and each playoff year so if this is his top I say no but if he continues this trajectory until UFA I say he will be. As an easy comparable he scores at about same regular season rate as Draisaitl but when the playoffs start Matthews isn't even in the same world as Draisaitl.

TO doesn't have McDavid feeding Matthews.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Been there done that. Plus Bryz was way smarter and funnier.

Bryz sure was fun! Definitely funny, definitely smart… maybe too smart, got his and got out… poor Philly

 

[Jamieh]

TO doesn't have McDavid feeding Matthews.

Marner is no slouch. Don't shift the blame, neither is getting it done.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Congratulations @AZviaNJ !

I thought this would be the year the Devils learned a few lessons during a 1st round defeat.... WRONG!

I suppose there's still some remnants of the excellence from the past floating around they ingested over the course of their 1st round win.....perhaps Marty B was in the ear of your goalie last night.

Big one tonight!

 

[TheLegend]

RIP Knies