Oh, i looked at his "value" where EP edged him unless i was mistaken.
Marner is definitely the big one but i'm a fan of Dvorak too
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Oh, i looked at his "value" where EP edged him unless i was mistaken.
Marner is definitely the big one but i'm a fan of Dvorak too
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I mean, I get that the cap is growing, but these prices for middle-pairing d-men are getting out of hand...
Smith at 4/4.35 or Franson at 1/.85?
So, like with Skjei, Calgary better hope that Hanifin becomes a legit 2nd pairing guy here. He's progressing, so we'll see.
Smith at 4/4.35 or Franson at 1/.85?
So, like with Skjei, Calgary better hope that Hanifin becomes a legit 2nd pairing guy here. He's progressing, so we'll see.
Mac n Gs
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Ryan Stimson has two fantastic articles in the Athletic about forechecking and zone entry defense from today and August 16th.
Long story short: we ended up being one of the worst forechecking teams and an average team at exit and entry defense. It’s interesting to see that some of the better teams ranked out negatively on the defensive side of this analysis, but they compensated by being really great forecheckers.
I’ve harped on this for years, but AV’s forechecking scheme was doggy doo and we were way too passive. Quinn at least acknowledged this and said that an aggressive forecheck is important for playing good defense. I’m hoping they’ll be able to improve it this season and get back to being more difficult to play against.
Long story short: we ended up being one of the worst forechecking teams and an average team at exit and entry defense. It’s interesting to see that some of the better teams ranked out negatively on the defensive side of this analysis, but they compensated by being really great forecheckers.
I’ve harped on this for years, but AV’s forechecking scheme was doggy doo and we were way too passive. Quinn at least acknowledged this and said that an aggressive forecheck is important for playing good defense. I’m hoping they’ll be able to improve it this season and get back to being more difficult to play against.
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Kind of amazing what coaching teams in front of Luongo, Schneider, and Lundqvist can do for a guys reputation
Mac n Gs
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I can get being more aggressive in the d zone to use goaltender to bail you out, but not at the expense of forechecking. That’s just so illogical that it blows my mind.Kind of amazing what coaching teams in front of Luongo, Schneider, and Lundqvist can do for a guys reputation
DanielBrassard
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Would love to see the numbers from 13-14 until this season. I feel like the Rangers got worse and worse as a forechecking team each single year under AV. Would love to see if that's true or not.
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Because Hanifin was mentioned, the Athletic has a good article up today where Custance surveys a coach, scout, executive, player and media member to rank teams on a 1-5 scale, with 1 being 'legit stanley cup contender" and 5 being "lottery team"
When they asked the coach about the Flames, he said them losing Dougie Hamilton was a positive. One of the best young RD in the league, and losing him was a positive....
I just don't get it with him. He must be like a real shitty person or something. That's the only reason I could see people thinking losing him is a good thing
When they asked the coach about the Flames, he said them losing Dougie Hamilton was a positive. One of the best young RD in the league, and losing him was a positive....
I just don't get it with him. He must be like a real shitty person or something. That's the only reason I could see people thinking losing him is a good thing
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He likes going to museums and was upset when his brother was traded. Locker room cancer.
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The big positive with Hanifin is that he's improving year for year, i used to be very low on him but he's like 21 and improving notably and he's already a good middle pairing D, i think this is a safe bet contract with the cap going up and everything. At worst he stagnates and this is a big of an overpayment but he seems likely to improve atleast a bit and suddenly he's Worth $5m. We gotta remember that $5m ain't what it used to me, i kinda hate that we don't use cap % (both actual and when signed) when we talk about cap hits.
Kind of amazing what coaching teams in front of Luongo, Schneider, and Lundqvist can do for a guys reputation
One of these things is not like the others.
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I mean, sure, Hank and Lu are probably HoF bound, but Schneider was straight up dominant up until 16-17
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Imagine somebody in the 30th percentile in height standing next to somebody in the 5th percentile in height. You might think it looks ridiculous. The difference is two inches.
That's that problem with QoC. The difference between "2nd pair" and "3rd pair" by percentile is 12 seconds per game.
That's not to say QoC is completely invalid, but we need to understand how were measuring it. Measure it in percentiles, and I think it's misleading.
That's that problem with QoC. The difference between "2nd pair" and "3rd pair" by percentile is 12 seconds per game.
That's not to say QoC is completely invalid, but we need to understand how were measuring it. Measure it in percentiles, and I think it's misleading.
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Can you explain this sentence to me like I'm five, but unlike most five year olds, already understand what percentile means?
Machinehead
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Schneider (in his Nucks years) definitely belongs with Lu and Hank. That was his peak and he was elite for a few years there. His career doesn't belong with Hank and Lu but that's because of longevity, not because his peak wasn't high enough.
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I don't really buy the idea this team was average at defending the neutral zone or entrance into the offensive zone. I'd like to see the information they use to come to this conclusion.
Could being stuck in their own end a lot skew things?
Mac n Gs
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No because it’s measured based on transition plays. It’s possible to be average at controlling the neutral zone and bad in the defensive zone. Our issues were that teams were consistently able to sustain pressure when they gained the zone and were able to control the puck down low.
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Oscar Lindberg
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Hah
I do find it funny that the article says the Rangers targeted Lindgren specifically. Meanwhile in reality, the team wanted Frederic from Boston, and they said no, so they were forced to move to Lindgren
I do find it funny that the article says the Rangers targeted Lindgren specifically. Meanwhile in reality, the team wanted Frederic from Boston, and they said no, so they were forced to move to Lindgren
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For once I'd like to have a guy where the first word that comes out of the FO's mouth isn't 'character'. Maybe something like: "skilled" or "great". Beggars can't be choosers, I guess.
Irishguy42
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inb4 "He has GREAT character"
But for real though, they have guys where the words are "skilled" or the likes of that. And when they use the words like "character" and "skilled" and "fast" and whatever positive buzzwords you want to use for a good prospect, I think the importance of the "first word" is too much.
Now, if that's the ONLY word they use, then...
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Irishguy42
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Their priority seems all over the place and seems to change skater to skater. Giant grey area.
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