The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Zman5778]

Me knowing what was offered isn't based in EF reporting it. I heard we actually had 2 different offers on the table, one being the one everyone has heard of.

Ths isn't me giving him a pass on everything he's done (or hasn't done) up to this point. I'm just saying unless you want to throw Kulich or Power into the deal too that you can't force Allvin's hand.

We are pretty well f***ed now and I'm disappointed. I have no idea what we're gonna do now and that's on Adams for backing himself into a corner that we desperately needed this trade to work.

Any idea what the 2nd offer was? Or like general parameters? Something around Power?

 

[Gras]

You can by making an offer they can't refuse. Adams failed.

And then you'd complain that he overpaid for EP40.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Adams failed again and yes this is an Adams failure.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I am interested in seeing the return

J.T. Miller, Jackson Dorrington and Erik Brannstrom, For Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and a protected (top 13) first-round draft pick.

 

[toddkaz]

And then you'd complain that he overpaid for EP40.

You can predict the future? Have the lotto numbers? Good to see you make this about me and not the sabres.

 

[MagnumForce2]

J.T. Miller is returning to the Rangers in a trade with the Vancouver Canucks along with two prospects, Jackson Dorrington and Erik Brannstrom, according to multiple reports. The Rangers are reportedly sending Filip Chytil, prospect Victor Mancini and a protected first-round draft pick to Vancouver.

Pretty underwhelming return for Vancouver in my opinion.

 

[Zman5778]

Pretty underwhelming return for Vancouver in my opinion.

A guy with a history of wearing out his welcome in locker rooms, with 5 years left on his contract, who was openly sparring with his teams' star player. Vancouver was NEVER getting more for JTM, regardless of how good he can be when he tries.

I now await the first report of Panarin and JTM not getting along.

 

[Sabreality]

A guy with a history of wearing out his welcome in locker rooms, with 5 years left on his contract, who was openly sparring with his teams' star player. Vancouver was NEVER getting more for JTM, regardless of how good he can be when he tries.

I now await the first report of Panarin and JTM not getting along.

yea, and a healthy Chytl is a pretty good player, question is if he'll ever be 100% again.

 

[jc17]

A guy with a history of wearing out his welcome in locker rooms, with 5 years left on his contract, who was openly sparring with his teams' star player. Vancouver was NEVER getting more for JTM, regardless of how good he can be when he tries.

I now await the first report of Panarin and JTM not getting along.

Holding out hope he'll bully laf to us

 

[Zman5778]

yea, and a healthy Chytl is a pretty good player, question is if he'll ever be 100% again.

There's an argument that an engaged and healthy Chytl is a better player than Cozens is right now. Granted, Cozens has the potential to be way better.......but right now....there's an argument.

That said -- EP40/Chytl as a 1-2 punch is..........frail.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Canucks have no retention in the deal, which probably depresses the trade value a touch as well.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Pretty underwhelming return for Vancouver in my opinion.

Completely disagree I think Rangers got worked especially considering that he made trade control.

That Miller contract has maybe 1 year left on it before it gets real sour then you've got 6 more after that. Rangers going for it this year and next.

 

[Gras]

You can predict the future? Have the lotto numbers? Good to see you make this about me and not the sabres.

Pattern recognition.

 

[Irie]

Completely disagree I think Rangers got worked especially considering that he made trade control.

That Miller contract has maybe 1 year left on it before it gets real sour then you've got 6 more after that. Rangers going for it this year and next.

I think Miller has 5 years left on his deal, but other than that small detail, I completely agree with your assessment in your post.

 

[MagnumForce2]

I think Miller has 5 years left on his deal, but other than that small detail, I completely agree with your assessment in your post.

I guess your right for a guy who has averaged 95 pts a season for the last 3 years.

 

[Irie]

I guess your right for a guy who has averaged 95 pts a season for the last 3 years.

And who is turning 32 shortly, who's play this season has severely dropped off, who will be lucky to score 60 points, who is also signed for 5 more years to a huge contract, who had a full NMC, and who has a history of locker room drama.

Not to mention that his big scoring seasons were mostly because he was scoring 40% of his points on the Power play, which is almost never replicated after a trade.

Three nice pieces is honestly more than I thought Vancouver would get for him. Time will tell if they lost the trade as badly as most of the knee-jerk reactions are claiming they did today.

 

[MOGlLNY]

 

[Zman5778]

It is Seravelli, so very large cube of salt needed. But that could be interesting.

 

[Sabreality]

It is Seravelli, so very large cube of salt needed. But that could be interesting.

Gotta keep those clicks comin til the TDL

 

[MagnumForce2]

And who is turning 32 shortly, who's play this season has severely dropped off, who will be lucky to score 60 points, who is also signed for 5 more years to a huge contract, who had a full NMC, and who has a history of locker room drama.

Not to mention that his big scoring seasons were mostly because he was scoring 40% of his points on the Power play, which is almost never replicated after a trade.

Three nice pieces is honestly more than I thought Vancouver would get for him. Time will tell if they lost the trade as badly as most of the knee-jerk reactions are claiming they did today.

And how many games did Chytil play last year? Has a little bit of an injury history. His attitude might be questionable but JT Miller is a good player.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I actually like the trade for the NYR. I think JT Miller is better than what he showed this year and I’m guessing he’s going to be very motivated after the trade. I expect him to do well for the rangers and give them a big boost.

Even with this being a down year for him, he’s still out-producing every center on the NYR roster. He is most likely going to be their #1 C and could put up big points especially if he ends up playing with Panarin. With the 1st being top 13 protected it’s really not a very high price to pay and could look like a steal if Miller finds his form.

I don’t think Drury has done the best job as GM but at least he doesn’t just sit on his hands and do nothing while his team struggles…

 

[ValJamesDuex]

 

[MagnumForce2]

I hope we resign Zucker

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Lets move on to whatever other things he has working per Chad. Maybe he can get Marcus Pettersson extended to pair with Power. Or move Cozens for something else if the Van stuff is dead.

 

[Sabreality]

Lets move on to whatever other things he has working per Chad. Maybe he can get Marcus Pettersson extended to pair with Power. Or move Cozens for something else if the Van stuff is dead.

He wanted Chytl in a Van deal, Cozens for Chytl e4