The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

SnuggaRUDE · 2024-10-22T11:41:28-0400

Fjordy said:
That's his defense. Okay, Dahlin is playing injured. But he has no chemistry with Jokiharju. Top 4 RD still missing. Byram is left-handed, we needed a right-hander. Power is developing, and it seems to be going well. Ruff says he doesn't like it when a guy plays on the wrong side. Samuelsson is deteriorating, plagued by injuries, Clifton is just a physical guy from the third pair.

Adams created this defense himself, he could have done it differently.

No chemistry aside from his consistently best possession metrics.

Fjordy · 2024-10-22T12:33:15-0400

SnuggaRUDE said:
No chemistry aside from his consistently best possession metrics.

Cool, but it doesn't work.

SnuggaRUDE · 2024-10-22T12:53:20-0400

Fjordy said:
Cool, but it doesn't work.

If you don't believe in possession stats they also have by far the best counting stats this season too.

Fjordy · 2024-10-22T13:21:27-0400

SnuggaRUDE said:
If you don't believe in possession stats they also have by far the best counting stats this season too.

That's not the point, it's just that statistics don't always reflect what's actually happening on the ice and what doesn't pass the eye test. I've already talked about this here before, why Dahlin and Joki have good metrics, but they don't have chemistry and they don't fit together.

SnuggaRUDE · 2024-10-22T14:11:54-0400

Fjordy said:
That's not the point, it's just that statistics don't always reflect what's actually happening on the ice and what doesn't pass the eye test. I've already talked about this here before, why Dahlin and Joki have good metrics, but they don't have chemistry and they don't fit together.

So for years they've had good raw numbers GF/GA AND good possession stats, but none of that matches your eye test?

Maybe both sets of stats are wrong.

Fjordy · 2024-10-22T14:40:36-0400

SnuggaRUDE said:
So for years they've had good raw numbers GF/GA AND good possession stats, but none of that matches your eye test?

Maybe both sets of stats are wrong.

How many points did Dahlin score with Joki and how many with Samuelsson? Also how effective was Dahlin on RD compared to how he plays on LD, do you have that stat?

ValJamesDuex · 2024-10-22T15:01:53-0400

https://x.com/i/web/status/1848516773223510054

SnuggaRUDE · 2024-10-22T15:14:42-0400

Fjordy said:
How many points did Dahlin score with Joki and how many with Samuelsson? Also how effective was Dahlin on RD compared to how he plays on LD, do you have that stat?

We have goals scored while those pairings were on the ice yes.

In 2023-2024
Dahlin - Jokiharju 14 goals for // 12 goals against
Dahiln - Samuelsson 12 goals for // 21 goals against

Generally speaking he plays much higher event hockey as a RD than as a LD. Bryam-Dahlin were on the ice for a combined 8 goals/60 minutes last year. That's an insane bonkers pond hockey rate.

NotABadPeriod · 2024-10-22T18:49:57-0400

ValJamesDuex said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1848516773223510054

I'm weird, because the takeaway I got from this chart is:

Benson gets an initial to distinguish himself from all the other Bensons.

Samuelsson gets his full first name to distinguish himself from all the other M. Samuelssons.

Thompson just gets called Tage for some reason.

Uberpecker · 2024-10-22T19:10:57-0400

Unpopular opinion: The roster is fine.
Sure, they have a sputtering 2nd line, currently mediocre goaltending from their young tandem and a 1D that isn't fully healthy.
But that's par for the course over an 82 game season.
They also play good 5v5 hockey and are one point removed from a playoff spot.
We also know what the real problem is: Special teams.

Mattilaus · 2024-10-22T21:29:40-0400

NotABadPeriod said:
I'm weird, because the takeaway I got from this chart is:

Benson gets an initial to distinguish himself from all the other Bensons.

Samuelsson gets his full first name to distinguish himself from all the other M. Samuelssons.

Thompson just gets called Tage for some reason.

His name isn't Thompson, it's Tage.

zenthusiast · 2024-10-22T21:31:17-0400

Cozens for Zegras, set it off

debaser66 · 2024-10-23T05:12:20-0400

NotABadPeriod said:
I'm weird, because the takeaway I got from this chart is:

Benson gets an initial to distinguish himself from all the other Bensons.

Samuelsson gets his full first name to distinguish himself from all the other M. Samuelssons.

Thompson just gets called Tage for some reason.

This chart doesn't pass the eye test

Doug Prishpreed · 2024-10-23T05:42:22-0400

NotABadPeriod said:
Benson gets an initial to distinguish himself from all the other Bensons.

TageGod · 2024-10-23T07:21:05-0400

NotABadPeriod said:
I'm weird, because the takeaway I got from this chart is:

Benson gets an initial to distinguish himself from all the other Bensons.

Samuelsson gets his full first name to distinguish himself from all the other M. Samuelssons.

Thompson just gets called Tage for some reason.

This checks out. I call everyone by their last name, but I say Tage.

elchud · 2024-10-23T07:31:49-0400

We could be a 1 win team without the McLeod trade

TageGod · 2024-10-23T11:47:10-0400

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, Mcleod has a 40% shooting percentage. 10 total shots. 10 shots in...8 games? His goal scoring is going to drop to invisible once his streak cools off.

Mattilaus · 2024-10-23T12:11:01-0400

TageGod said:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, Mcleod has a 40% shooting percentage. 10 total shots. 10 shots in...8 games? His goal scoring is going to drop to invisible once his streak cools off.

Sure but it's also unlikely Cozens continues to shoot 0%. We have some regression in both directions for a bunch of players and it will likely even out. Let's pretend Cozens and McLeod both go to around 10%. That's 3.7 goals from them combined instead of just 4 from McLeod himself. Sure we are getting lucky from Mcleod but we are also getting unlucky with some other players.

Jacob582 · 2024-10-23T12:19:52-0400

When he's healthy can Benson go to Rochester on a conditioning assignment?

TageGod · 2024-10-23T12:20:46-0400

Mattilaus said:
Sure but it's also unlikely Cozens continues to shoot 0%. We have some regression in both directions for a bunch of players and it will likely even out. Let's pretend Cozens and McLeod both go to around 10%. That's 3.7 goals from them combined instead of just 4 from McLeod himself. Sure we are getting lucky from Mcleod but we are also getting unlucky with some other players.

For sure. I just would not expect 20+ from Mcleod.

joshjull · 2024-10-23T12:30:11-0400

TageGod said:
For sure. I just would not expect 20+ from Mcleod.

Maybe not. But he was on pace for 16 goals two seasons ago. He’s at roughly the same age a few other players have taken another step in their game.

He certainly won’t maintain his current scoring pace or shooting %. But he doesn’t need to be near either to put up 20 goals.

billsandsabres · 2024-10-23T12:33:38-0400

TageGod said:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, Mcleod has a 40% shooting percentage. 10 total shots. 10 shots in...8 games? His goal scoring is going to drop to invisible once his streak cools off.

he's passing the eye test for me regardless. the goals have just been a bonus.

SnuggaRUDE · 2024-10-23T12:37:03-0400

McLeod has the same xGF% as Cozens. If he's passing an eye test it's because he's scored some timely goals, and is generally getting difficult deployment.

Jacob582 · 2024-10-23T12:54:00-0400

My new forward line:

Kulich at center between Cozens and NAK.

Sit Quinn

Djp · 2024-10-23T13:05:13-0400

Jacob582 said:
My new forward line:

Kulich at center between Cozens and NAK.

Sit Quinn

What line is that?

Jacob582 said:
When he's healthy can Benson go to Rochester on a conditioning assignment?

For a conditioning he can
Peterka lost waiver exemption, Quinn still has it. So he can get sent down.

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