GDT: The 2023 NHL Entry Draft, June 28 - 29, 2023

[SoupNazi]

Here it is: The 2023 NHL Draft GDT.

Our list of picks is for reference below. I will update the OP if we make any deals with some of these picks throughout the day.

Will also try to update the OP as picks are made, and link to each prospect's discussion thread.

Round	Pick	#OA	Conditions	Pick Made/Disposition
1st	DET	9	N/A	9OA: Nate Danielson
1st	NYI	17	From Vancouver (1 Mar 2023). Hronek Trade.	17OA: Axel Sandin Pellikka
2nd	DET	41
2nd	STL	42	From St. Louis (21 Mar 2022). Leddy Trade
2nd	Van	43	From Vancouver (1 Mar 2023). Hronek Trade.
3rd	DET	73
4th	MIN	117	From Minnesota (3 Mar 2023). Sundqvist Trade.
5th	DET	137
6th	DET	169
7th	DET	201

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[PelagicJoe]

That’s at least good.

This tells me the problem is Draper. He needs to go. 2nd round picks under him are usually trash, other than Mazur. Hakan has continued to make great picks. We need a new NA scout.

I've been unimpressed with a lot of our scouting department for years now.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

lol, Wings in 24 hours went from the possibility of trading for impact forwards and drafting core pieces of our future team to whatever the f*** the last 24 hours have been.

lol. This off-season reminds me of the year we missed out on Suter and Parise. Larkin has to be looking at the next five years and wondering why the hell he didn't go UFA and go play with Werenski in Columbus.

 

[ShanahanMan]

I mean, ok. I just think we should get on the same page of what we're discussing. You asked "What other draft picks are sure fire NHLers?". I interpreted that as you meant there are 0.

And what is an "NHLer" according to you? 100+ NHL games played? Because I'd say there are a number of other guys that are sure fire NHLers, and its perfectly reasonable that draft picks in the 2nd round and beyond from 2020 and after have not played in the NHL yet, even when they are tracking very well

Okay fair point. For higher picks, I should say high end NHLers. For lower picks, yes, I’ll take just productive NHLers in any right.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

lol, Wings in 24 hours went from the possibility of trading for impact forwards and drafting core pieces of our future team to whatever the f*** the last 24 hours have been.

lol. This off-season reminds me of the year we missed out on Suter and Parise. Larkin has to be looking at the next five years and wondering why the hell he didn't go UFA and go play with Werenski in Columbus.

 

[ricky0034]

feelings on the picks themselves aside it's pretty disappointing that the Wings had three 2nds and didn't take a single forward with them even if they did at least take a decent looking one with their 3rd

 

[Realgud]

Current BPAs (according to McKenzie's list)

 

[izlez]

That’s at least good.

This tells me the problem is Draper. He needs to go. 2nd round picks under him are usually trash, other than Mazur. Hakan has continued to make great picks. We need a new NA scout.

Since 2019, who are the "Hakan" picks that have been great in the 2nd-3rd round? I'm not seeing a huge difference in NA vs Europe picks, unless you're just using your bias to say things like Buchelnikov is a stud and James is a bum, when it's way too early to tell

 

[ShanahanMan]

Since 2019, who are the "Hakan" picks that have been great in the 2nd-3rd round? I'm not seeing a huge difference in NA vs Europe picks, unless you're just using your bias to say things like Buchelnikov is a stud and James is a bum, when it's way too early to tell

Berggren is it.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Perron fell so far.

 

[PuckeDRW]

Someone is going to absolutely steal Jayden Perron by picking him this late

Canes..

 

[Frk It]

That Brady Cleveland pick is so confusing.

After doing some research, looks like his absolute ceiling is a rugged 6/7 D. I have no idea how using a 2nd round pick in a deep draft can be justified on a guy that likely never plays, and if everything goes absolutely right, he's a Brian Lashoff.

I just don't get it...if we were set on this guy for some reason, trade back? or just pick him later?

If you want a 6’5 physical defenseman then just draft Dvorak who has at least shown some offense and I’m fine with it.

 

[Detroit Knights]

corey perry traded for a 7th to chicago. oh boy

 

[Konnan511]

corey perry traded for a 7th to chicago. oh boy

Chicago soaking up the cap dumps and picks.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Chicago soaking up the cap dumps and picks.

and surrounding bedard with only long-tenured veterans to train him on the day-to-day i suppose

then again, it seems as though josh bailey is going to be waiver/buyout.

 

[redwings8831]

Knuble to Philly

 

[lidstromiscool]

Since 2019, who are the "Hakan" picks that have been great in the 2nd-3rd round? I'm not seeing a huge difference in NA vs Europe picks, unless you're just using your bias to say things like Buchelnikov is a stud and James is a bum, when it's way too early to tell

Hakan has earned the benefit of the doubt with his previous picks. Draper was hired on pure nepotism, with no background in scouting, and has yet to have what we would call a decent draft. His 2nd/3rd/4th round picks from North America (the players he watches) have been terrible.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Hakan has earned the benefit of the doubt with his previous picks. Draper was hired on pure nepotism, with no background in scouting, and has yet to have what we would call a decent draft. His 2nd/3rd/4th round picks from North America (the players he watches) have been terrible.

Mazur has been terrible? Nice opinion you got there.

 

[izlez]

Berggren is it.

Berggren was the draft before Draper was director of Amateur scouting. I was trying to make it an apples to apples time frame. Even then, do we KNOW that Berggren is a better NHLer than Veleno at this point?

So in rounds 2-3 "Hakan" has Albert Johansson, Wallinder, and a bunch of guys that are pretty far off.

"Draper" has Mazur and a bunch of guys that are pretty far off.

Fire Draper?
(and if we're talking 4th round picks like lidstrom is cool mentions, throw in a win for the Lombardi pick)

 

[izlez]

Hakan has earned the benefit of the doubt with his previous picks. Draper was hired on pure nepotism, with no background in scouting, and has yet to have what we would call a decent draft. His 2nd/3rd/4th round picks from North America (the players he watches) have been terrible.

"Draper retired on July 26, 2011"

"Immediately following Draper's retirement from hockey, he was added to the Red Wings' front office staff. He previously served as the special assistant to the general manager, Ken Holland. In this position Draper "work closely with Detroit’s management team, assisting in player evaluation at both the professional and amateur levels. He will be asked to provide input regarding potential trades and free agent signings, as well as providing insight into potential selections at the annual NHL Entry Draft."

...it sounds like he had 8 years of experience in scouting before he was hired?

EDIT: I dont know why that is crossed out. I need an adult!

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Stop drafting defensemen

 

[jaster]

Some guy named Sugarbaby was just drafted.

 

[ricky0034]

"okay we took a Forward now we need 20 more Defensemen"

 

[The Real Pastafarian]

Yes! Larry Keenan of Culver Academy. Brilliant pick.

JK, no idea who this spud is.

 

[RedWingzz]

lol another defenceman because why not.

We're gonna ice a roster with Larkin, Raymond and 16 defencemen I guess.

 

[Hen Kolland]

This dude is a mega overager