Prospect Info: The 2016 Draft Thread [Draft Lottery April 30th]

[McJadeddog]

Well my first post in this thread. I really didnt think we would be picking bottom 5 this year, but this team proves me wrong.

There is some elite talent in the top5 though. I know we dont need to get younger but dam on of the 2 finns on the wing would be pretty handy.

here is sneak-peek to next year: we're picking top-5 again

i'm serious as well.... there is not way that chia can make enough moves to get us out of the basement next season

 

[friction]

so there is still 15% chance we dont draft in top 5??

Yeah like finish 3rd to 5th last and have a terrible lottery

 

[Tyrolean]

I wouldn't. Matthews will be an elite #1 Center in the NHL. I would only trade the pick if OEL or Subban was offered

No way I would trade it for Subban. He's vastly overrated.

 

[Zaddy]

I'm in agreement with you in a lot of ways. I think it is ignorant how people talk about BPA all the time. There never really is a BPA outside of the top 10. Need, and risk assessment has to be taken into account as you say. Many teams actually discount certain prospects completely. I have first hand account of this from talking to some scouts. The biggest one being goaltenders. There are teams/scouts that don't even rank goalies if they don't fit the size requirement.

There really isn't an exact science in all of this. Its all about risk assessment or projection. Think of any ten player segment of the draft, especially outside of the top 10. Have any 10 people rank those players. Thats scouting in a nutshell. Some will rank them based on potential. Some will rank them based on risk. Some will rank them based on a size/skill combo. Some will rank them based on need. etc, etc, etc..... Fact is you must come to some consensus, but then remain flexible on your board. The Oilers biggest need going into this draft when looking at their prospect pool is at the forward position, and really it is everything about it. They currently don't have a single forward in the minors that I would consider a slam dunk NHLer. If the Oilers happen to draft Chychrun with their first pick, I would drop pretty much every defender off my board at that point, unless one falls drastically. With Paygin, Bear, Jones, Reinhart, Klefbom, Nurse and Chychrun, the Oilers would have a deep defensive prospect pool. They would need to focus on their weak forward group. They also need to find a goaltender. Brossoit will likely graduate next year leaving Laurikainen as the only goalie in the system.

Good post. I agree. Definitely need to find some decent forward prospects and a goalie or two this year.

 

[Da McBomb]

I'm not calling this the Auston Matthews lottery.. i'm calling it the OEL lottery.

Play like hell for OEL

 

[Joey Moss]

No way I would trade it for Subban. He's vastly overrated.

We would be stupid not to. Subban alone turns our PP into a top 10 at the very least and we could stick him out there for half the game. Whether you think he's overrated or not, he's still a #1 defenseman and just entering his prime.

 

[Draiskull]

I'm not calling this the Auston Matthews lottery.. i'm calling it the OEL lottery.

Play like hell for OEL

Domi, Duclair, Strome, Samuelsson, Reider up front
but ARI will trade its face of franchise and only good Dman for Matthews because he is from Arizona.

yup..

There hasnt been a single ARI fan who would trade OEL for Matthews yet every Oilers fan on the main boards is trying to shove that swap down their throat.

 

[Draiskull]

Yeah like finish 3rd to 5th last and have a terrible lottery

so catch 2 of BUF, CGY and WPG in other words.

Dont see it happening..

 

[ChaoticOrange]

here is sneak-peek to next year: we're picking top-5 again

i'm serious as well.... there is not way that chia can make enough moves to get us out of the basement next season

Totally depends if this team can stay healthy or not.

If we lead the league in man games lost to injury again, then for sure we're bottom 5.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I see us picking 3-5. I said for the longest time it would be 5-8, but once again I need to lower my expectations of this sad-sack team

I think we finish ahead of the Leafs and Columbus, maybe even the Jets or Flames.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Ryan Merkley would be a great pick up, right shot D....in the process of establishing himself as a leader and championship caliber defender.

Unfortunately he is 15.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ryan Merkley would be a great pick up, right shot D....in the process of establishing himself as a leader and championship caliber defender.

Unfortunately he is 15.

He's from Mississauga. According to Toronto fans, he'll spend the entirety of his pro career pining to play for the Leafs.

 

[Roof Daddy]

It's games like the one tonight that makes me think we aren't set on the wings at all. Hall forces so many plays that aren't there, I'm beginning to think his hockey IQ is barely above Yakupov's. The reason I bring it up is because I kind of want to draft both of the Finns. If we pick 2nd and take Laine, I'd see who is in the 3 spot and how much they'd be willing to add to the pick for Hall, or if the deal could be expanded to include a D man.

What if it were Buffalo @3? Murray is always looking to improve immediately. Hall + ? for 3rd overall + Bogosian.

Imagine Laine-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi

 

[Soundwave]

It's games like the one tonight that makes me think we aren't set on the wings at all. Hall forces so many plays that aren't there, I'm beginning to think his hockey IQ is barely above Yakupov's. The reason I bring it up is because I kind of want to draft both of the Finns. If we pick 2nd and take Laine, I'd see who is in the 3 spot and how much they'd be willing to add to the pick for Hall, or if the deal could be expanded to include a D man.

What if it were Buffalo @3? Murray is always looking to improve immediately. Hall + ? for 3rd overall + Bogosian.

Imagine Laine-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi

I just don't think Puljujarvi is that good. Hall has his issues, but he is still one of the most talented players in the NHL period. It's a minor miracle he hasn't completely lost his mind here, I think most star players would have asked for a trade out already.

 

[Zaddy]

It's games like the one tonight that makes me think we aren't set on the wings at all. Hall forces so many plays that aren't there, I'm beginning to think his hockey IQ is barely above Yakupov's. The reason I bring it up is because I kind of want to draft both of the Finns. If we pick 2nd and take Laine, I'd see who is in the 3 spot and how much they'd be willing to add to the pick for Hall, or if the deal could be expanded to include a D man.

What if it were Buffalo @3? Murray is always looking to improve immediately. Hall + ? for 3rd overall + Bogosian.

Imagine Laine-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi

Puljujärvi is overrated. He is not going to be as good as Hall IMO.

 

[5by5]

Leah Hextall says Hi

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

who do we pick at number 4? hopefully we trade the pick if we end up there but if we do pick, I don't want the overrated Tkachuk (from reports) a lot of secondary assists..

Chychrun? if we was right-handed it'd be a no-brainer for me
Nylander? meh
Juolevi? intriguing...

 

[Funk21]

Sorry i have to troll here, Edm should not be picking in the top ten regardless of how bad your team currently is. I don't blame the fans, geez you have been suffering but to get as many first overall and top ten picks you have had in the last 9 years is not a good business model for any sports league. If your owner cannot put together a competent managerial staff and ice a decent product then too bad. Its like you get rewarded for running a dysfunctional franchise over and over again and there needs to be a rule against it. I get that the leafs have had their share of bad managers but we have never gotten the opportunity to have access those type of picks year after year and still ice an abomination of a team. We have basically an AHL reject team team being iced night in and night out and we still can't seem to catch the futility that is the Oilers.

If the hockey gods have any sense of justice Edm will fall to 4 or 5 overall.

Rant over and flame shield on!!

 

[belair]

Sorry i have to troll here, Edm should not be picking in the top ten regardless of how bad your team currently is. I don't blame the fans, geez you have been suffering but to get as many first overall and top ten picks you have had in the last 9 years is not a good business model for any sports league. If your owner cannot put together a competent managerial staff and ice a decent product then too bad. Its like you get rewarded for running a dysfunctional franchise over and over again and there needs to be a rule against it. I get that the leafs have had their share of bad managers but we have never gotten the opportunity to have access those type of picks year after year and still ice an abomination of a team. We have basically an AHL reject team team being iced night in and night out and we still can't seem to catch the futility that is the Oilers.

If the hockey gods have any sense of justice Edm will fall to 4 or 5 overall.

Rant over and flame shield on!!

Don't worry, we'll finish ahead of you.

What might upset you is how ridiculous the draft lottery is.

 

[McJadeddog]

Don't worry, we'll finish ahead of you.

What might upset you is how ridiculous the draft lottery is.

i actually don't think we will finish ahead of toronto.... this team has completely, and utterly, given up.... i would be surprised if we win more than another 5-6 games for the rest of the year.... we'll finish DFL, i have no doubts

 

[Zaddy]

who do we pick at number 4? hopefully we trade the pick if we end up there but if we do pick, I don't want the overrated Tkachuk (from reports) a lot of secondary assists..

Chychrun? if we was right-handed it'd be a no-brainer for me
Nylander? meh
Juolevi? intriguing...

Personally I like Dubois and Sergachyov a lot, but if we do pick at #4 I feel fairly certain that Chychrun will be the pick. He is still extremely highly regarded in OHL circles and I would have to think he is a typical Chiarelli player. Big and strong, great skater and a leader. Not having the best year but still has #1D potential. If he becomes the player scouts think he can be then that is a guy you build around and win championships with. I like Sergachyov better but I wouldn't be disappointed if Chychrun was the pick. Juolevi is great too and while he might be as safe of a bet to become a top4 NHL d-man as anyone, I think his ceiling is lower compared to the other two.

 

[lakai17]

It's games like the one tonight that makes me think we aren't set on the wings at all. Hall forces so many plays that aren't there, I'm beginning to think his hockey IQ is barely above Yakupov's. The reason I bring it up is because I kind of want to draft both of the Finns. If we pick 2nd and take Laine, I'd see who is in the 3 spot and how much they'd be willing to add to the pick for Hall, or if the deal could be expanded to include a D man.

What if it were Buffalo @3? Murray is always looking to improve immediately. Hall + ? for 3rd overall + Bogosian.

Imagine Laine-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi

I am all over Laine + Juolevi.

Or at least Fabbro in the range of selections 10-15 I imagine.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Sorry i have to troll here, Edm should not be picking in the top ten regardless of how bad your team currently is. I don't blame the fans, geez you have been suffering but to get as many first overall and top ten picks you have had in the last 9 years is not a good business model for any sports league. If your owner cannot put together a competent managerial staff and ice a decent product then too bad. Its like you get rewarded for running a dysfunctional franchise over and over again and there needs to be a rule against it. I get that the leafs have had their share of bad managers but we have never gotten the opportunity to have access those type of picks year after year and still ice an abomination of a team. We have basically an AHL reject team team being iced night in and night out and we still can't seem to catch the futility that is the Oilers.

If the hockey gods have any sense of justice Edm will fall to 4 or 5 overall.

Rant over and flame shield on!!

Didn't your parents teach you that life's not fair?

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Edmonton won't be picking in the top 10. We will trade 1st overall to Arizona

 

[Soundwave]

Edmonton won't be picking in the top 10. We will trade 1st overall to Arizona

If they get the 1st overall, I hope Ryan Nugent Hopkins likes Columbus, Ohio or Long Island, New York. I'll just put it that way.

Matthews goes nowhere. Not only is he likely a better talent than anyone on the roster aside from McDavid, he's a *big* kid, 6 foot 2.