Prospect Info: The 2016 Draft Thread [Draft Lottery April 30th]

[Bryanbryoil]

Thats the same size Ryan was in his draft year.

IIRC Ryan was 6'2" in his draft year but I could be wrong.

Yes, but only if a better D-man wasn't on the table. The 1-2-3 picks this year are all going to be very valuable. I'm still hoping for a Matthews for OEL/Petro swap. I know HF scoffs at the idea, but the media doesn't and I personally think those guys are viable trade options for the 1st overall this year.

If Matthews projects to be a Tavares level player which IMO he does then I don't think that it is far fetched at all. The only issue then is who does Arizona sign on D because OEL would be a massive loss.

 

[Mr Positive]

If we have a pick like 5th overall then that is a perfect trade piece for Hamonic. If it's top 3 then I dont see it happening. It becomes like curse like how we should have drafted Murray instead of Yakupov but just couldn't justify it. And I like Yak a lot btw.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

If we have a pick like 5th overall then that is a perfect trade piece for Hamonic. If it's top 3 then I dont see it happening. It becomes like curse like how we should have drafted Murray instead of Yakupov but just couldn't justify it. And I like Yak a lot btw.

If we draft 5th ideally we move Eberle + for Hamonic or Vatanen and then draft Tkachuk/another power forward or a D with that pick.

 

[Oilception]

If we draft 5th ideally we move Eberle + for Hamonic or Vatanen and then draft Tkachuk/another power forward or a D with that pick.

I think get both. Eberle + for Hamonic and then picks and prospects for Vatanen

Im really hoping we trade the pick this year.

 

[backhandsauce]

At 8 I hope Olli Juolevi is available.

He's a stud.

 

[backhandsauce]

Also do we lose our 2nd rounder this year for PC?

 

[doubledown99]

Outside of #1, I personally wouldn't care if #2-5 pick was moved for Hamonic. Picks and potential always get overated. Hamonic is badly needed on this team. A big forward like Laine while very nice is much less needed.

If we get #1 I still would move it but for a better dman than Hamonic (OEL, Pie, Subban.....and before someone says anything, to get these players would require more than just the pick but I would include #1 as the centerpiece in the deal to try to acquire one of them)

 

[BarDownBobo]

I've got a feeling we're going to have a shot to pick one of the Finns no matter where we finish, unless the lottery is completely insane and has three teams win that were supposed to be 6th or lower originally. They hype for Dubois is going to keep growing, and when everything settles I could see him going #2. Chychrun probably slots in there somewhere too, Buffalo and maybe Winnipeg would probably have him high on their list.

 

[Mr Positive]

Outside of #1, I personally wouldn't care if #2-5 pick was moved for Hamonic. Picks and potential always get overated. Hamonic is badly needed on this team. A big forward like Laine while very nice is much less needed.

If we get #1 I still would move it but for a better dman than Hamonic (OEL, Pie, Subban.....and before someone says anything, to get these players would require more than just the pick but I would include #1 as the centerpiece in the deal to try to acquire one of them)

That would be ideal, and if we got a top pick i would look for that. I just find it appealing to finish the season as strong as possible, and then that pick becomes a perfect trade chip. I also get that ideally we send spare parts for Hamonic rather than a valuable pick, but with that thinking I fear he ends up in Calgary or some other team.

I just want to get the player

 

[CupofOil]

RNH was reported to be nearly FV. Laine is looking like an Eichel level prospect. Big value gap

Jones isnt a top pairing D yet either

The Oilers need to stop worrying about losing out on a bit of value. Jones is playing very well in Columbus and is much further along than any of these prospects. If Columbus offers that deal (which they likely won't), the Oilers need to jump on it and then use other assets to get Hamonic. It's time to accelerate this process forward.

If they win the lottery then I'd be putting on the full court press to get Pietrangelo, add fairly significantly if need be. This team could jump to contender really fast if Chia plays his cards right. He has a lot of assets to work with.

 

[jeg]

The Oilers need to stop worrying about losing out on a bit of value. Jones is playing very well in Columbus and is much further along than any of these prospects. If Columbus offers that deal (which they likely won't), the Oilers need to jump on it and then use other assets to get Hamonic. It's time to accelerate this process forward.

If they win the lottery then I'd be putting on the full court press to get Pietrangelo, add fairly significantly if need be. This team could jump to contender really fast if Chia plays his cards right. He has a lot of assets to work with.

We really don't have many assets that's what makes it so hard to acquire what we need.
We virtually have nothing to offer outside roster player and when we move them we have to fill the position with a massively downgraded player.
Our poor scouting has crippled this teams trade chips

 

[Draiskull]

We really don't have many assets that's what makes it so hard to acquire what we need.
We virtually have nothing to offer outside roster player and when we move them we have to fill the position with a massively downgraded player.
Our poor scouting has crippled this teams trade chips

On the other hand we really dont have many holes left to fill..
Sure the PIT 1st+ 2nd last season should have gotten us a better player than Reinhart but i am past it. If we keep the pick we are pretty much drafting an eventual replacement for Eberle or Sekera (a winger or a LD).

 

[jeg]

On the other hand we really dont have many holes left to fill..
Sure the PIT 1st+ 2nd last season should have gotten us a better player than Reinhart but i am past it. If we keep the pick we are pretty much drafting an eventual replacement for Eberle or Sekera (a winger or a LD).

we would be drafting a good prospect but by no means replacing either one of those players in the short term.
If in fact we move Eberle for a D who fills his role? We dont have hungry talented players jawing to get in the line up.

 

[Soli]

Had some time so I thought I'd put together a lil Mock for the picks the Oilers currently have and get some critique. Draft philosophy is a combination of BPA and needs, where needs will focus on RHD, skilled potential game changing forwards, and useful forwards with some size.

Lets get started.

EDM 1st - Jakob Chychrun

I like seeing some other posters with a 1. Matthews, 2. Laine, 3. Chychrun board. Who knows what happens with the lotteries this year, I'm gonna assume we used up all our luck last year, but if we're within the Top-5, we'll have a chance to snap up this defenseman I covet.

EDM 2nd - Jonathan Dahlen

Zaddy, I had no clue who this dude was when you brought him up. Did some researching and I'm a believer. After taking a defenseman in the 1st round, I'm looking for a forward here. Initially here I was pining for a bigger body in the range like Nathan Bastian or Tyler Raddysh, but with the number of picks we have and how high we're drafting, I decided to aim for a boomier/bustier pick. I considered the skilled Tyler Benson (who I think we'll see fall into the mid 2nd round), but I feel this Swedish forward could develop into more of a game changer than three listed, while being a less safe pick. That being said, historically we haven't had the best luck drafting forwards out of Timra.

EDM 3rd - Jacob Cederholm

A bit of a drafting for need pick. A 6'3 RHD defenseman, the Swedish rearguard is more defensively inclined. I think he'll be available around here but go before the 4th.

MIN 3rd - Connor Bunnaman

Wanted to take a guy like Givani Smith here, but I think we'll see player types like him (truculent forwards) go higher. And whats a mock draft without the disappointment of having a player snatched before your pick? So lets go with Connor Bunnaman here. 6'3 200 pounds and uses it well to protect the puck and battle along the boards. A true pivot but played a lot on the wing this season

PIT 3rd - Dmitri Sokolov

With three 3rd rounders, we owe it to ourselves to take some risks. Sokolov's taken a longer time to adapt to the North American game and there will always be a flight risk with younger Russians who's games don't immediately lead to success in North America. I actually think we could wait till the 4th round but I'll snatch him now for conversations sake.

EDM 5th - Jordan Sambrook

Hearing good things about the right handed Erie Otter defensemen. Decent size at 6'2 and I think he could develop into a 4/5 defenseman

STL 5th - David Quenneville

He has better point totals than the last RHD we took in the 5th round but he's more diminutive than Bear. Good bloodlines and hoping for some kind of late growth spurt. Eat more Alberta beef son.

EDM 6th - Tye Felhaber

The slight winger did not have a good first half of the season but has come along in the second half. Shifty offensive project.

EDM 7th - Nathan Noel

Went undrafted last year and was sorta surprised by that. Supposed to be a chippier capable two-way centre type

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How would ya'll like it if that came to fruition?

 

[doubledown99]

Soli I like Chychrun with our #1 pick but have to be honest....would be pretty disappointed if we kept our 1st this year. That pick should be very valuable trade chip. Cap isn't increasing, there are some teams that can't afford there RFA's or soon to UFA like Anaheim (Lindholm, Vatanen), St. Louis (Backes, Brouwer, Shattenkirk 2017) and maybe Winnipeg (Trouba) so a high pick should be very desirable for those teams. Then if you factor in the Hamonic situation.....this offseason should provide Chia the chance of acquiring some top 4 D and that top pick should be one of our most desirable trade chips

 

[Zaddy]

Had some time so I thought I'd put together a lil Mock for the picks the Oilers currently have and get some critique. Draft philosophy is a combination of BPA and needs, where needs will focus on RHD, skilled potential game changing forwards, and useful forwards with some size.

Lets get started.

EDM 1st - Jakob Chychrun

I like seeing some other posters with a 1. Matthews, 2. Laine, 3. Chychrun board. Who knows what happens with the lotteries this year, I'm gonna assume we used up all our luck last year, but if we're within the Top-5, we'll have a chance to snap up this defenseman I covet.

EDM 2nd - Jonathan Dahlen

Zaddy, I had no clue who this dude was when you brought him up. Did some researching and I'm a believer. After taking a defenseman in the 1st round, I'm looking for a forward here. Initially here I was pining for a bigger body in the range like Nathan Bastian or Tyler Raddysh, but with the number of picks we have and how high we're drafting, I decided to aim for a boomier/bustier pick. I considered the skilled Tyler Benson (who I think we'll see fall into the mid 2nd round), but I feel this Swedish forward could develop into more of a game changer than three listed, while being a less safe pick. That being said, historically we haven't had the best luck drafting forwards out of Timra.

EDM 3rd - Jacob Cederholm

A bit of a drafting for need pick. A 6'3 RHD defenseman, the Swedish rearguard is more defensively inclined. I think he'll be available around here but go before the 4th.

MIN 3rd - Connor Bunnaman

Wanted to take a guy like Givani Smith here, but I think we'll see player types like him (truculent forwards) go higher. And whats a mock draft without the disappointment of having a player snatched before your pick? So lets go with Connor Bunnaman here. 6'3 200 pounds and uses it well to protect the puck and battle along the boards. A true pivot but played a lot on the wing this season

PIT 3rd - Dmitri Sokolov

With three 3rd rounders, we owe it to ourselves to take some risks. Sokolov's taken a longer time to adapt to the North American game and there will always be a flight risk with younger Russians who's games don't immediately lead to success in North America. I actually think we could wait till the 4th round but I'll snatch him now for conversations sake.

EDM 5th - Jordan Sambrook

Hearing good things about the right handed Erie Otter defensemen. Decent size at 6'2 and I think he could develop into a 4/5 defenseman

STL 5th - David Quenneville

He has better point totals than the last RHD we look in the 5th round but he's more diminutive than Bear. Good bloodlines and hopping for some kind of late growth spurt. Eat more Alberta beef son.

EDM 6th - Tye Felhaber

The slight winger did not have a good first half of the season but has come along in the second half. Shifty offensive project.

EDM 7th - Nathan Noel

Went underrated last year and was sorta surprised by that. Supposed to be a chippier capable two-way centre type

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How would ya'll like it if that came to fruition?

Would not be disappointed with that draft at all. Lots of good players. I'm not a huge fan of Cederholm though and would probably take someone else there, or if you have to go with a big swedish d-man from HV71 I'd rather select Jacob Moverare. He's an LHD but whatever, I believe more in his chances of becoming an NHLer. Bunnaman I don't know much about at all so can't say anything about that pick but the others are bang on.

Sokolov massive upside, and if you're going to go with a risky pick I'd rather take him than Day honestly. Heard good things about Sambrook too. Another under-the-radar OHL defenseman is Riley Stillman from the Oshawa Generals. Was pointless in his first 20 games of the season but has 19 points in his last 35 games. Trending really well and earned a letter on a rebuilding Oshawa team.

Quenneville is an incredible player, his size will always be a question but that kind of potential is worth taking a shot at. Felhaber I'd expect to get picked a little earlier than the 6th based on his pedigree alone. Probably a pretty polarizing prospect though. Noel I haven't seen this year but he'd be an OK 7th round pick. One guy I really hope get drafted though is Maxim Lazarev from the Q. I really think he has an NHL future.

Btw, if you liked Dahlén you might like another skilled swedish player too. Jesper Bratt is not as good but he's a guy I wouldn't mind with a 3rd round pick. Fantastic skater and very skilled.



Enjoy

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

re; Soli

I like the idea of taking a skilled guy with the 2nd....but those guys are usually long shots. It couldn't hurt to have a skill guy waiting in the wings and simmering in the minors/ahl for a few years (how many analogies can I fit in here) having another skilled forward could be a blessing in disguise and if he cut's the mustard it will kill two birds with one stone in terms of cap space and scoring depth for the future.

Rasmus Asplund is another guy too if he falls out of the 1st round.

 

[Aceboogie]

re; Soli

I like the idea of taking a skilled guy with the 2nd....but those guys are usually long shots. It couldn't hurt to have a skill guy waiting in the wings and simmering in the minors/ahl for a few years (how many analogies can I fit in here) having another skilled forward could be a blessing in disguise and if he cut's the mustard it will kill two birds with one stone in terms of cap space and scoring depth for the future.

Rasmus Asplund is another guy too if he falls out of the 1st round.

We need skilled forward forwards bad. We are probably worst in the league for forward prospects. Yakimov and Khaira are bottom line guys. Only Slepy/Chase/Platzer have skill- how much is to be seen

For D prospects we are set

Id drfat like 3 or 4 skilled guys this draft if they are there

 

[smokersarejokers]

How's the goalie situation in this draft? I'm a little nervous about the prospect depth after Brossoit and Laurikainen.

 

[hallhopkinseberle]

I hope that we don't use all of draft picks this draft.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Does anyone think there is an nhl ready defender in the draft?

 

[HeavyHitter99]

Does anyone think there is an nhl ready defender in the draft?

Chychrun is the most NHL ready defender.

 

[Soundwave]

Chychrun is the most NHL ready defender.

I agree. We may have to wait a year, but really it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Physically he's a beast apparently so that won't be the issue.

 

[SDig14]

Sergachev is as ready as any defender in the draft physically and with his hockey IQ.

Rushing defenders into the NHL is never a good idea unless they prove they can excel, I.e. Ekblad, Doughty, etc as 18 year olds.

Nothing wrong with another year in junior unless they force your hand.

 

[HeavyHitter99]

I agree. We may have to wait a year, but really it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Physically he's a beast apparently so that won't be the issue.

Sergachev is as ready as any defender in the draft physically and with his hockey IQ.

Rushing defenders into the NHL is never a good idea unless they prove they can excel, I.e. Ekblad, Doughty, etc as 18 year olds.

Nothing wrong with another year in junior unless they force your hand.

Chychrun isn't far behind Ekblad and he has a very good chance of being in the NHL next season.

Sergachev needs another year imo to work on his defensive deficiencies. He's not a liability or anything but he doesn't have a habit of running around in the DZ once the opposing team starts cycling. Another year in the O to hone his defensive positioning would definitely be beneficial.