Prospect Info: The 2016 Draft Thread [Draft Lottery April 30th]

[Lacaar]

My hfboard spidey sensors say this.

1. Mathews
2. Laine
3. Chycrun
4. Dubois

spelling be damned.. haven't watched a one either.

All I want is a hit on the dman. Which one excel's despite or in spite of his physical skills.
Nurse excelled due to superior skating, meanness, and toughness.

Does Chycrun do what he does if he was 5 foot 9? how do you identify a good or even great d man.. that's the key.

I saw Ekblad play in the world juniors. and he excelled. Not because he was bigger. definitely not because he was faster.. he just knew.

Get that guy

 

[Staghorn]

You haven't watched Dubois have you? And how much have you watched Tkachuk outside the WJC?

Dubois is 6'4", plays mean too (without Tkachuk's attitude issues), can play physical, is a much better skater, is stronger, he can play all positions and he plays a 2-way game. Dubois has climbed up the rankings and is as high as 4 by some people (including me). I suggest you try watching him, he's easily more dynamic and a better fit for us.

Well I cant say I've seen Tkatchuk in person, but I have seen two maybe three Knights games this year on TSN... And no, haven't paid too much attention to anyone from the Q. I never watch Q games - just don't do it for me. I will make an effort to check out Dubois over the next while as I have heard his name more of late.

Tkatchuk for me just has that winning jerkish American edge that I like in moderation.. I think that edge would be a great compliment to the team of pusses that are the Oilers. ( Maroon excluded). By adding Tkatchuk I see adding a bit of arrogance too, something all winning teams need a bit of. Everyone on the team can't just float around cashing $6 mil cheques hitting nothing.

 

[smokersarejokers]

Sergachyov and Windsor play Kingston today on sportsnet at noon.

 

[McDrai]

Well my top 3 would be:
1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Chychrun

I think the first 2 are must-draft players. Once those are gone, I can see the Oilers drafting for need.

 

[Cerebral]

Well my top 3 would be:
1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Chychrun

I think the first 2 are must-draft players. Once those are gone, I can see the Oilers drafting for need.

Chychrun is a man-child and I think he's ready for the NHL already. However, if the Oilers draft him, I hope they trade Nurse for a more established top 4 defenceman. Running with Chychrun and Nurse would be a bad move.

I would rather we keep Nurse, draft a forward with the pick, and then trade Eberle and potentially Nuge for the defencemen we need.

 

[HeavyHitter99]

As I've stated many times I'm a big David Quenneville fan so when he played in Edmonton Friday night I took the chance to go see him again. Like usual he left me impressed. In the first period alone he absolutely levelled Kole Gable of the Oil Kings, drew a penalty later and also scored a power play goal. He finished the night with 1 goal + 2 assists for 3 points, 6 shots and a +1. Despite his stature he never stops surprising me with his ability to lay big hits. Earlier in the season when I saw him completely stand up Brandon Baddock (one of the toughest guys in the WHL) is when I really began to want this kid.

 

[Stiltzkin*]

Chychrun is a man-child and I think he's ready for the NHL already. However, if the Oilers draft him, I hope they trade Nurse for a more established top 4 defenceman. Running with Chychrun and Nurse would be a bad move.

I would rather we keep Nurse, draft a forward with the pick, and then trade Eberle and potentially Nuge for the defencemen we need.

I'd rather draft Chychrun, keep Nurse and trade Eberle for more meat upfront.

 

[Macblender]

Chychrun is a man-child and I think he's ready for the NHL already. However, if the Oilers draft him, I hope they trade Nurse for a more established top 4 defenceman. Running with Chychrun and Nurse would be a bad move.

I would rather we keep Nurse, draft a forward with the pick, and then trade Eberle and potentially Nuge for the defencemen we need.

If we were drafting 3 or 4 and take Chychrun we need to load up with two top 4 D for sure so Vatanen and Hamonic etc. then we can only have 1 of Chychrun or Nurse in the line up probably give Chychrun a 9 game stint to get an idea of what he needs to do to be successful in the NHL and stick him in Junior for another year.

Or is he for sure past the point of needing any more seasoning at that level.

 

[OilTastic]

Well my top 3 would be:
1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Chychrun

I think the first 2 are must-draft players. Once those are gone, I can see the Oilers drafting for need.

if the Oilers draft top 2 i could see them taking Matthews or Laine but after that the pick likely gets traded for some good defensive help. and nothing against the Chychrun fans here but if he's the next player up at the draft, the Oilers should trade the pick for him for some more immediate help on defense and not be adding yet another inexperienced kid or waiting 3 or 4 years for Chychrun to develop and i firmly believe that Chia is likely pondering doing just this in order to get better now. we desperately need to break the losing here and using our high pick would go a long ways to helping do just that.

 

[McWeber]

If we are keeping the pick and its not top 3 I think Chiarelli would have a hard time passing over Dubois. Our prospect pool at D is much better than forward and Dubois seems to have every attribute Chia values.

 

[McDrai]

Chychrun is a man-child and I think he's ready for the NHL already. However, if the Oilers draft him, I hope they trade Nurse for a more established top 4 defenceman. Running with Chychrun and Nurse would be a bad move.

I would rather we keep Nurse, draft a forward with the pick, and then trade Eberle and potentially Nuge for the defencemen we need.

I would aim to keep both Nurse and Chychrun. Deal one of Eberle/RNH for Hamonic/Vatanen and sign a top 4 Dman in free agency. Have Nurse and Chychrun battle it out in training camp for a spot. If neither looks ready then send Nurse to the AHL and Chychrun to the OHL

 

[SDig14]

Definitely tune into Sergachev today if you have a chance. Going to be a special player IMO.

He does basically everything well and has some elite areas. Bomb of a shot (probably harder already than all our dmen not named Oscar or Brandon), really good skater for a big kid, very smart all over the ice and gets the puck out of the zone very quickly.

Pretty much everything you want at the next level.

I've only seen him 5 or 6 times so I haven't seen too much physical play from him, but he definitely has it in his game. Some people who have seen him more say he is more physical than I've seen.

 

[Stiltzkin*]

if the Oilers draft top 2 i could see them taking Matthews or Laine but after that the pick likely gets traded for some good defensive help.

or you just deal the pick no matter what.
help on D will be needed even if it's #1 or #2 and stockpiling top forwards
has not exactly been a winning concept Before.

 

[Lacaar]

or you just deal the pick no matter what.
help on D will be needed even if it's #1 or #2 and stockpiling top forwards
has not exactly been a winning concept Before.

Easier said then done.

High end defence men just aren't traded. They're more valuable than 1st overalls now days.

 

[Fourier]

Just for kicks I took the NHL draft odds an combined them with Sportsclub's numbers for where the Oilers might finish and this is the current odds for the Oilers draft position.

1) 13.48%
2) 12.80%
3) 12.05%
4) 26.68%
5) 19.88%
6) 8.45%
7) 4.00%
8) 1.94%
9) 0.63%
10) 0.08%

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Just for kicks I took the NHL draft odds an combined them with Sportsclub's numbers for where the Oilers might finish and this is the current odds for the Oilers draft position.

1) 13.48%
2) 12.80%
3) 12.05%
4) 26.68%
5) 19.88%
6) 8.45%
7) 4.00%
8) 1.94%
9) 0.63%
10) 0.08%

46% 4th or 5th eh.

Chychrun? Dubois?

Or trade the pick?

 

[Stud Muffin]

46% 4th or 5th eh.

Chychrun? Dubois?

Or trade the pick?

Juolevi. Preferably trade it though.

 

[MoneyGuy]

Just for kicks I took the NHL draft odds an combined them with Sportsclub's numbers for where the Oilers might finish and this is the current odds for the Oilers draft position.

1) 13.48%
2) 12.80%
3) 12.05%
4) 26.68%
5) 19.88%
6) 8.45%
7) 4.00%
8) 1.94%
9) 0.63%
10) 0.08%

Almost a two in three chance of top four.

 

[MinimaMoralia]

46% 4th or 5th eh.

Chychrun? Dubois?

Or trade the pick?

I am.. SOOO sick of watching these 19 and 20 year old kids get thrown into the fire, and predictably make mistakes, struggle, get roughed up, and broken down. (What different players Drai and Nurse were just 30 games ago). Chychrun is going to be very slick, I've never waived on my opinion he's of future top pairing material, but it won't be next season, and likely not for a few years. We need immediate freaking help on our blueline. I say, in the case that we finish out of the top three, deal the heck out of that pick for a decent top four blueliner, who knows what he's doing, and can help us actually win a few games next season. Do we sacrifice a bit of our future? Perhaps. But dang, that future seems to be ever elusive. Let's try for the present.

 

[Fourier]

46% 4th or 5th eh.

Chychrun? Dubois?

Or trade the pick?

Trading the pick at 1 or 2 for me would require a significant return. I'd probably rather deal Eberle or even RNH if the pick was a #1. For 3-5 I would try my best to deal the pick for the best defenseman you can get. Beyond that it really depends on the return. If you can get Chychrun or an equivalent defenseman maybe you think about moving Nures for someone like Hamonic.

 

[CupofOil]

46% 4th or 5th eh.

Chychrun? Dubois?

Or trade the pick?

I'd consider dealing that pick for Hamonic if Snow can't find the D equivalent he's looking for, don't think he'd be interested in Eberle as he might as well just sign Okposo to Eberle money and keep Hamonic.

Anyway, if they keep the pick, I'd probably take Chychrun even at 3. Their best chance to get a #1 Dman is through the draft and he has a better chance to be a #1 than either Klefbom or Nurse. It will also give them flexibility to deal Klefbom or Nurse one or two years down the line for an upgrade or a need elsewhere.

My ultimate pipedream is Pietrangelo because St. Louis is a perfect trade partner for a combination of RNH/Drai and the pick/Klefbom/Nurse but if they can't get a #1, I think they should draft one and go for Hamonic and/or Vatanen.

 

[Stiltzkin*]

Easier said then done.

High end defence men just aren't traded. They're more valuable than 1st overalls now days.

so be it. but you're not gonna get that top D unless you draft him and develop him
and most people seem stuck on drafting a forward. Come on, hasn't history taught you anything?

 

[HeavyHitter99]

Another 3 points for Dubois today and +3 also. Good chance he gets over 100 points (92 right now) to match his 100+ pims. Skating looked beautiful today. Right now they have him at 91 points because they aren't counting his empty net assist, I'm sure it'll be changed.

 

[Zaddy]

Lucas Johansen (brother of Ryan) seem to be on the rise. Ranked #30 on McKeen's latest list. 43 points in 62 games for the Kelowna Rockets this season is a massive swing from his 8 pts last year. This is a guy that was a 6th round pick in the WHL draft. Late-bloomer like his brother. Question is how far up the rankings he goes or if he'll be there with our 2nd round pick. Could be a good selection otherwise, he's another lefty though.

 

[PKSpecialist]

Anybody catch the Windsor-Kingston game? I completely forgot to PVR it....