Prospect Info: The 2015 NHL Draft Thread VII

[Emperoreddy]

Shero said on SiriuxXM that he had a very long conversation yesterday with David Cont about the draft...

Also said he wants a coach in place by the draft most likely

Unless we trade up, or trade out completely my money is on Barzal if he really wanted a center as some other posters guess.

Seems like the next true center after Strome (whether others I can see ending up at wing).

 

[Tretyak 20]

The knock I'm reading on Staal is he passed on Toews.

Toews wasn't nearly as highly touted back then. At the time Staal was the consensus better pick by a good margin - something worth remembering about prospects.

 

[GhostofKenKlee]

Toews wasn't nearly as highly touted back then. At the time Staal was the consensus better pick by a good margin - something worth remembering about prospects.

That's reading what pundits say with hindsight in mind.

For all the crap Lou gets for only drafting Henrique as a forward, that's Shero sole forward that developed and that's a 2nd. overall.

 

[RSeen]

Yes, he obtained the 8th overall pick, Sutter and a prospect for Staal.

That is a good return for a guy who had only 1 year left on his deal.

 

[MichaelJ]

I get this feeling too and I would like that a lot.

He knows the success in PIT was built around its centers. We're obviously not getting a Crosby or Malkin but I see Shero trying to put that framework in place first.

I don't think he messes with the D much.

 

[MichaelJ]

That is a good return for a guy who had only 1 year left on his deal.

And who was going to CAR anyway.

 

[Smitty426]

My Top-10 (at the moment).

1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Marner
4. Strome
5. Provorov
6. Zacha
7. Barzal
8. Hanifin
9. Konecny
10. Rantanen

Hani at 8 huh?

 

[MichaelJ]

Toews wasn't nearly as highly touted back then. At the time Staal was the consensus better pick by a good margin - something worth remembering about prospects.

I wonder how Staal would've done as a PF on one of the top 2 lines as opposed to being the 3C.

 

[Billdo]

While I don't want Crouse, I find it hard to believe all the professional scouts are wrong and everyone on this board is right. Can he bust? Absolutely, but so can anyone else you'd rather pick over him. My hope is we take Barzal and in the second Sprong is still there with Bracco.

 

[Devils Trap]

While I don't want Crouse, I find it hard to believe all the professional scouts are wrong and everyone on this board is right. Can he bust? Absolutely, but so can anyone else you'd rather pick over him. My hope is we take Barzal and in the second Sprong is still there with Bracco.

No the problem with Crouse isnt that he will bust... Crouse may be the safest choice there, he will most likely be an NHL player, but we need a game changer, not a 2nd line powerforward

 

[Billdo]

No the problem with Crouse isnt that he will bust... Crouse may be the safest choice there, he will most likely be an NHL player, but we need a game changer, not a 2nd line powerforward

Oh I completely get that, but some people are so anti Crouse because they don't see him as becoming a legit NHLer from what I've seen. Like I said, I want Barzal.

 

[theoptimist]

please let this 1C you all speak of be ROR

 

[Cheddabombs]

please let this 1C you all speak of be ROR

I'd rather not. Not that I don't like ROR, he's a great player, just too much of a flight risk to give up the amount it would take to land him.

 

[glenwo2]

Hani at 8 huh?

My reaction, too.


If Hanifin fell to 6th, I have a hard time believing that the Devils will pass on him.

However, now with Shero being the GM instead Lou, it's no longer a certainty.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I'd rather not. Not that I don't like ROR, he's a great player, just too much of a flight risk to give up the amount it would take to land him.

Why a trade agreement would hinge on a contract as well

 

[Cheddabombs]

Why a trade agreement would hinge on a contract as well

Which would cost a **** ton more, a price I don't think we should be paying.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Which would cost a **** ton more, a price I don't think we should be paying.

In futures? No it wouldn't. Colorado would know he was a goner either way. They wouldn't charge us more because he rather sign here.

 

[Tretyak 20]

My reaction, too.


If Hanifin fell to 6th, I have a hard time believing that the Devils will pass on him.

However, now with Shero being the GM instead Lou, it's no longer a certainty.

If you go back and look at all the defensemen taken in the top 5 over the last 15 years or so, you'll find that the majority (about 2/3 by my count) never lived up to the hype. By contrast about 60% of forwards drafted did basically live up to their hype. Defense is much harder to project and we don't need it anyway. Best forward available and don't risk buyers' remorse. The realistic chances that Hanifin is the next Doughty are 1 in 10 at best.

In futures? No it wouldn't. Colorado would know he was a goner either way. They wouldn't charge us more because he rather sign here.

ROR doesn't just want out of Col., he wants top dollar from whoever will pay it. He’s a bigger mercenary than a certain Russian who gets that label around here ever was.

 

[MasterofGrond]

Ain't no word I hate more in the context of professional sports than "Mercenary."

Why is it wrong to want to earn as much as possible during your relatively limited playing career?

If another company offers me 20% more than the one I'm at to do the same job you KNOW i'm jumping ship.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Ain't no word I hate more in the context of professional sports than "Mercenary."

Why is it wrong to want to earn as much as possible during your relatively limited playing career?

If another company offers me 20% more than the one I'm at to do the same job you KNOW i'm jumping ship.

completely different scenarios. I hate the real life examples. do you sign a contract with your company?

 

[glenwo2]

Ain't no word I hate more in the context of professional sports than "Mercenary."

Why is it wrong to want to earn as much as possible during your relatively limited playing career?

If another company offers me 20% more than the one I'm at to do the same job you KNOW i'm jumping ship.

what I want to know is why the subject is switching from Prospects to a certain someone who should really not be mentioned? (directed more toward tretyak than you, btw)

 

[Tretyak 20]

what I want to know is why the subject is switching from Prospects to a certain someone who should really not be mentioned? (directed more toward tretyak than you, btw)

Reasons of comparison only. My point was no thanks to ROR.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Reasons of comparison only. My point was no thanks to ROR.

You wouldn't pay him? Seems like one of the few players out there worth money.

Though I do agree and would prefer to just draft our own young talented center man with this pick.

 

[Oneiro]

I just remembered that we are going to get a really talented player this summer.

Nice.

 

[glenwo2]

I just remembered that we are going to get a really talented player this summer.

Nice.

Unless Ray trades the pick.....