Bobby9
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Theirs absolutely no way the Canucks should sign him to a long term contract. That would be the final nail in the coffin.
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I'm actually willing to gamble on Demko. Extend him for 3-4 years at $6M AAV. He probably won't take it though. Probably play things out and see if he can get that Vezina goalie calibre money.
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He has to take a back up role unfortunately with his injury history.
Love the player, hate the issues
Lank to a 4x4.
Demko to a 2x2 as back up.
You can't be serious with Demko at 2x2. He will never take less than what he is making now despite his injuries. Dude is 29 and he is looking for his last payday. Offering him 2 mil is like a spit in the face. I'd rather we move him at the deadline if he is healthy and get something for him.
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Lankinen has done a great job this season and I hope he's re-signed.
That said, the Canucks are not getting past the top teams in the West without Demko back playing true to form. I would rather gamble on his health over the next couple seasons than take a mediocre package of picks.
Hopefully this injury is just a blip as he was just starting to heat up.
That said, the Canucks are not getting past the top teams in the West without Demko back playing true to form. I would rather gamble on his health over the next couple seasons than take a mediocre package of picks.
Hopefully this injury is just a blip as he was just starting to heat up.
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Bobby9
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I want a 10 who makes 200k a year and isn’t high maintenance. What’s your point?
No GM is giving him what he wants
No GM is going to give him a 7 year contract.
Someone will offer him way more than $2 million per year if he's willing to take a two year contract though.
A "back up role" should not be defined by salary but by performance. Peak Demko is simply better than Peak Lankinen.
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how’s his performance been over the last 6 months?A "back up role" should not be defined by salary but by performance. Peak Demko is simply better than Peak Lankinen.
What is it with fans of this team wanting to keep pay insane salaries for players who are injured or players who are showing crazy red flags?
Then let another GM be on the hook for 5-6-7M when he is injured again.
You're talking about two different things. Demko's track record is what it is both performance and injury wise. You obviously don't think he can stay healthy or even perform like a top 10 goalie when healthy so of course for you the proper course is to trade him. There's really not much discussions to be had. If management thinks the way you do, they absolutely should not be thinking of extending Demko.
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What is a top goalie?
I think it´s a good goalie, wich has a good defence in front of him.
Ths goes to show that top goalies for some strange reasons, almost allways end up having top back ups.
There are atleast a hundred top goalies in the world.
You shouldn´t overpay for a top goalie. Get a really good defence and the top goalie will materialize.
I would say a top 10 goalie in the NHL is a "top goalie." Certainly, Demko being a Vezina finalist last year is a "top goalie" when healthy. There are a exceptions, but usually goalies who manage to be Vezina finalists are "top goalies" rather than just having a good year.
A good defence helps but there's the old eye test, save %, and the more modern saves above expected stats to help evaluate goalies.
They do?
There are? Please name the #90-100 ranked "top goalies" in the world.
You get what you pay for. I've always said that you need great goalie performances rather than a great goalie in the playoffs. But you increase your odds of getting that great goalie performance by having a great goalie.
At the end of the day, the better goalie in the playoff series more often than not wins the series.
Regardless we will never agree. I place great value in goaltending and poor goaltending can absolutely sink a team and make it difficult to properly evaluate the defence.
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Hips! At least one. Likely the right one. Those pain killers only work so well but when you hear the crackling but don't feel it, time to be off.
Don't believe anything out of Tocchet blow hole, last time Demko wasn't bad and it was a knee it was weeks and about 3 games then done.
Knees injuries are very noticeable, a person limps, that goes for knee tendonitis as well.
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His surgically repaired hips are f***ed and the way he has to compensate for them would seem to be causing extra wear and tear across other joints and ligaments.
This is just crazy.
- Mar 9/24: Knee. Misses 14 game
- Returned Apr 16 play 2 games then misses 38 games over 2 seasons with popliteus injury
- Returned to play Dec 10/24 to play 7 games then out for 3 games with back injury (Jan 2/25).
- Returned Jan 10/25 to play 9 games before being injured Feb 8/25 with lower body injury. Now week to week.
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Don't believe that Popo muscle injury. McDavid had his detached and never had surgery. It was just a red herring to divert reality.
Everyone that can read can see what the outcome of surgically repaired hips, they just don't last.
Truthfully I am amazed the Kane has performed so well, that is a first, ever.
If hips they don't always have a limp, but his can be described as back spasms, knee issues, groin pulls, stomach, lower body.
Watch last year when he went out, he never limped, he had no problem lifting his leg with the pads on over the bench, he didn't lean one way or the other on on his stick. But with hips he wouldn't, especially if he had pain killers
That's an interesting point. Most goalies undergo the surgery Demko underwent eventually. What is somewhat unique is that Demko had the surgery at a younger age than most NHL goalies.
Can you think of another example where an NHL goalie underwent the same type of hip surgery around the same age as Demko or earlier and had or didn't have knee issues?
At some point diehard Canuck fans have to reluctantly move off the idea that Demko is just the recipient of some 'bad injury luck'.
If his injuries aren't yet 'chronic', we have to accept that we might getting 'close'. When he hits 30, it's hard to see any scenario where the injury absences don't just magically go away.
It obviously leaves the Canucks in tough spot. They've taken excellent goaltending for granted so long, it's going to be a tough transition to land in the same goalie swamp that most of the rest of the NHL faces.
Lankinen goes from 'Plan B or C' to Plan A in a heck of a hurry.
If his injuries aren't yet 'chronic', we have to accept that we might getting 'close'. When he hits 30, it's hard to see any scenario where the injury absences don't just magically go away.
It obviously leaves the Canucks in tough spot. They've taken excellent goaltending for granted so long, it's going to be a tough transition to land in the same goalie swamp that most of the rest of the NHL faces.
Lankinen goes from 'Plan B or C' to Plan A in a heck of a hurry.
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