WC: TEAM USA

[usahockey22flyers]

Outside of those 2 years with Kaner leading the charge(outliers) I feel that overall most teams are struggling more than before to get good talent to consistently show up. And by before I am not saying 20 years ago, but even 5-8 years ago the rosters overall felt better than past few years.

Maybe I am wrong on this but I think pushing this tourney back into May has had an opposite effect than intended. I mean, players are competitive in the moment types, once they get a break or vacation can you really blame them to turn this down after resting a few weeks?

When players had to decide to come or not by the last 2-3 games of the season because you would be leaving maybe 5-7 days after it ended, I think the WC got better talent overall because players were still competing, on a high adrenaline wise, whatever..they said sure what the hell I will keep playing for another few weeks. And you still got players to show after 1st round loses..but once these guys get that time off most...most seem to say no of late. I dunno..

I also loved the 2009/2013 versions of the WC because they (USA Hockey) were vocal that WC participation if available, matters.

I’m cool with the World Cup of Hockey without the gimmicks, Team Europe and u23 NA lol… i’m Italian American, have lived in both countries… disrespectful to lump all those European teams together. Also U23 literally prevented the best on best. Just swings and misses from Gary.

 

[Friar85]

Guentzel, Tuch highlight U.S. roster for world championships

Jake Guentzel and Alex Tuch highlight the first five players to be named to the U.S. roster for the world championship.

theathletic.com

This is an interesting insight into the process for USAH. Also, notes Bonino and DeSmith are in.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Guentzel, Tuch highlight U.S. roster for world championships

Jake Guentzel and Alex Tuch highlight the first five players to be named to the U.S. roster for the world championship.

theathletic.com

This is an interesting insight into the process for USAH. Also, notes Bonino and DeSmith are in.

Good find. Great to see Guentzel confirmed. He, Garland, and Tuch are a great start to the offense. I don't mind DeSmith as one of the goalies either. It would be better to have a more high end #1 but he's fine for this tournament. Bonino is fine in a depth role as well.

 

[SK94]

Lyon or Copley could be a realistic and decent options.

 

[William H Bonney]

All solid adds so far. Interesting that Samuelsson and Greenway had accepted until injuries. Samuelsson is a loss. Greenway is not.

 

[Great99]

That article just need the most important thing, National pride , to play for your country, USA don't have that, they are so much divided

 

[garbageteam]

Yes, and the players will certainly want to go to Milan. Location matters a lot, it's a bit more difficult when it's in Asia compared to Europe or North America. 2022 would have happened if not for the COVID and China related difficulties.

2022 I really don't blame the league for and I crap on the NHL all the time. They seemed pretty committed to going even though when they made the call in September of 2021 it sounded like a bad idea already.

2018 was a total shitshow and set the precedent to them not going, after five straight Olympics, and really turned me off the NHL. There was no good reason to skip it.

 

[SK94]

Swedes just lost Pettersson and Dahlin because their federation thought their insurances are too much for them. What a World Championships these are...

 

[William H Bonney]

Swedes just lost Pettersson and Dahlin because their federation thought their insurances are too much for them. What a World Championships these are...

Wow. I hadn't been following their roster too much but they felt like the only nation who was getting their top guys to mostly say yes.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Dang so even Sweden doesn't care about the IIHF World Championship now (or just doesn't have enough money in the federation). Sad stuff.

 

[Kibe]

Dang so even Sweden doesn't care about the IIHF World Championship now (or just doesn't have enough money in the federation). Sad stuff.

No Dahlin didn't pass medical and Swedish federetaion was prepared to pay the insurance of Pettersson's current contract but Canucks decided they want them to pay insurance of a future contract that's not even signed yet.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

All solid adds so far. Interesting that Samuelsson and Greenway had accepted until injuries. Samuelsson is a loss. Greenway is not.

Shame about Samuelsson. He would have been a solid add on the blueline. Greenway is a dime a dozen player at this point. I'm honestly intrigued by what the final roster will look like.

 

[Elvs]

No Dahlin didn't pass medical and Swedish federetaion was prepared to pay the insurance of Pettersson's current contract but Canucks decided they want them to pay insurance of a future contract that's not even signed yet.

How you dare come in here with facts

 

[SK94]

Some reports that Guentzel is out. I guess he felt that team is not going to be good enough...

 

[jaro]

no guentzel

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Lovely. We can never have nice things. LOL.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He probably bumped his elbow or something

 

[AmericanDream]

Guentzel got massive paper cuts working on his thesis paper....

 

[William H Bonney]

Seems to always happen with the guys who are non-committal on their acceptances. They'll eventually find an excuse to not play, especially if the roster is up in the air so they're not excited about who they might be playing with. Guentzel has never bothered to show up for USAH. Not that we have best-on-best tournaments anymore, but if we do, hopefully they actually take that into consideration.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Seems to always happen with the guys who are non-committal on their acceptances. They'll eventually find an excuse to not play, especially if the roster is up in the air so they're not excited about who they might be playing with. Guentzel has never bothered to show up for USAH. Not that we have best-on-best tournaments anymore, but if we do, hopefully they actually take that into consideration.

Love him or hate him, Kane at least showed up to a few of these when he could

Remember RJ Umberger? Dude couldn’t be bothered to show up

 

[William H Bonney]

Love him or hate him, Kane at least showed up to a few of these when he could

Remember RJ Umberger? Dude couldn’t be bothered to show up

Umberger was the worst. When he was holding out the NTDP let him train with the program to stay in shape during his holdout. And then anytime USAH would ask him to return the favor, he wouldn't.

 

[AmericanDream]

Umberger was the worst. When he was holding out the NTDP let him train with the program to stay in shape during his holdout. And then anytime USAH would ask him to return the favor, he wouldn't.

Umberger just served us our food at Sonic drive thru...guess he should have showed up just once to play for his country lol..

 

[SK94]

I am sure that Connor, Wheeler and Hellebuyck can't wait to go to Worlds.

 

[William H Bonney]

I am sure that Connor, Wheeler and Hellebuyck can't wait to go to Worlds.

Come on down Mason Appleton, Larson Kuhlman, and Dylan Samberg

 

[AmericanDream]

Come on down Mason Appleton, Larson Kuhlman, and Dylan Samberg

I would take Samberg in a heartbeat. He has played so well last few months....but yes, your point is clearly received lol...