WC: Team Sweden 2019 roster

[VictorLustig]

Well, he needs to be asked first.

Well that should be a no-brainer.

 

[Star Ocean]

Swedish top6 forward depth is thin these days.

 

[EK47]

Swedish forward depth is thin these days.

Nah depth is pretty decent.

In the playoffs we currently have in the order I’d prefer them:

Nicklas Bäckström
Filip Forsberg
Gabriel Landeskog
Elias Lindholm
Viktor Arvidsson
William Nylander
Mikael Backlund
William Karlsson
Carl Söderberg
Gustav Nyquist
Andreas Johnsson
Patric Hörnqvist
Marcus Johansson

Those are 14 pretty decent forwards but only the first four maybe even the first three provide any real edge.

 

[theslatcher]

Swedish forward depth is thin these days.

lol

This is the best forward depth we've ever had. What we're missing is top-end forwards, not depth.

 

[Star Ocean]

lol

This is the best forward depth we've ever had. What we're missing is top-end forwards, not depth.

I meant top6 forwards, my bad

 

[theslatcher]

I meant top6 forwards, my bad

Out top 6 forwards depth is also the strongest we've ever had.

 

[EK47]

Out top 6 forwards depth is also the strongest we've ever had.

Exactly what we lack are the truly elite forwards.

 

[jfc64]

Exactly what we lack are the truly elite forwards.

Sure, but I feel our top forwards aren't exactly on a point hunt at the end of the seasons. I think we can describe many of our top forwards as "international" players. Landeskog and Hedman (defender) takes care of the competetiveness. Zibanejad can be used against top lines. A few others have exceptional skill or like Adrian Kempe will fit right in with the best although not producing a lot. And it's not the forwards god damn fault our top players are defenders!

 

[ZEBROA]

I feel Viktor Arvidssons impact are a little bit underrated. Realy like that player.

 

[Star Ocean]

Out top 6 forwards depth is also the strongest we've ever had.

Dunno. We just lost Sedins and zetterberg

 

[theslatcher]

Dunno. We just lost Sedins and zetterberg

And replaced those old players with young Pettersson, Johnsson, Lindblom, & Sundqvist.

What you're really saying is "our top 6 forwards depth if you remove players with injuries, the ones in the playoffs, & those without contracts is worse than if everybody would be available".

 

[EK47]

Sure, but I feel our top forwards aren't exactly on a point hunt at the end of the seasons. I think we can describe many of our top forwards as "international" players. Landeskog and Hedman (defender) takes care of the competetiveness. Zibanejad can be used against top lines. A few others have exceptional skill or like Adrian Kempe will fit right in with the best although not producing a lot. And it's not the forwards god damn fault our top players are defenders!

I don’t really think we disagree. I only said that we lack maybe 2-3 forwards at Bäckströms level. As far as defenders go, relative to the previous 2-3 seasons this one was kinda weak for swedish dmen, and despite that Gustafsson broke out big time and Hedman is still very much in the Norris conversation. Pretty remarkable defensemen, I agree but I don’t see how this has anything to do with there being a lack of high end forwards.

 

[jfc64]

I don’t really think we disagree. I only said that we lack maybe 2-3 forwards at Bäckströms level. As far as defenders go, relative to the previous 2-3 seasons this one was kinda weak for swedish dmen, and despite that Gustafsson broke out big time and Hedman is still very much in the Norris conversation. Pretty remarkable defensemen, I agree but I don’t see how this has anything to do with there being a lack of high end forwards.

Yes, you're right. Zibanejad may be there next year or so, hopefully. Lack of star forwards is the challenge in WC this year. Maybe a golden opportunity for a breakout! Bemström? Is he in the discussion?

 

[jfc64]

I feel Viktor Arvidssons impact are a little bit underrated. Realy like that player.

What does Kucherov do that Arvidsson doesn't?

 

[EK47]

Yes, you're right. Zibanejad may be there next year or so, hopefully. Lack of star forwards is the challenge in WC this year. Maybe a golden opportunity for a breakout! Bemström? Is he in the discussion?

Yeah, or perhaps even more likely; Elias Pettersson. I think at 25 Zibanejad is going to remain roughly what he is now for a few years which is a legit #1 C. I don’t know maybe if there is no NHL righty to play on the PP after round 1, although Garpenlöv seems to really enjoy playing lefties to the left and vice versa even if it is a powerplay, so well.. you know, that kinda eliminates the roll bemström would fill.

 

[VictorLustig]

You don't need superstar players to win but it certainly helps (and it's a lot more fun to watch).

 

[EK47]

You don't need superstar players to win but it certainly helps (and it's a lot more fun to watch).

In a sense you do, if we look at the winners of this tournament since at least the mid 2010’s, there has always been either enough really good depth or a few superstar players that have been relied upon heavily or really good all star depth for example Sweden last year.

 

[VictorLustig]

In a sense you do, if we look at the winners of this tournament since at least the mid 2010’s, there has always been either enough really good depth or a few superstar players that have been relied upon heavily or really good all star depth for example Sweden last year.

That's my point. Last year we won without a single superstar. By "superstar" I mean guys like McDavid, Kucherov, Kane, Crosby, Ovechkin. None of our current best forwards are close to that level. Sedins and Zetterberg in their absolute prime were probably the last superstar players on the forward position we've had.

 

[EK47]

That's my point. Last year we won without a single superstar. By "superstar" I mean guys like McDavid, Kucherov, Kane, Crosby, Ovechkin. None of our best forwards are close to that level.

Ofcourse but then you literally need a shit ton of depth which Sweden had. The third pairing last year had Mattias Ekholm on it who is one of the absolute best shut down dmen in the NHL and on top of that produces 35ish points a year.

 

[VictorLustig]

Ofcourse but then you literally need a **** ton of depth which Sweden had. The third pairing last year had Mattias Ekholm on it who is one of the absolute best shut down dmen in the NHL and on top of that produces 35ish points a year.

I don't think you need the depth we had last year to win. Fiala came less than a centimeter away from winning gold for the Swiss last year in OT. Their roster was significantly worse than ours and that game could have gone either way. It's a very short tournament.

 

[EK47]

I don't think you need the depth we had last year to win. Fiala came less than a centimeter away from winning gold for the Swiss last year in OT. Their roster was significantly worse than ours and that game could have gone either way. It's a very short tournament.

There are exceptions to every rule, I really don’t see that happening more then maybe once every 10 or so years.

Anybody know when the federation releases the first list with the statuses of NHL players?

 

[theslatcher]

There are exceptions to every rule, I really don’t see that happening more then maybe once every 10 or so years.

Anybody know when the federation releases the first list with the statuses of NHL players?

Last year they released the first list the 13th of April.

 

[Star Ocean]

Swedish coaches never pick players from ahl. But our best ahl players are better than fringe nhlers.

 

[jfc64]

Swedish top6 forward depth is thin these days.

I hear you but itching to come up with a top 6:

Landeskog - Bäckström - Nylander
Forsberg - Zibanejad - Pettersson


But days were bright in 2007-08, indeed:

1. Peter Forsberg (C) Colorado Avalanche 9 1 13 14 1.56 8 7
2. Alexander Ovechkin (LW) Washington Capitals 82 65 47 112 1.37 40 28
3. Sidney Crosby (C) Pittsburgh Penguins 53 24 48 72 1.36 39 18
4. Yevgeni Malkin (C) Pittsburgh Penguins 82 47 59 106 1.29 78 16
5. Daniel Alfredsson (RW) Ottawa Senators 70 40 49 89 1.27 34 15
6. Henrik Zetterberg (C) Detroit Red Wings 75 43 49 92 1.23 34 30
7. Jason Spezza (C/W) Ottawa Senators 76 34 58 92 1.21 66 26
8. Jarome Iginla (RW) Calgary Flames 82 50 48 98 1.20 83 27
9. Pavel Datsyuk (C) Detroit Red Wings 82 31 66 97 1.18 20 41
10. Joe Thornton (C) San Jose Sharks 82 29 67 96 1.17 59 18
11. Dany Heatley (LW/RW) Ottawa Senators 71 41 41 82 1.15 76 33
12. Vincent Lecavalier (C) Tampa Bay Lightning 81 40 52 92 1.14 89 -17
13. Ilya Kovalchuk (LW) Atlanta Thrashers 79 52 35 87 1.10 52 -12
14. Mike Ribeiro (C) Dallas Stars 76 27 56 83 1.09 46 21
15. Marián Gáborík (RW/LW) Minnesota Wild 77 42 41 83 1.08 63 17
16. Paul Stastny (C) Colorado Avalanche 66 24 47 71 1.08 24 22
17. Ryan Getzlaf (C) Anaheim Ducks 77 24 58 82 1.06 94 32
18. Mats Sundin (C) Toronto Maple Leafs 74 32 46 78 1.05 76 17
35. Henrik Sedin (C) Vancouver Canucks 82 15 61 76 0.93 56 6
36. Michael Nylander (C) Washington Capitals 40 11 26 37 0.93 24 -19
44. Daniel Sedin (LW) Vancouver Canucks 82 29 45 74 0.90 50 6

 

[ZEBROA]

Our D are great. And we can outwork anyone with all the hard working over average depth guys we got. But our top end talent still sucks. We need a P.Forsberg or Sundin. I dont think Pettersson are one of those kind of players. Time will tell.