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WC: Team Sweden 2019 roster part II

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theslatcher said:
Klingan has arrived.
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After the immediate success of playing Nylander - Wennberg - Hörnqvist as a line, it looks pretty much as a given to play Landeskog - Lindholm - Pettersson on the other offensive line. Putting Petterson on the wing seems like a fine try IMO.

It gives Pettersson less defensive responsibility and he's given a bit more room to do his magic. He just needs to move his feet a bit more and take note how Nylander got his scoring chances against Norway.

This also means both lines have two players who can take faceoffs on their strong side. I like these moves by Grönborg.
 
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Chimp said:


After the immediate success of playing Nylander - Wennberg - Hörnqvist as a line, it looks pretty much as a given to play Landeskog - Lindholm - Pettersson on the other offensive line. Putting Petterson on the wing seems like a fine try IMO.

It gives Pettersson less defensive responsibility and he's given a bit more room to do his magic. He just needs to move his feet a bit more and take note how Nylander got his scoring chances against Norway.

This also means both lines have two players who can take faceoffs on their strong side. I like these moves by Grönborg.
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Petterson was doing well with Honrquvist and Nylander. So why the change?


Pettersson was also taking D zone faceoffs last night and certainly appears to me that he was taking more of those that O zone so it doesnt seem like the move is a way to lessen his D responsibility.
 
Lonny Bohonos said:
Pettersson was also taking D zone faceoffs last night and certainly appears to me that he was taking more of those that O zone so it doesnt seem like the move is a way to lessen his D responsibility.
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Forward positions are getting increasingly irrelevant in hockey. Wingers often take draws on their strong side nowadays. Willy for example takes most of the draws on his line, despite being a winger. On rush defense, it's F1 that takes the center role until the puck is moved out of the zone or the line has time to regroup, whichever comes first. In the offensive zone, the line generally keeps all three forwards alternating as the high forward depending on who is available for a play.
 
Nithoniniel said:
Forward positions are getting increasingly irrelevant in hockey. Wingers often take draws on their strong side nowadays. Willy for example takes most of the draws on his line, despite being a winger. On rush defense, it's F1 that takes the center role until the puck is moved out of the zone or the line has time to regroup, whichever comes first. In the offensive zone, the line generally keeps all three forwards alternating as the high forward depending on who is available for a play.
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Thats news to me. Or maybe Im misunderstanding you.

Do forward postions not matter in the Seedish leagues? Because in the nhl thats not the case. This us evident come draft time when centers are rated highet all things equal.

As for first man back taking the middle or down low this is also nothing new.
 
Lonny Bohonos said:
Thats news to me. Or maybe Im misunderstanding you.

Do forward postions not matter in the Seedish leagues? Because in the nhl thats not the case. This us evident come draft time when centers are rated highet all things equal.

As for first man back taking the middle or down low this is also nothing new.
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Not the Swedish league, it's the kind of hockey the Swedish national team plays. Players constantly switch postions, it's not unusual to see a Swedish D-man cycling the puck behind the opponents' net. They're clearly instructed to go for it if they see an opening for a good cycle. Swedish D-men don't just guard the offensive blueline, they're told to be involved in the offense if they see an opening and to be mobile. It's up to the other players to keep it going and still be responsible if a turnover happens. They try to play as a five man unit, Soviet style, kind of. At least when it comes to the quality defensemen who can handle it.

"Just play hockey at the best you're good at" is Grönborg's philosophy and the NHL'ers love him, because he doesn't choke them with boring system play as much as other coaches. Grönborg loves to give his players specific roles, suited out of the team needs and their own strengths. The lines have roles, but the players are still allowed to play according to their specific strengths.

1st and 2nd line take offensive faceoffs and will try to score, while 3rd and 4th line will also try to score, or at least get an offensive faceoff from the defensive zone faceoff.

As for faceoffs, Nylander takes faceoffs on his "strong side", while Wennberg takes faceoffs on his "strong side". You want the faceoffs to end up on the D-man facing the open ice, with a backhand faceoff, so to speak. The same will happen on the 2nd line with Lindholm and Pettersson. I think Nithoniniel is correct.
Lonny Bohonos said:
Petterson was doing well with Honrquvist and Nylander. So why the change?


Pettersson was also taking D zone faceoffs last night and certainly appears to me that he was taking more of those that O zone so it doesnt seem like the move is a way to lessen his D responsibility.
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I don't think neither Nylander nor Petterson was doing well enough. He and Nylander are kind of the same players in a way, they're the most effective when they have the puck. Of course they could probably play very well together, but with the new additions it makes more sense to play Wennberg with Nylander. As for Hörnqvist/ Lindholm with Nylander or Pettersson, it's a coin flip. I think it'll be an interesting try to get both lines going.

Nylander - Wennberg - Hörnqvist and Landeskog - Lindholm - Pettersson looks good enough for me. Pettersson is more dangerous offensively than Lindholm, so it's better Lindholm takes more defensive responsibility.
 
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landeskog - elias - lindholm
nylander - wennberg - hörnqvist
bratt - kempe - lindblom
rasmussen - lander - kempe

not impressed by loui in 5 vs 5, but i like him in pp. lander better 4c than kruger.

oel - adam
ekh0lm - klingberg
gus - holm

holm is a uppgrade over hägg and m.pettersson
 
Eye of Ra said:
landeskog - elias - lindholm
nylander - wennberg - hörnqvist
bratt - kempe - lindblom
rasmussen - lander - kempe

not impressed by loui in 5 vs 5, but i like him in pp. lander better 4c than kruger.

oel - adam
ekh0lm - klingberg
gus - holm

holm is a uppgrade over hägg and m.pettersson
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Unfortunately by the NHL whining, you can't scratch a NHL'er. Or is it just that you can't send them packing? I agree Lander has been great and deserves a spot, he's red hot. If they go by the NHL doctrine, it'll be:
Landeskog - Lindholm - Pettersson
Nylander - Wennberg - Hörnqvist
Eriksson - Kempe - Lindblom
Bratt - Krüger - Kempe
Lander, Rasmussen

OEL - Larsson
Ekholm - Klingberg
Gustafsson - Pettersson
Hägg, Holm

It'll be tough scratches for Grönborg, except for the defense. Both Hägg and Pettersson haven't been good enough, they're a liability out there, especially against good teams, although I still say Hägg is worse than Pettersson. When it comes to QF's and forward, I hope Grönborg plays OEL - Larsson and Ekholm - Klingberg as much as their stamina can handle and gives Gustafsson some PP time, unless anyone of Hägg, Pettersson or Holm clicks with Gustafsson.
 
Star Ocean said:
What a team sweden got! Wow
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It's starting to look damn solid, yes. Two potentially dangerous lines, two very solid defensive lines, great quality defense and great goaltending - and depth. I hope Landeskog - Lindholm - Pettersson can really click against Austria. Then it'll be a really tough team to beat.
 
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Lander is a lot closer to 3C than 13F in my book. His experience shines through, I think he's been excellent. On big ice, he actually brings offense to the table aswell.

Keep in mind, you get to dress 20 skaters per game.
 
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A ton of depth which is good gives us plenty of opportunities to get Lindholm and Pettersson a chance to get going.
 
joe89 said:
Lander is a lot closer to 3C than 13F in my book. His experience shines through, I think he's been excellent. On big ice, he actually brings offense to the table aswell.

Keep in mind, you get to dress 20 skaters per game.
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Agreed. I’d much rather they sit Krüger or Mario Kempe before him. Shouldn’t count on him bringing offense against the stronger opponents though.
 
EK47 said:
Agreed. I’d much rather they sit Krüger or Mario Kempe before him. Shouldn’t count on him bringing offense against the stronger opponents though.
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I dunno, Kruger and Mario Kempe have both looked good on the 4th line, they forecheck hard and does solid defensive work. I'd rather see Lindblom sit, he hasn't looked good offensively or defensively.
 
Lampedampe said:
I dunno, Kruger and Mario Kempe have both looked good on the 4th line, they forecheck hard and does solid defensive work. I'd rather see Lindblom sit, he hasn't looked good offensively or defensively.
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I don’t agree at all he wins a ton of board battles and does a lot of small things right. He’s also money in front of the net or in the slot. I think he’s essentially a smarter more talented but slower Mario Kempe.
 
I think it was the wrong decision naming Holm on the roster and sending Nygård home. We would be just fine with 7Ds and i think Nygård was worth a shot. I'm a bit biased though :sarcasm:
 
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Pensionsraddare said:
I think it was the wrong decision naming Holm on the roster and sending Nygård home. We would be just fine with 7Ds and i think Nygård was worth a shot. I'm a bit biased though :sarcasm:
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Totally agree if Bratt is more injured than previously thought you might want Nygårds speed on the team going forward.
 
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