Team Finland WC 2023

[THE JAM]

we saw flashes what Rantanen and Kakko can do, at this level they are able to dominate as they wish. I'm positive that they will step up big time when qualification games start, there are no d-men in this tournament that can stop that.

But. Like people have said, defence is slow and has been bad so far.

Yep. Defence has been slow/bad and this will be the ultimate question getting into the medal games. But there is a chance that they will tighten that up:=

 

[THE JAM]

Everything else than gold = catastrophe.

Another Winland - Canada final game going into OT is ok too

 

[FinPanda]

Maybe there is a chance for Hintz.

 

[karhukissa]

Maybe there is a chance for Hintz.

Hintz and Kapanen playing short handed would be a bigger chance to score than concede against most of the teams. Man can only wish..

 

[Isola]

1 spot left, so we are waiting for either Hintz or Tolvanen.

Lines with Hintz:

Kapanen-Hintz-Rantanen
Hartikainen-Manninen-Kakko
Pesonen-Suomela-Armia
Oksanen-Björninen-Anttila

If Tolvanen is coming, it gets trickier. Almost forces Rantanen to play C.

Tolvanen-Rantanen-Kakko
Hartikainen-Manninen-Kapanen
Pesonen-Suomela-Armia
Oksanen-Björninen-Anttila

Suomela/Oksanen can be replaced with Lammikko/Sallinen

 

[karhukissa]

1 spot left, so we are waiting for either Hintz or Tolvanen.

Lines with Hintz:

Kapanen-Hintz-Rantanen
Hartikainen-Manninen-Kakko
Pesonen-Suomela-Armia
Oksanen-Björninen-Anttila

If Tolvanen is coming, it gets trickier. Almost forces Rantanen to play C.

Tolvanen-Rantanen-Kakko
Hartikainen-Manninen-Kapanen
Pesonen-Suomela-Armia
Oksanen-Björninen-Anttila

Suomela/Oksanen can be replaced with Lammikko/Sallinen

I wouldn't break that first line, they started to get some great chemistry against Germany. Put Hintz with Kakko and we have atleast two great lines able to create constantly.

 

[Mestaruus]

I'd put Hintz to the wing because he would arrive so late. Maybe Pesonen out, because someone has to make room. Pesonen didn't get a fair shot yet playing in the line up because he played just one game and that could be just adjusting to his line mates, but it is what it is.

Rantanen-Manninen-Hartikainen
Hintz-Suomela-Kapanen
Armia-Sallinen-Kakko
Lammikko-Björninen-Mörkö

Lammikko + Armia or Lammikko + Sallinen forms the second PK forward duo.

Sallinen has been a useful offensive piece so far, but someone has to make room for Hintz in the PP units, so Sallinen goes playing PK. Other option is to put Armia playing PK and keeping Sallinen in the PP unit. I actually think that realistically this is more likely to happen, because Jalonen doesn't want to change the first PP unit, which is working, so Sallinen might stay in the first PP unit, even over late arriving Hintz. Oksanen would be put out of the line up because I doubt that removing Mörkö from the line up is going to happen.

Suomela & Kapanen reunited, which I like as a duo. This line would have some skating speed for sure.

As for the next game against Sweden, I think Larmi should start, but this goalie battle is still very close.

 

[FiLe]

I'd put Hintz to the wing because he would arrive so late.

Translation: "I'd put Hintz to the wing because I don't want to see my boy Suomela out of the lineup."

 

[Shocker]

I'd put Hintz to the wing because he would arrive so late. Maybe Pesonen out, because someone has to make room. Pesonen didn't get a fair shot yet playing in the line up because he played just one game and that could be just adjusting to his line mates, but it is what it is.

Rantanen-Manninen-Hartikainen
Hintz-Suomela-Kapanen
Armia-Sallinen-Kakko
Lammikko-Björninen-Mörkö

Lammikko + Armia or Lammikko + Sallinen forms the second PK forward duo.

Sallinen has been a useful offensive piece so far, but someone has to make room for Hintz in the PP units, so Sallinen goes playing PK. Other option is to put Armia playing PK and keeping Sallinen in the PP unit. I actually think that realistically this is more likely to happen, because Jalonen doesn't want to change the first PP unit, which is working, so Sallinen might stay in the first PP unit, even over late arriving Hintz. Oksanen would be put out of the line up because I doubt that removing Mörkö from the line up is going to happen.

Suomela & Kapanen reunited, which I like as a duo. This line would have some skating speed for sure.

As for the next game against Sweden, I think Larmi should start, but this goalie battle is still very close.

If we somehow get Hintz, he will not be played on the f***ing wing, lmao.

 

[Mestaruus]

Translation: "I'd put Hintz to the wing because I don't want to see my boy Suomela out of the lineup."

We'll find a working combination with him and reuniting him and Kapanen is a good start for that. We'll have two potential super lethal offensive lines then.

If we somehow get Hintz, he will not be played on the f***ing wing, lmao.

It's easy to shout things like that, but I hope you realize how late he'd arrive. I'd do minimal changes in that case so we don't get eliminated in the QF stage. We'll get a dangerous opponent in the QF stage no matter what. Czech and Swiss are the ones I least want Finland to face in the QF game and then if one of the other options is Canada, that's not great either as they usually end up in the finals just like Finland does so that would truly be a game of death. We may have already lost our chances to get anything easier, because the USA loss happened and it's in USA's hands now how they'll do regarding the group win.

Now before Hintz would possibly arrive, we'd have time to reunite Suomela & Kapanen and adding Hintz to that later would be easy.

 

[LOFIN]

I hope you realize how late he'd arrive.

I don't give AF how late he would arrive. He's the #1 center Finland has, he's not playing on the wing, period. Even suggesting that is absurd.

 

[FiLe]

We'll find a working combination with him and reuniting him and Kapanen is a good start for that. We'll have two potential super lethal offensive lines then.

Right now, Suomela is the best center option we have for top-six (bar moving Rantanen to the middle, which probably isn't happening), but he is nothing more than that. And before he actually proves that he should be an immovable piece on this level you should stop treating him as such. It's getting a bit tiresome, to be honest.

 

[illone84]

I don't give AF how late he would arrive. He's the #1 center Finland has, he's not playing on the wing, period. Even suggesting that is absurd.

Dallas will win at home no problem. But I hope that Tolvanen joins the team in Tampere.

 

[Mestaruus]

My preference is not changing the centers and having working duos or full lines before Hintz would join, but I do say that if on the moment that Hintz would join there would be a problem with one of the top lines, then it would be much easier to add Hintz there as as center, but if everything is working really well the moment Hintz would join, I'd consider putting him to wing yes. If Hintz' first game would be a QF game and him playing center and his line wouldn't work because he's jet lagged, then we can say bye bye to the tournament, because we'd potentially get eliminated.

It would also be much easier to add him as a center if there would be an injury with one of the other forwards, but with no injuries and if things are going really well, why risk anything. He can play well in the wing.

And hopefully it would be Heiskanen they'd add instead of Hintz. Well let's see how that game 7 goes first.

 

[FiLe]

If Hintz' first game would be a QF game and him playing center and his line wouldn't work because he's jet lagged, then we can say bye bye to the tournament, because we'd potentially get eliminated.

And the probability of this scenario is close to nil. DAL-SEA will be decided on the night between Monday and Tuesday (May 15th-16th). The potential addition from that series, whether it's Hintz or Tolvanen, will make it to the game vs. Hungary on the 19th, at latest vs. Austria on the 20th.

 

[Mestaruus]

And the probability of this scenario is close to nil. DAL-SEA will be decided on the night between Monday and Tuesday (May 15th-16th). The potential addition from that series, whether it's Hintz or Tolvanen, will make it to the game vs. Hungary on the 19th, at latest vs. Austria on the 20th.

We don't know. Sometimes it takes a while with the team exit stuff. Maybe Lehtinen can expedite this process with his good connections to his former team, Dallas. It would be much easier to insert Heiskanen in who was great a year ago in Jalonen's team and that way more familiar with Jalonen at the moment.

 

[FiLe]

We don't know.

You know what else we don't know? That Suomela's performance in the next couple of games will actually warrant him a stapled spot in the roster. So before we do, all you're doing is cherry-picking stuff.

And I best emphasize that no one wants to see Suomela out of the lineup right now. (Save for Artorius Horus, perhaps.) But whether that holds true in the hypothetical future that sees Hintz joining is something - as stated - we don't know yet.

 

[illone84]

We don't know. Sometimes it takes a while with the team exit stuff. Maybe Lehtinen can expedite this process with his good connections to his former team, Dallas. It would be much easier to insert Heiskanen in who was great a year ago in Jalonen's team and that way more familiar with Jalonen at the moment.

I'd rather take heiskanen over hintz for the final spot. Like you said, was there last year and knows the system. We are missing that quarterback. Anyhow, although biased, I believe Dallas prevails in game 7. I just hope Tolvanen comes over to Tampere.

 

[The Cannon of Tesoma]

In the scenario Dallas loses Game 7 vs Vegas, less than 10 minutes will be wasted until txt-messages, calls, and whatapps from Finland overwhelm our Finnish Mafia.

Then, utterly disappointed Capos, Underbosses, and Mademen guys would 'vetää pitkää tikkua' for whom they send to the home.

Someone have to come, in this scenario. The code of the Family, and honor obliges.

 

[FiLe]

I'd rather take heiskanen over hintz for the final spot.

The reason we're talking about Hintz instead of Heiskanen can be seen by taking a good look at Heiskanen's face.

Of course, if he was somehow willing to come (and was allowed to come), he would be a huge add too, no question.

 

[The Cannon of Tesoma]

The reason we're talking about Hintz instead of Heiskanen can be seen by taking a good look at Heiskanen's face.

Of course, if he was somehow willing to come (and was allowed to come), he would be a huge add too, no question.

Nobody would in their right minds expect Heiskanen to come.

But, ultimately the decision is up to Heiskanen.

 

[Mestaruus]

I'd rather take heiskanen over hintz for the final spot. Like you said, was there last year and knows the system. We are missing that quarterback. Anyhow, although biased, I believe Dallas prevails in game 7. I just hope Tolvanen comes over to Tampere.

I wouldn't mind having Tolvanen in, but I do question if Jalonen would invite him despite of his strong game last night. Our second PP unit would certainly get better with Tolvanen in it.

Speaking of our second PP unit, did you guys notice that we didn't have a center in our second PP yesterday. It was because Suomela was out and Sallinen who was second line's center was locked to be in PP1. Kapanen was taking face offs.

 

[behemolari]

Personally I don't care about selections anymore they gonna win the gold anyway. Canada and Usa rosters are joke. Russia not there etc.

You cant be serious, there is many stronger builds than finland inc canada usa even germany

 

[FinPanda]

Hintz would be my #1 center if he comes, I wouldn't put him to winger

 

[stonec]

You cant be serious, there is many stronger builds than finland inc canada usa even germany

Trolling? I looked at the USA line-up and it has two players who did anything with the puck in the NHL: Garland and Tuch. Bonino played in the bottom lines and the rest are 4th line NHL players, AHL:ers or college players.

Germany has three NHL players and the rest are DEL. The only teams that compete with Finland on paper are Canada and Sweden. Losing against anyone else is unfortunately a big failure and when Russia isn't around either, the level is much lower than for example in 2019 when Finland won.