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Regal said:
What do people think of the potential for Parayko being taken for the left side since the right side is much deeper? He's played it in the NHL at times, and with Babcock no longer coach, I doubt handedness is as big of an issue, and Armstrong already knows what he's capable of. A lot of the lefty candidates either lack shutdown ability or size or both, and Parayko could be a really good option to bring some more balance to the team. Theoretically both he and Pie could play the left and allow another top righty to be in the top 6, but I doubt they'd want to put two players on their off hand.
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He's definitely a dark horse.

I don't think they would move Parayko to the left side. Instead, Pietro would move to the left because he's already done it for Team Canada.

Hypothetical defense:

Theodore - Makar
Pietro - Doughty
Chabot/Nurse - Parayko

Something like that. You can mix and match the names.

I think some of the other names deserve it over him but he does bring something different to the backend.
 
JackSlater said:
That all seems reasonable. With Couturier I'm not convinced of him on the wing. I remember him well from junior and have watched since and I don't recall ever seeing him on the wing. If he has wing experience then that's great, though I don't see his skills transferring that well. I wouldn't be surprised to see a seemingly random forward emerge as a serious contender from the list you mentioned. I admit that Horvat somewhat falls into that group for me as well.
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Why exactly are you adamant on him playing wing when he's a damn good center and someone like ROR has experience playing with wing and center? I'm not exactly seeing an issue with a line of ROR-Couturier-Stone
 
ORRFForever said:
You all make good points regarding Barzal. He is just so good in the playoffs. He is easily their best player and I don't mean from a stats POV. He drives the play and is ALWAYS dangerous.

As for Marner...

I am a Leaf fan and Marner, believe it or not, is my favourite player. I just cannot believe how error prone he is when the going gets tough. We've seen it for years.

I have said it before, if Marner plays in a "win or done" game, Canada will regret it.
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I see no reason why you can’t have a 4 line centre punch combo of McDavid, Mackinnon (he can play wing), Crosby and Barzal. No defence in the world could handle that.
 
after winning a gold medal with zero superstar players i wonder why so many try to build a team with the dream team approach. obviously you could win with the overwhelming talent. but only if the chemistry, work ethic and compete level is there as well. you might establish those easier with some lesser players but hungrier players in the line-up.
 
Sky04 said:
Why exactly are you adamant on him playing wing when he's a damn good center and someone like ROR has experience playing with wing and center? I'm not exactly seeing an issue with a line of ROR-Couturier-Stone
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I don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about putting Couturier at centre in the post that you quoted. I'm sure that the last time I did a projected roster Couturier was the fourth centre, and I'm aware of O'Reilly's time on the wing in the NHL and internationally.

TBF1972 said:
after winning a gold medal with zero superstar players i wonder why so many try to build a team with the dream team approach. obviously you could win with the overwhelming talent. but only if the chemistry, work ethic and compete level is there as well. you might establish those easier with some lesser players but hungrier players in the line-up.
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Probably because Canada's approach of having better players than every other team has been extremely successful at the best on best level. You still need preparation, cohesion, and players for certain roles but it's easier to bet on talent than it is to guess, on most cases, on chemistry.
 
snipes said:
Neither he nor Rielly will be and both were penciled in 2 years ago for spots on this team.

Guys like Theodore, Nurse, and Toews have vastly surpassed those two on the left side these past couple years. Even a young guy like Chabot as well is on the cusp but probably just misses the cut I’d have over those two.
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I would add Chychrun from Arizona as well if he can get better in his own zone, led defensemen in goal scoring
 
Watching the playoffs, it's amazing how many remaining team's BEST PLAYERS (not necessarily in terms of points, but dominance) are Canadian...

Boston - Bergeron and Marchand
NYI - Barzal
Montreal - Price and Suzuki
Winnipeg - the loss of Schefele was huge
Colorado - MacKinnon and Makar
Vegas - MAF and Stone
Tampa - Hedman or Kucherov are not Canadian, of course, but Point and Stamkos, Killorn are having wonderful series.

11 of whom will likely be on Team Canada.

Who else's players come thru like that? It certainly bodes well for us.
 
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MahomesforPresident said:
Barzal is definitely a lock.
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I disagree.

JackSlater said:
That all seems reasonable. With Couturier I'm not convinced of him on the wing. I remember him well from junior and have watched since and I don't recall ever seeing him on the wing. If he has wing experience then that's great, though I don't see his skills transferring that well. I wouldn't be surprised to see a seemingly random forward emerge as a serious contender from the list you mentioned. I admit that Horvat somewhat falls into that group for me as well.

As for Toews, I hadn't really considered him. The whole situation surrounding him is odd right now. If he returns and starts off on fire, which I think is fairly unlikely, then Hockey Canada would probably feel the pull there.
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Yeah, I can see a number of centers at the wing...O'Reilly (has played LW at the World Championships), Stamkos (from my viewings he plays almost exclusively on the wing now anyway), Point (ideally a center, but seems versatile enough offensively that he could adapt his game to the wing position), and even Scheifele (also ideally a center, but otherwise fits the mold of a Jeff Carter-type forward that can move up and down the wing, has a good shot, and can probably play effectively off of a playmaking center). I can't see Couturier thrive on the wing, but I could be wrong. He's a good enough offensive player, but I'd prefer our "shutdown" line to be capable of playing big minutes and tilting the ice in our favour offensively too. The Toews lines in 2010 and 2014 did exactly that, but Toews was more dangerous offensively than Couturier. That's why I don't necessarily see Couturier as a lock or even a probable selection; the guys he is up against (O'Reilly, Scheifele, maybe Point, maybe even Crosby) are more well-rounded offensively and Couturier could quite possibly be caught up in a numbers game at center.
 
TBF1972 said:
after winning a gold medal with zero superstar players i wonder why so many try to build a team with the dream team approach. obviously you could win with the overwhelming talent. but only if the chemistry, work ethic and compete level is there as well. you might establish those easier with some lesser players but hungrier players in the line-up.
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Team Canada has won the past 3 tournaments (2 Olympics + 1 World Cup) using this approach.

Overwhelming talent works because it opens up the ice for each star making them even scarier. You can also roll the lines to reduce their minutes as a way to keep them fresh.
 
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SpezDispenser said:
You haven't seen Quartet and to a lesser extent Buffalo Bill and the Indians or Sitting Bull's History Lesson?
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No... Are you saying he was NOT handsome in those movies?

I've never seen either.

Edit : You are right. Long hair does not suit him.
 
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Eternal Leaf said:
Team Canada has won the past 3 tournaments (2 Olympics + 1 World Cup) using this approach.

Overwhelming talent works because it opens up the ice for each star making them even scarier. You can also roll the lines to reduce their minutes as a way to keep them fresh.
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Yes. Keep this approach until it stops working.
 
ORRFForever said:
Watching the playoffs, it's amazing how many remaining team's BEST PLAYERS (not necessarily in terms of points, but dominance) are Canadian...

Boston - Bergeron and Marchand
NYI - Barzal
Montreal - Price and Suzuki
Winnipeg - the loss of Schefele was huge
Colorado - MacKinnon and Makar
Vegas - MAF and Stone
Tampa - Hedman or Kucherov are not Canadian, of course, but Point and Stamkos, Killorn are having wonderful series.

11 of whom will likely be on Team Canada.

Who else's players come thru like that? It certainly bodes well for us.
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Huh? Why would this be surprising in the least? Canadians make up the highest population in the NHL. I mean you purposely left off names like Slavin, Aho, Pastranak. 5 of the top 10 scorers in the playoffs are not Canadian either.
 
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Sky04 said:
Huh? Why would this be surprising in the least? Canadians make up by the highest population in the NHL. I mean you purposely left off names like Slavin, Aho, Pastranak. 5 of the top 10 scorers in the playoffs are not Canadian either.
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I never said it was surprising. I was just making the point to my fellow Canadians about how well many of our Olympians are doing. You can always do the same with your country.
 
TBF1972 said:
after winning a gold medal with zero superstar players i wonder why so many try to build a team with the dream team approach. obviously you could win with the overwhelming talent. but only if the chemistry, work ethic and compete level is there as well. you might establish those easier with some lesser players but hungrier players in the line-up.
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They got really lucky this year.

Not bringing star players can end very bad (1998) and the Olympics is an entirely different ballgame, teams literally throw out their best 20 something guys no matter what. Players also dont skip them to "rest" - seeing as how big they are.
 
Voight said:
They got really lucky this year.

Not bringing star players can end very bad (1998) and the Olympics is an entirely different ballgame, teams literally throw out their best 20 something guys no matter what. Players also dont skip them to "rest" - seeing as how big they are.
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i probably expressed myself badly. i don't advocate for a roster without any star players. but having players, which normally play 1st line and pp in the nhl, filling roles on a checking or energy line might not work better, than some lesser players, who accept those roles and go to work with pride and passion.
i fully agree, that mcdavid is a better fit for 1c than henrique.
 
TBF1972 said:
i probably expressed myself badly. i don't advocate for a roster without any star players. but having players, which normally play 1st line and pp in the nhl, filling roles on a checking or energy line might not work better, than some lesser players, who accept those roles and go to work with pride and passion.
i fully agree, that mcdavid is a better fit for 1c than henrique.
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They tried that experiment before. NHL role players to play that specific role at a NHL Olympics. It failed miserably. Did you not watch the 2006 Turin Olympics? I'm still picking up pieces of my TV I tossed at the wall watching that mess.

but, granted, there were a few more issues with that team contributing to that loss than just 2-3 roster players.
 
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Gold Standard said:
They tried that experiment before. NHL role players to play that specific role at a NHL Olympics. It failed miserably. Did you not watch the 2006 Turin Olympics? I'm still picking up pieces of my TV I tossed at the wall watching that mess.

but, granted, there were a few more issues with that team contributing to that loss than just 2-3 roster players.
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Which role players? Kris Draper is the only one I can think of. About the 2006 team, Canada just never was in sync and looked out of sorts in a disorganized way. I think we can all agree that Pronger playoff run in 06 was legendary but he looked lost at the Olympics. Just something missing
 
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