Olympics: Team Canada 2022 (Part 2)

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Stamkos is definitely putting his case out there. He's still an elite right handed sniper. Even if he comes solely as a PP specialist I wouldn't mind seeing him on this team.
I'll be rooting for him to make this team, guy has had some terrible luck in the past and seems to finally be healthy.
 
Despite the jokes, Kyrou is playing well. I don't think that he fills a useful role for the team, as O'Reilly does, but he is a good player.
Ya for sure if you watch him play the skill and skating are on display almost every shift. Probably won't make the team this year, but I could see him make the team in 2026. I don't think him producing at a point per game so far is a fluke or a hot streak, especially once you factor in he doesn't even get 17+ minutes most nights.
 
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Hyman has been discussed at length, but for another sleeper from the Oilers, when does RNH start receiving consideration? 19 points in 15 games but 18 of them are assists (lol). I wouldn't have him on the team of course but I think he's being slept on a bit. Only major difference with him and Hyman is that Hyman plays a style that's in shorter supply for this Olympic team. Otherwise RNH has just as strong if not a stronger case.
 
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Hyman has been discussed at length, but for another sleeper from the Oilers, when does RNH start receiving consideration? 19 points in 15 games but 18 of them are assists (lol). I wouldn't have him on the team of course but I think he's being slept on a bit. Only major difference with him and Hyman is that Hyman plays a style that's in shorter supply for this Olympic team. Otherwise RNH has just as strong if not a stronger case.
I believe most of Nugent - Hopkins production has been on the power play. Which won't be useful on team Canada, because he won't play on the PP. Ya just checked, 12 of his 19 points are on the PP this year and 32 of 54 over the past two years. Don't get me wrong I really like RNH and he was first overall pick for a reason, but he's a bit of a PP specialist.
 
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I’m getting 1998 Nagano vibes. And I’m seeing some similarities with what 2022 team Canada could be to that 1998 team Canada.

1998 had 2 generational centers, one past his prime, one in his prime in Gretzky and Lindros.
2022 has Crosby and mcdavid.

1998 had 34 yr old Patrick Roy. I know there are question marks on price but if he is indeed the starter, he is 34 yrs old.

1998 top 2 d men were aging but yet still elite Bourque 36 yrs old and Al Maccinnis 34. 2022 will see Pieterangelo 31 and possibly and likely if healthy doughty 31.

1998 Marc Crawford was the head coach, a guy who won his first cup 2 yrs pryer with an offensive loaded team in Colorado. Cooper coming off his first back to back cups with a Tampa team loaded with offensive talent.

1998 had its undersized winger in Theoren fleury. 2022 might have its fleury comparable in Mitch money Marner.

1998 third best center was Colorado’s joe sakic at the age of 28. Nate Mackinnon is the 3rd best center on 2022 Team Canada at 26.

2022 Team Canada likely has 2 way beasts R.OReilly and S.Couturier. In 1998 they had 2 way beasts K.Primeau and R.Brindamour.

2022 Team Canada may have Hyman as a gritty goal scorer who can check.
1998 had LW Shayne Corson as a comparison.

2022 will likely have 29 yr old RW 2 way offensive threat Mark Stone. In 1998 RW Mark Recchi was also 29.

now I understand Hyman and doughty are questionable at making the team, just used it for comparisons as the team hasn’t been finalized. But I just wanted to point out we might have another Nagano disaster on our hands. Hope I’m wrong.

Haha mate, this is the biggest stretch I've ever seen to try and draw a parallel.

“This team will have a RW who is 29 and so did the ’98 team”
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Every team that has won gold has also had veteran D men, late 20's wingers, "2 way beasts" and under sized players.

Parallels would be like if our best C and W (Lemieux & Kariya >> McDavid & Marchand) were injured and not available, if we took a wildly under qualified player (Zamuner >> Hyman) or if we were possibly running into the GOAT goalie at the top of his game. So far none of those are true and this team looks deadly.
 
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Ya for sure if you watch him play the skill and skating are on display almost every shift. Probably won't make the team this year, but I could see him make the team in 2026. I don't think him producing at a point per game so far is a fluke or a hot streak, especially once you factor in he doesn't even get 17+ minutes most nights.

I've watched a few St. Louis games this year and he is good. I'd be good with Kyrou on the B team at the moment. I even like his international play after he was key at the 2018 WJC. Maybe in the future, as you say, where he could provide some good speed on the wing.
 
Devon Toews looks amazing. I think he’s a top 3-4 Canadian born LHD as it is but to top it off he plays every day with Canada’s best RHD in Makar. I don’t see any way they leave him off the roster.
 
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I hope Canada will forget the winning receipt from 2010,2014 and build the team on all skills, no grit. That might leave other some chances.

However, im not totally confident on thw defensive group and obviously goaltender. USA has more balanced group IMHO. But still long way for anyone to beat Canada.
 
Huberdeau-Mcdavid-Mackinnon
Stamkos-Point-Stone
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Couturier-O'Reilly-Marner
Barzal

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Pelech-Ekblad
Chabot,Doughty

Price
Hart
Binnington
 
Huberdeau-Mcdavid-Mackinnon
Stamkos-Point-Stone
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Couturier-O'Reilly-Marner
Barzal

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Pelech-Ekblad
Chabot,Doughty

Price
Hart
Binnington
I’m fine with your lineup except marner. Don’t want him at all
 
Wouldn't Tom Wilson be better as a 4th liner than Marner?

It's kind of the same risk with both guys isn't it? Some people don't want Marner because of his shooting the puck over the glass issues, Wilson's issue is getting penalties for cheap shots.
 
It's kind of the same risk with both guys isn't it? Some people don't want Marner because of his shooting the puck over the glass issues, Wilson's issue is getting penalties for cheap shots.
Wilson has taken 6 penalties and drawn 8. He hasn't had any disciplinary issues so far this year.
 
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Stamkos - McDavid - Stone
Huberdeau - Mackinnon - O'Reilly
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Marner - Couturier - Point
Barzal

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Toews - Makar
Pelech - Ekblad
Weegar/Doughty

Rather than traditional "defensive" lines, I like the idea of giving each forward line at least one strong defensive player to help lighten the load. Stamkos' shot mixed with Mcdavid's play making and Stone's tenacity and defense would be crazy.

Mackinnon and O'Reilly played together on the Avs a ton and has a lot of natural chemistry. Huberdeau's vision is the perfect compliment to the line.

The Crosby line has already been shown to work and if that continues into this tournament its set and forget.

I hate having a guy like Point all the way down on the "4th" line but the forwards are so deep I'd say all 4 lines will get rolled a lot. Marner is a bit of a hot topic for some but the puck skills are undeniable.
 
Stamkos - McDavid - Stone
Huberdeau - Mackinnon - O'Reilly
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Marner - Couturier - Point
Barzal

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Toews - Makar
Pelech - Ekblad
Weegar/Doughty

Rather than traditional "defensive" lines, I like the idea of giving each forward line at least one strong defensive player to help lighten the load. Stamkos' shot mixed with Mcdavid's play making and Stone's tenacity and defense would be crazy.

Mackinnon and O'Reilly played together on the Avs a ton and has a lot of natural chemistry. Huberdeau's vision is the perfect compliment to the line.

The Crosby line has already been shown to work and if that continues into this tournament its set and forget.

I hate having a guy like Point all the way down on the "4th" line but the forwards are so deep I'd say all 4 lines will get rolled a lot. Marner is a bit of a hot topic for some but the puck skills are undeniable.

I agree with spreading out the elite defensive forwards. There are diminishing returns to putting them all on the same line and it's probably a good idea to give the defence a bit of help at all times since that area isn't going to be as strong as it's been.
 
Stamkos - McDavid - Stone
Huberdeau - Mackinnon - O'Reilly
Marchand - Crosby - Bergeron
Marner - Couturier - Point
Barzal

Theodore - Pietrangelo
Toews - Makar
Pelech - Ekblad
Weegar/Doughty

Rather than traditional "defensive" lines, I like the idea of giving each forward line at least one strong defensive player to help lighten the load. Stamkos' shot mixed with Mcdavid's play making and Stone's tenacity and defense would be crazy.

Mackinnon and O'Reilly played together on the Avs a ton and has a lot of natural chemistry. Huberdeau's vision is the perfect compliment to the line.

The Crosby line has already been shown to work and if that continues into this tournament its set and forget.

I hate having a guy like Point all the way down on the "4th" line but the forwards are so deep I'd say all 4 lines will get rolled a lot. Marner is a bit of a hot topic for some but the puck skills are undeniable.

Great team, I agree with the concept of splitting up the “defensive” forwards. None of them will drag a line down, I think there is a lot of potential synergies there.

I haven’t seen much of the defenseman, but I would say based on what I’ve watched, Chabot has played himself off the team. Which sucks, I thought he was going to be a rock for Canada.

I also think that Burns should be on this team. But he doesn’t get any media coverage or any props anymore for some reason.
 
Huberdeau-Mcdavid-Mackinnon
Stamkos-Point-Stone
Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron
Couturier-O'Reilly-Marner
Barzal

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Pelech-Ekblad
Chabot,Doughty

Price
Hart
Binnington
Weegar in for Pelech (just makes sense; if there’s any gap there at all it is more than counterbalanced by familiarity with Ekblad) and I like this lineup a lot.

Huberdeau-McDavid-MacKinnon

- First line is absurd. You could say overkill, but I could see McDavid-MacKinnon working much like McDavid-Draisaitl and Huberdeau is the perfect high-IQ, high-skill guy who doesn’t need the puck on his stick at all times to complement them.

Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron

- The second line needs no introduction. They will line up against other teams’ top lines and control the puck 80% of the time.

Stamkos-Point-Stone

- Stamkos looks revitalized as a play-driver this season, and Point and Stone are outstanding two-way forces. This line will easily win any matchup.

Couturier-O’Rielly-Marner

- Three of the best two-way players in the game, with Marner adding the truly elite offensive creativity to turn this “shut down” line into one that can score any shift.

Barzal: his skating, pure skill, and excellent two-way play fits anywhere.

Toews-Makar

- I honestly wish this was Byram-Makar from what I saw this year, but Toews is one of the most underrated defensemen in the NHL. This pair is utterly dominant in the Colorado, and in a short tournament that chemistry is invaluable.

Theodore-Pietrangelo

- Not the best start to the season for either, but these guys have each been top-10 Norris finalists the last couple of years, and the known chemistry is here as well.

Weegar-Ekblad

- Again, proven chemistry - it’s incredible we could have it on each of our d-pairings. These guys are again, simply one of the most dominant pairings in the NHL. Ekblad will be a Norris finalist this year, but Weegar is no sidekick.

Doughty may honestly be the best defenseman on the team if he continues the revitalization he showed at the start of this year, but finds himself in the 7D spot right now due to the chemistry aspect. Can play either side, too.

Price is Price; he’s more than proven he simply wills wins to happen when the stakes are high. Binnington and Hart are both having absolutely outstanding seasons and could find themselves Vezina finalists.

This team should stomp everyone. Seriously. I would take them over any team in the history of the Olympics. There is nothing even approaching a weaker link.
 
Great team, I agree with the concept of splitting up the “defensive” forwards. None of them will drag a line down, I think there is a lot of potential synergies there.

I haven’t seen much of the defenseman, but I would say based on what I’ve watched, Chabot has played himself off the team. Which sucks, I thought he was going to be a rock for Canada.

I also think that Burns should be on this team. But he doesn’t get any media coverage or any props anymore for some reason.

I was hoping that at least one of Nurse or Chabot would really step up this year but they've just been adequate. Chychrun is also unikely to survive the tire fire in Arizona.

Weegar in for Pelech (just makes sense; if there’s any gap there at all it is more than counterbalanced by familiarity with Ekblad) and I like this lineup a lot.

Huberdeau-McDavid-MacKinnon

- First line is absurd. You could say overkill, but I could see McDavid-MacKinnon working much like McDavid-Draisaitl and Huberdeau is the perfect high-IQ, high-skill guy who doesn’t need the puck on his stick at all times to complement them.

Marchand-Crosby-Bergeron

- The second line needs no introduction. They will line up against other teams’ top lines and control the puck 80% of the time.

Stamkos-Point-Stone

- Stamkos looks revitalized as a play-driver this season, and Point and Stone are outstanding two-way forces. This line will easily win any matchup.

Couturier-O’Rielly-Marner

- Three of the best two-way players in the game, with Marner adding the truly elite offensive creativity to turn this “shut down” line into one that can score any shift.

Barzal: his skating, pure skill, and excellent two-way play fits anywhere.

Toews-Makar

- I honestly wish this was Byram-Makar from what I saw this year, but Toews is one of the most underrated defensemen in the NHL. This pair is utterly dominant in the Colorado, and in a short tournament that chemistry is invaluable.

Theodore-Pietrangelo

- Not the best start to the season for either, but these guys have each been top-10 Norris finalists the last couple of years, and the known chemistry is here as well.

Weegar-Ekblad

- Again, proven chemistry - it’s incredible we could have it on each of our d-pairings. These guys are again, simply one of the most dominant pairings in the NHL. Ekblad will be a Norris finalist this year, but Weegar is no sidekick.

Doughty may honestly be the best defenseman on the team if he continues the revitalization he showed at the start of this year, but finds himself in the 7D spot right now due to the chemistry aspect. Can play either side, too.

Price is Price; he’s more than proven he simply wills wins to happen when the stakes are high. Binnington and Hart are both having absolutely outstanding seasons and could find themselves Vezina finalists.

This team should stomp everyone. Seriously. I would take them over any team in the history of the Olympics. There is nothing even approaching a weaker link.

I'm not a fan of bringing defencemen for chemistry reasons unless each defenceman is good enough to make the team on his own (Petrangelo and Bouwmeester in 2014) or they really do have demonstrable chemistry as opposed to simply being an elite defenceman with a good defenceman. A lot of the time those pairings get separated and you get the Seabrook stapled to the bench like in 2010. If Canada does simply have two pairings of elite defencemen with chemistry though, then that's simply a boon.
 
Ive read on instagram that Jon Cooper spoke to Tom Wilson about the Olympic team. Looks like Wilson is definitly a possibility. Kind of scary isn't it.
 
Team Canada doesn’t typically just pick the 12 best offensive forwards. They are very methodical in the construction of the team, and history has shown they have no problem adding grit in a best on best
 
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