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What should the Leafs do

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thusk said:
do you really want a parayko at 6.5M until 37, for a guy who will maybe struggle as much than a brodie when he will reach 33, 34?
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No, but people were happy signing JT to a contract everyone knew would be ugly in the last two years, overjoyed to give Nylander a contract that will be just as ugly on the backend, so why break with tradition?
 
rumman said:
No, but people were happy signing JT to a contract everyone knew would be ugly in the last two years, overjoyed to give Nylander a contract that will be just as ugly on the backend, so why break with tradition?
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I don't remember anyone being overjoyed.

Happy he signed for 8 years. Skeptical of the pricetag.
 
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rumman said:
maybe because you weren't around here when he signed?
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I was around when he signed, and I was quite happy about it.

With league revenues forecasted to grow in leaps and bounds the $11 million cap hit would be under 10% before the 7 years expired, it was a reasonable risk. Nobody could have predicted the worldwide epidemic that subsequently tanked the cap.

Anyone claiming otherwise is being disingenuous.
 
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The Shrike said:
I was around when he signed, and I was quite happy about it.

With league revenues forecasted to grow in leaps and bounds the $11 million cap hit would be under 10% before the 7 years expired, it was a reasonable risk. Nobody could have predicted the worldwide epidemic that subsequently tanked the cap.

Anyone claiming otherwise is being disingenuous.
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we didnt need him though regardless of price the price should have further scared us away though
 
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The Shrike said:
I was around when he signed, and I was quite happy about it.

With league revenues forecasted to grow in leaps and bounds the $11 million cap hit would be under 10% before the 7 years expired, it was a reasonable risk. Nobody could have predicted the worldwide epidemic that subsequently tanked the cap.

Anyone claiming otherwise is being disingenuous.
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The idea was to make a couple of deep playoff runs before these last 2 years of his contract where we knew his play would fall off. The team failed. Now we are stuck with him, but with no prior playoff success to at least show for it. Now the team has to make a run with him being an anchor.
 
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I’m all aboard the Will Borgen train…

All Reilly needs is a reliable physical RHD, like Schenn was for them last year. Does not matter that he is more of a 4/5 than a true top 4. Probably doesn’t cost that much and is signed through next year. Best of all he is still the same age as Nylander, if he’s a fit he can probably be signed for decent term through his prime at a reasonable cap hit.

Other than that, a couple 4th liners and call it a day.

Or swing for the fences and go for Saros/Necas if they truly are available
 
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thewave said:
I don't see how this team wins. They may entertain but I look at JT and the lack of depth and speed compared to these contenders. I just dont see it right now because the cap and depth needs sorted out.
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I'm still not sure I see who these other great "contenders" are. I understand Florida. I can even buy the Rangers, but don't try to sell me Boston, Carolina, or any other Eastern conference team. I get Vegas if Stone returns. I get Colorado. You can even sell me on Vancouver, but that's pretty much it. I'm not buying Winnipeg or Dallas. Mostly, it just looks like a coin flip amongst 4 or 5 teams. Add what you can within reason and see if you can crack into that group.
 
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Evilhomer said:
I'm still not sure I see who these other great "contenders" are. I understand Florida. I can even buy the Rangers, but don't try to sell me Boston, Carolina, or any other Eastern conference team. I get Vegas if Stone returns. I get Colorado. You can even sell me on Vancouver, but that's pretty much it. I'm not buying Winnipeg or Dallas. Mostly, it just looks like a coin flip amongst 4 or 5 teams. Add what you can within reason and see if you can crack into that group.
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What exactly have we done to make you think we are actually a contender in the playoffs?
 
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TMLife17 said:
What exactly have we done to make you think we are actually a contender in the playoffs?
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I think the Leafs are probably in that Boston/Winnipeg/Dallas group. But the playoffs are pretty random, so I'm not sure you could look at this season and point to a definitive 2 or 3 teams that are miles better than the rest. Heck, even when that happens (like last year with Boston), it usually doesn't work out either. Again, no one is saying that the Leafs should sell every draft pick and prospect they have for some magic beans. Add a defenseman or two, and maybe a depth centre, and take your chances.
 
Evilhomer said:
I think the Leafs are probably in that Boston/Winnipeg/Dallas group. But the playoffs are pretty random, so I'm not sure you could look at this season and point to a definitive 2 or 3 teams that are miles better than the rest. Heck, even when that happens (like last year with Boston), it usually doesn't work out either. Again, no one is saying that the Leafs should sell every draft pick and prospect they have for some magic beans. Add a defenseman or two, and maybe a depth centre, and take your chances.
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Why are we in a group with Boston/Winnipeg/Dallas at all? I'm asking what we have done to garner such respect in your eyes.
 
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Evilhomer said:
I'm still not sure I see who these other great "contenders" are. I understand Florida. I can even buy the Rangers, but don't try to sell me Boston, Carolina, or any other Eastern conference team. I get Vegas if Stone returns. I get Colorado. You can even sell me on Vancouver, but that's pretty much it. I'm not buying Winnipeg or Dallas. Mostly, it just looks like a coin flip amongst 4 or 5 teams. Add what you can within reason and see if you can crack into that group.
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I would agree with this.
 
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If Nashville fall out of a playoff spot (they're currently 4th in their div, and 8th in the west, on the edge), and become deadline sellers, I'd honestly be pretty interested in bringing Luke Schenn back. He had an injury to start the season, but has been healthy since. Living on the west coast, have caught a handful of Preds games, and to me he looks like the same player as last year - very physical, strong defensively, make simple but fine plays with the puck. And he was SUCH a good player for us last year, just an excellent fit with Rielly.

I don't imagine he'd cost too much? Something like this would probably get it done?

To Nashville: Minten
To Toronto: Schenn with 50% retention ($1.375 AAV this year and the next 2)

Or if he could be had for something like Hirvonen and a 3rd, even better, but personally I'd do Minten for Schenn if there's 50% retention. Having two dependable vet dmen at dirt cheap prices due to retention (McCabe and Schenn) would be really nice for the cap squeeze next year.
 
ponder said:
If Nashville fall out of a playoff spot (they're currently 4th in their div, and 8th in the west, on the edge), and become deadline sellers, I'd honestly be pretty interested in bringing Luke Schenn back. He had an injury to start the season, but has been healthy since. Living on the west coast, have caught a handful of Preds games, and to me he looks like the same player as last year - very physical, strong defensively, make simple but fine plays with the puck. And he was SUCH a good player for us last year, just an excellent fit with Rielly.

I don't imagine he'd cost too much? Something like this would probably get it done?

To Nashville: Minten
To Toronto: Schenn with 50% retention ($1.375 AAV this year and the next 2)

Or if he could be had for something like Hirvonen and a 3rd, even better, but personally I'd do Minten for Schenn if there's 50% retention. Having two dependable vet dmen at dirt cheap prices due to retention (McCabe and Schenn) would be really nice for the cap squeeze next year.
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Schenn is worth a 4th rd pick at best, with retention. Otherwise with that contract, they would need to add something just to give him away
 
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GoonieFace said:
Schenn is worth a 4th rd pick at best, with retention. Otherwise with that contract, they would need to add something just to give him away
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It's hard for me to gauge how much the retention would be worth. I agree he'd probably have slight negative value without retention, but 2.5 years of 50% retention ($1.375 AAV) could be worth a fair bit. I personally think he's still about the same dman as last year, who was a very useful dman for us.
 
ponder said:
It's hard for me to gauge how much the retention would be worth. I agree he'd probably have slight negative value without retention, but 2.5 years of 50% retention ($1.375 AAV) could be worth a fair bit. I personally think he's still about the same dman as last year, who was a very useful dman for us.
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They got him for a 3rd round pick last year, so no way he is worth more than that.
 
Evilhomer said:
I'm still not sure I see who these other great "contenders" are. I understand Florida. I can even buy the Rangers, but don't try to sell me Boston, Carolina, or any other Eastern conference team. I get Vegas if Stone returns. I get Colorado. You can even sell me on Vancouver, but that's pretty much it. I'm not buying Winnipeg or Dallas. Mostly, it just looks like a coin flip amongst 4 or 5 teams. Add what you can within reason and see if you can crack into that group.
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Winnipeg and Dallas might surprise you……
 
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