Confirmed with Link: [TBL/TOR] Lightning sign and trade Darren Raddysh (8yrs, $8.5AAV) for a 2026 5th rd pick

[Major4Boarding]

Their PP is going to be lethal if healthy

As of right now, the only thing I’m worried about is him fragging our already-fragile D with his 100 mile an hour bombs

 

[The Gongshow]

Yeah says the fan who wants to invest 70M into a 1 year wonder. Genius, you should be running a team.

Brother, relax. It's not that serious.

8 - 8.5 is fine enough money with the cap rising. The term is 3 years too many though for sure.

...I should run the team though! That would be fun

 

[The Gongshow]

As of right now, the only thing I’m worried about is him fragging our already-fragile D with his 100 mile an hour bombs

RIP Cernak

 

[RSchmitz]

That's basically what I'm saying too? Your comment that BriseBois somehow deserves criticism for not getting more, or that we "helped" Toronto is what I find off base and disagree with.

Edit: He either signs with Toronto on July 1 or we get a 5th for him to accommodate an 8th year... pretty simple and a no brainer for JBB. Unless you think that 8th year is somehow gonna bite us in the ass. You said it yourself, he was set on Toronto.

Ok, because I am saying that he shouldn't have done it

 

[RSchmitz]

And?

and he shouldn't have

 

[Todd1a]

At this point, im dumping serious money on the top forward line. Patch up the D with a budget UFA or trade.

I'd rather do that than give $8-9 to Carlson.

There talking about Carlson getting 10 per year

 

[RussianGuyovich]

Another L for JBB.

JBBL

 

[Sky04]

There talking about Carlson getting 10 per year

They're talking about him at 8....... 8x2 years for a proven 60 point guy or 8.5x8 years for a guy who hit 50 points once. Hmm.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Yeah, I'm almost starting to think you go all in on creating a great forward group and take a few cheap dart throws at the defense. The available options are far from guaranteed returns and they're not inexpensive bets to make. And almost none of them are permanent solutions.

 

[atlanticobserver]

They're talking about him at 8....... 8x2 years for a proven 60 point guy or 8.5x8 years for a guy who hit 50 points once. Hmm.

Only problem is that the market for Carlson is going to be so competitive now. He might even get more than that. Honestly, if I'm JBB and I really want John Carlson, I'm sending the 5th the Leafs gave up this morning to Anaheim in a hurry.

 

[Point21]

Good on JBB for getting another late round pick to work his magic in the draft. After the rumor came out of the 5x5.75m offer came out we all knew he wasnt gonna come back. Raddysh got the bag and for the first time in how many years, we have more than 10m in cap space for free agency (although a very weak UFA class). Work a trade for a young RHD like Nemec and sign Laine for the PP

 

[LTIR Trickery]

They must be really confident that Hedman is coming back and will give them a few more good years.

 

[The Gongshow]

They must be really confident that Hedman is coming back and will give them a few more good years.

Heddy is getting PP1 back fotsure, but i really hope he isnt getting line 1 minutes ever again

 

[Sky04]

Only problem is that the market for Carlson is going to be so competitive now. He might even get more than that. Honestly, if I'm JBB and I really want John Carlson, I'm sending the 5th the Leafs gave up this morning to Anaheim in a hurry.

Pierre LeBrun of The Athletic: Anaheim Ducks pending UFA defenseman John Carlson will be going to free agency. The sides did have some talks, but agent Rick Curran said that Carlson wants to go back East.

“I’ve had good discussions with Pat. I told him how much John enjoyed his time in Anaheim. But his preference is to return and play in the East, closer to family and the familiarity with it. Pat was naturally disappointed but completely understood.”

There’ll be four or five teams interested. The Capitals and Carlson had been discussing a two-year, $18 million deal before the Caps dealt him at the deadline. The Tampa Bay Lightning make sense if Darren Raddysh leave in free agency.

John Carlsson will prioritize winning over money. Tampa may be a fit​

Marco D’Amico: Pending UFA defenseman John Carlsson will obviously be looking for a good salary, but have heard that winning will be more of a priority for him.

I think he has a destination in mind and will make it work for that team, if he's prioritizing being on a stronger team.

 

[atlanticobserver]

I think he has a destination in mind and will make it work for that team, if he's prioritizing being a stronger team.

It would be nice, but I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[bov]

Ok, because I am saying that he shouldn't have done it

I guess I'm confused.

It seems pretty clear that either A: Raddysh hits the market and signs with Toronto or B: You get a 5th round pick for him to sign with Toronto. I'm still not sure what you take issue with. We are literally gaining an asset from a division rival instead of losing him to that same rival for nothing.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I think he will. They still have problems, but that was the biggest.

I just don't think there's a good light to see this in. We have a bunch of money to spend on the worst UFA class in ages. I think we just took one big step closer to the necessity of a rebuild.

Raddysh isn't going to make up the problem Toronto's defense has. They are older and slow. Raddysh has a bomb shot and can defend but he isn't going to be that transition defenseman they have needed for 15 years. People thinking he is going to be a 65 point defenseman on Toronto? The f*** is that? He is only going to lose 5 points not playing with Kuch? The reason Raddysh was effective on our PP was because we didn't have any good shot on it. Toronto has Nylander and Matthews, there is not enough puck to get around to Raddysh.

He is going to sit around 40-50 points and within 2 years be the next whipping boy for Toronto because they didn't do anything remotely decent to surround him in a spot to succeed.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

I think he has a destination in mind and will make it work for that team, if he's prioritizing being on a stronger team.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Absolute worse case scenario is dumping $10M into Carlson and then JBB calling it a day. Him coming out in the presser saying the forwards have more than enough depth, and hes expecting a bounce back from Point.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

He had a couple of prior chances to get him signed long term, he just kept giving him shorter deals for cheap. And you cant blame him because up until 24-25 he wasnt even regular. I think how cap strapped we were he didn't want to do something like a Paul contract to Raddysh because that uncertainty.

When and why would we lock him up? When he had 6 goals? This is the dumb part, Raddysh didn't even start at the beginning of the season, Heddy goes down and he goes on an absolute heater from December. Soon as that heater started, his agent probably shut down any talk of an extension. The heater continues and he knows this is the only chance Raddysh has to cash in.

We weren't going to lock in Raddysh to a long-term deal prior to any of this because he was already older and had shown that he was a serviceable defenseman with a good shot that never got used.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Boooo! This sucks.

Good luck to Raddy!



Edit: I need a new avatar uh.

 

[Webster]

I have a feeling this Raddysh contract could bite the Leafs sooner or later, they took the bait. High risk here, this is a guy who started last season as a healthy scratch

 

[DFC]

Raddysh isn't going to make up the problem Toronto's defense has. They are older and slow. Raddysh has a bomb shot and can defend but he isn't going to be that transition defenseman they have needed for 15 years. People thinking he is going to be a 65 point defenseman on Toronto? The f*** is that? He is only going to lose 5 points not playing with Kuch? The reason Raddysh was effective on our PP was because we didn't have any good shot on it. Toronto has Nylander and Matthews, there is not enough puck to get around to Raddysh.

He is going to sit around 40-50 points and within 2 years be the next whipping boy for Toronto because they didn't do anything remotely decent to surround him in a spot to succeed.

I would say 50-60. Which is fine for 8m, and he will improve their top pair. He's going to be fine there.

We are now hoping Hedman can turn back the clock and regain the step he lost two years ago. Or giving Carlson double digits. It's a bad position. Hard to see a way that it's not a significant step backward.

 

[Todd1a]

They must be really confident that Hedman is coming back and will give them a few more good years.

They better be if they let raddy walk because we had the money just didn’t want to pay him

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I would say 50-60. Which is fine for 8m, and he will improve their top pair. He's going to be fine there.

We are now hoping Hedman can turn back the clock and regain the step he lost two years ago. Or giving Carlson double digits. It's a bad position. Hard to see a way that it's not a significant step backward.

Lets take your top end, you think Raddysh only loses 10 points playing in Toronto? He's not going to be shooting most of the time. That's Matthews. Nylander and McKenna will be dishing the puck. It doesn't seem reasonable to think he only loses 10 points from not being the primary shooter.

I think 50 is near his top end. Barring injuries to Knies or Matthews as the finishers.

Giving anyone double digits is a bad idea. But Carlson only being around for 1/2 years isn't bad. Carlson had 10 less points than Raddysh las year and has played more games in the last 3 years than Raddysh. Carlson over the last 3 years has had more points than Raddysh too. Yeah Carlson is old, but we need him exactly for 2 things, Shoot the Puck from the point on the PP and be able to pass the puck up the ice properly. Both of which he can still do at a high level. A short term deal is the most ideal situation for the team. NTC's open up, Kuch and Vasy deals. Tying up 8.5M for 8 years for 30 year old Raddysh wouldn't have been ideal. I would make the same argument for Tuch.