Proposal: Tb - Tor

[JohnnyO]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

With his size and defensive limitations, I'm pretty sure Babcock will have him playing on the wing this season and quite likely going forward.

I'm pretty sure Babcock has said Nylander will be playing with Matthews so he likely will play wing this season. That being said I think long term we hope he pans out as a number 2 centre. Also I don't think size is a concern with him.

 

[Advanced stats]

Kucherov is like the dream scenario for how Nylander turns out right? one of the best wingers in the league. Why would TB take this? maybe protect a different player in expansion I guess

Dream scenario for Nylander is a 80 point center as opposed to a 65 point winger.

 

[LeafsNation149]

Neither team does it.

 

[Sundinisagod]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

With his size and defensive limitations, I'm pretty sure Babcock will have him playing on the wing this season and quite likely going forward.

Anybody who's been watching him knows he better suited to centre. Sure, he'll start out at wing, like many before him. As for the size comment, you maybe had a point in 2014. Pretty terrible insight overall on your part.

 

[DFC]

How good was Kucherov when he has Nylander's age?

Does he have Nylander's hair?

These are questions that needs to be answered.

No one has Nylander's hair. Nylander's hair makes him the best prospect ever. Nylander's hair is the greatest thing his father ever produced. He sacrificed his own for the sake of his son's.

 

[DFC]

Dream scenario for Nylander is a 80 point center as opposed to a 65 point winger.

Kucherov is also a point-per-game playoff performer, with a knack for heroics. TB fans barely think about the regular season with Kucherov (don't be surprised if he tops 75 or 80 points this year though, given that both of his linemates spent big chunks of last season injured). It's all about the playoffs. Imagine Phil Kessel with a much, much better defensive game. (Kucherov is no Selke candidate, but his defense compares favorably to most offense-first wingers in the league.)

What it comes down to is Kucherov is our best forward right now, no question. Leaf fans probably believe they're going to wind up with 2-3 forwards better than him, but it's unlikely to happen. (I mean, you're talking about your 2C scoring 80 points. If that happens, you're looking at a dynasty, so congrats.) TB is a very, very good team, and Kucherov is easily the most dangerous offensive player on it. Drouin miiight change that, but Kuch has shown signs that he's yet to reach his ceiling.

 

[tjs*]

Yzerman laughs and hangs up the phone.

 

[Mr Hockey*]

Its possible Nylander gets close to Kucherov this season in points as a center, leafs will pass on this deal.

 

[The Macho King]

Its possible Nylander gets close to Kucherov this season in points as a center, leafs will pass on this deal.

 

[Leafidelity]

No thanks. Rather have a Matthews/Nylander tandem down the middle.

 

[Mr Hockey*]

draft+3? - Kucherov first season, winger - 52gp 9g 9a 18pts
draft+2 - Nylander first season, "center" - 22gp 6g 7a 13pts

 

[Gavy]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

With his size and defensive limitations, I'm pretty sure Babcock will have him playing on the wing this season and quite likely going forward.

Wow. This is incredible. You literally have no idea what you're talking g about but it doesn't stop you.

Wow. This is incredible

 

[Big Easy]

draft+3? - Kucherov first season, winger - 52gp 9g 9a 18pts
draft+2 - Nylander first season, "center" - 22gp 6g 7a 13pts

I may be crazy but theses numbers seem to favour Nylander.

 

[Jeebs]

draft+3? - Kucherov first season, winger - 52gp 9g 9a 18pts
draft+2 - Nylander first season, "center" - 22gp 6g 7a 13pts

There's always a chance a prospect doesn't meet their potential, but currently, Nylander's ceiling is much higher than where Kucherov is at.

For those commenting about Nylander as a center, he has excelled at center at literally every level he has played at including against Men. There's a good chance he plays wing this year but so do a lot of young centers. Even as a winger he projects better than Kucherov. He might not, but that is a risk I am easily willing to take.

 

[DFC]

No thanks. Rather have a Matthews/Nylander tandem down the middle.

This is the real reason for Leafs fans to reject. Has nothing to do with who will be better. Having that 1-2 is huge. TB fans reject because we already have a 1-2 punch down the middle, and because Kucherov is our best forward.

 

[DFC]

There's always a chance a prospect doesn't meet their potential, but currently, Nylander's ceiling is much higher than where Kucherov is at.

For those commenting about Nylander as a center, he has excelled at center at literally every level he has played at including against Men. There's a good chance he plays wing this year but so do a lot of young centers. Even as a winger he projects better than Kucherov. He might not, but that is a risk I am easily willing to take.

You're talking about the guy who's likely to be your third best forward being better than the best forward on the TB Lightning, a team that has become a perennial contender in the East. That means you'll have three players better than Stamkos too (Kucherov is better than Stamkos). Congrats. Every cup in the foreseeable future is going to Toronto.

 

[Gavy]

Players hit their strides at different times. Leafs would be lucky if Nylander became as productive as Kucherov.
Nylander could smash all of Kucherovs rookie records and it won't mean he will be better than Kucherov is now.

 

[Gavy]

You're talking about the guy who's likely to be your third best forward being better than the best forward on the TB Lightning, a team that has become a perennial contender in the East. That means you'll have three players better than Stamkos too (Kucherov is better than Stamkos). Congrats. Every cup in the foreseeable future is going to Toronto.

Wow. Talk about being dramatic

 

[Jeebs]

You're talking about the guy who's likely to be your third best forward being better than the best forward on the TB Lightning, a team that has become a perennial contender in the East. That means you'll have three players better than Stamkos too (Kucherov is better than Stamkos). Congrats. Every cup in the foreseeable future is going to Toronto.

Kucherov's career high is 66 pts... That's good, but you might want to calm down a little.

 

[CDP]

Not really sure what the appeal is for either team here...

 

[go4hockey]

Its possible Nylander gets close to Kucherov this season in points as a center, leafs will pass on this deal.

You seem to be living in fantasy land. Hope it's treating you well.

 

[Menzinger]

Easy no from the Leafs.

Zero motivation to make this trade - especially since Nylander is being developed as a centre.

 

[Menzinger]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

With his size and defensive limitations, I'm pretty sure Babcock will have him playing on the wing this season and quite likely going forward.

He's played centre his entire pro career - and Babcock has said he'll be sharing centre duties with Matthews on the same line, at least to start this season.

He's average defensively and his size is fine. You don't have an argument here

 

[Gavy]

You seem to be living in fantasy land. Hope it's treating you well.

I'm gonna remember this post. I'm confident Nylander will get over 50 pts this year. I think he will get more points than Matthews and Marner

 

[DFC]

Kucherov's career high is 66 pts... That's good, but you might want to calm down a little.

Yeah, except when the playoffs come around, he's right there with the top players in the game.

I don't believe Kucherov is a top-ten or even top-twenty player in the league. But he's pretty obviously the best forward on the Lightning right now. Just saying, if you're predicting your third best forward is going to be clearly better than the Lightning's best forward, and a guy who's been a playoff hero in back-to-back years, that's pretty hefty.