Rumor: Tarasenko

[Brock Anton]

No shit, Gold.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Fake account, no?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Is he hedging or trying to be diplomatic there?

I’m not saying your reporting is wrong, but it’s not right.

 

[LakeLivin]

I'm willing to be patient for the Karlsson and Tarasenko news. Maybe Pittsburgh gets him, but I don't know, man. I'm pretty sure that Karlsson would prefer to go to a team like Carolina that is 100% in the Cup window rather than a club that is desperately trying to get out of a pickle that a prior regime got into. When NMCs are involved, trades become more about what the player is willing to approve rather than about the quality of return.

Yep. This is SJ's Jeff Skinner moment. The question is, which flavor of Pu will they take back?

SJ very well may have intentionally screwed with us on the Meier trade. At this point its very possible that they are stringing us along.

Imo they used us as a stalking horse on the Meier trade to get a bit more from NJ who they were giving the right of last refusal to because of the really close interpersonal relationships among the respective front offices. I really don't think they did it to screw the Canes, and would have no incentive to string us along this time. If there's anything weird going on I suspect it would be Waddell squeezing SJ in retribution if he knew the Canes were Karlsson's destination of choice.

 

[whiskers]

could management be trying for a 3 way deal the 2 team could retain 50% of Karlsson salary and we have him at 2.850 000 , i dont mind getting rid of 2 players like suzuki ,nadeau and 2 first round picks to acheive this , i would keep pesce , trade chatfield for TDA Noeseen back to AHL where he belongs ,and of course have tarasenko signed somehow

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

could management be trying for a 3 way deal the 2 team could retain 50% of Karlsson salary and we have him at 2.850 000 , i dont mind getting rid of 2 players like suzuki ,nadeau and 2 first round picks to acheive this , i would keep pesce , trade chatfield for TDA Noeseen back to AHL where he belongs ,and of course have tarasenko signed somehow

Bro c'mon. Noesen does NOT belong in the AHL.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Is he hedging or trying to be diplomatic there?

I’m not saying your reporting is wrong, but it’s not right.

Sometimes I think he helps with the trial balloon tests or acts as someone to course correct certain perceptions - informally but inside if you know what I mean.

 

[StormCast]

That's just selective parsing. Shayna wrote it sounds like Tarasenko will be signing. Clearly didn't say it was done and she's clearly the one being singled out.

 

[spockBokk]

I’m convinced there’s more than just Tarasenko brewing. And it’s probably just a Tarasenko signing, then a Pesce traded, but I would not be completely shocked if it was something much bigger.

I also wouldn’t be shocked if Tarasenko to CAR is announced in the next hour.

Strickland saying Tarasenko was close to a decision, then Pagnotta saying it was down to OTT and CAR, then the tweet from Shayna and pretty much confirms to me he’s coming.

 

[StormCast]

Is he hedging or trying to be diplomatic there?

I’m not saying your reporting is wrong, but it’s not right.

Notice he doesn't share his intel? Just a an attempted flex that doesn't even contradict her original tweet.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

AG trying to stay relevant after a NY based writer out intel about the team he covers?

 

[bleedgreen]

Bro c'mon. Noesen does NOT belong in the AHL.

Depends who he’s playing for. Right place right time right fit is the story for almost every tweener that’s ever played at that level. We found a place for him, for now.

 

[LakeLivin]

could management be trying for a 3 way deal the 2 team could retain 50% of Karlsson salary and we have him at 2.850 000 , i dont mind getting rid of 2 players like suzuki ,nadeau and 2 first round picks to acheive this , i would keep pesce , trade chatfield for TDA Noeseen back to AHL where he belongs ,and of course have tarasenko signed somehow

Doesn't the max retention limit of 50% apply to the total contract amount? If it were ok to apply it to each of the 2 allowable retentions, that would result in 75% of the contract being retained.

edit: nope, it does apply to each allowing up to 75% total. thanks daveg

 

[DaveG]

Doesn't the max retention limit of 50% apply to the total contract amount? If it were ok to apply it to each of the 2 allowable retentions, that would result in 75% of the contract being retained.

75% has been done a few times, thats how the Rangers got Kane last year

 

[ElmCityGuy]

I realize this is not breaking news but more of a reminder.. Adam Gold is a total clown.

 

[SoupNazi]

Christ this team is probably the most stacked that the franchise has ever been, going back to the WHA days.

What a f***in time to be alive

Now we just need to stay healthy.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I feel as if the Canes want the trades, including the TDA one, to be announced before the Tarasenko signing is finalized. Canes lose significant trade leverage if they are over the cap. I would not be surprised if the Tarasenko signing is not announced until after July 9th.

 

[Tryamw]

I suppose all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about the lack of deadline moves this past year can be put to bed. When they say they build the team in the summer, they friggin mean it.

Why did we not go all in last season

 

[WreckingCrew]

I feel as if the Canes want the trades, including the TDA one, to be announced before the Tarasenko signing is finalized. Canes lose significant trade leverage if they are over the cap. I would not be surprised if the Tarasenko signing is not announced until after July 9th.

Disagree...we might hold out on a trade until Tank happens, but I can't see a UFA holding out for someone else's domino's to fall into place. That could result in fewer suitors and/or less money, no reason to risk that if he's got a few other close offers

 

[Derailed75]

could management be trying for a 3 way deal the 2 team could retain 50% of Karlsson salary and we have him at 2.850 000 , i dont mind getting rid of 2 players like suzuki ,nadeau and 2 first round picks to acheive this , i would keep pesce , trade chatfield for TDA Noeseen back to AHL where he belongs ,and of course have tarasenko signed somehow

Ok No issue with most of wat you posted but Noesen had 36 points in the national last year, he doesnt belong in the AHL.

 

[Ole Gil]

Ok No issue with most of wat you posted but Noesen had 36 points in the national last year, he doesnt belong in the AHL.

If Noesen isn't getting power play time, which in a perfect world, he doesn't, he's definitely a tweener. A good tweener, but still a tweener.

 

[MinJaBen]

75% has been done a few times, thats how the Rangers got Kane last year

And how we got Domi.

 

[Stickpucker]

Yep. This is SJ's Jeff Skinner moment. The question is, which flavor of Pu will they take back?

I was always partial to a pupu platter.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Why did we not go all in last season

We tried. It didn't work out.

 

[LakeLivin]

Why did we not go all in last season

Define "all in". Last season they did aggressively pursue a couple really big transactions but dropped out when the cost arguably "got stupid". This year it's reported that Orlov approached us and maybe brings Tank in tow? And Karlsson wants out of SJ but possible destinations being limited to strong Cup contenders with available cap space narrows the field considerably. Also, to me going all in kind of implies sacrificing future chances for the immediate. Even with the big moves that might still happen, I don't see the Canes doing that, arguably the opposite (in not giving Pesce and Skjei long term contracts that could hurt down the line).

tldr: Maybe it's more a matter of optimizing what's possible at the time than a change in philosophy?