Confirmed with Link: Tanner Pearson and 3rd (2025) Traded to Montreal for Casey DeSmith

[1909]

In an ideal World, Allen would had been traded and DeSmith, kept. Younger, cheaper, better. What to do with Pearson now ? Waivers material ? 15 forwards with NHL contracts.

 

[Miller Time]

In an ideal World, Allen would had been traded and DeSmith, kept. Younger, cheaper, better.

I can think of FAR better scenarios in my ideal world, why set the bar so low if playing the imaginary game

 

[DAChampion]

Fowler, Engstrom, and Harris are three recent 3rds.

I'd welcome another asset of that caliber as part of the Petry trade/return for taking on a small extra cap hit for 1 year.

Tomas Plekanec is probably the most successful Habs 3rd rounder of the 21st century.

Followed by Yannick Weber, I think.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I think people fail to realize that draft picks aren’t solely to be used exclusively at the draft, a draft pick is an asset and often is currency when making trades.

Hughes is accumulating assets while renting out cap space during a time where cap space isn’t that important to this team.

Not sure why anyone would complain about this deal…but here we are.

It's so bizarre. For a little bit more cap we got at least one decent asset and possibly a 2nd for a goalie we had no intention of keeping who was essentially a throw-in.

For god's sakes don't need to do cart wheels but my god what are people on about lol. It's too much.

 

[donghabs98]

I think people fail to realize that draft picks aren’t solely to be used exclusively at the draft, a draft pick is an asset and often is currency when making trades.

Hughes is accumulating assets while renting out cap space during a time where cap space isn’t that important to this team.

Not sure why anyone would complain about this deal…but here we are.

If there's one thing the internet shows, there are never a shortage of people who will complain about something.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

So many people complain about rushing prospects and now we have depth players/place holders (barring us trading Pearson. HEAVEN FORBID WE GET MORE ASSETS!) so that doesn't happen and people still complain. "WE HAVE TOO MANY PLAYERS NOW! WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?!?"

lol. It's too funny.

 

[vokiel]

Waive and bury Pearson, save 950k on the cap?

 

[donghabs98]

With all that draft capital, it would put the Habs in position to sign a young RFA star to a massive offer sheet next offseason.

It would be hilarious if they poached Necas from Carolina and the saga continues.

The signing bonus they give should be $20.

 

[bleuetbio]

It's nice to get a 3rd round pick. But not sure it will be worth it if it means Pearson takes away ice time from Ylonen...

No way to get rid of Armia except giving up assets or finding a bad GM like Grier that wants him. But not sure even the bad GM's want Armia.

This! I cant complain about the deal, just that we need more youngs players add to the corp even if its not on a constant basis. Roy, Ylonen, Beck, Farrell, Mysak, Mailloux, Trudeau, Struble, Engstrom and Primeau. I would even give 4-5 NHL games to Reinbacher before send him back to his team.

 

[Whitesnake]

I remember in a not so distant past, the 2 players I always thought, by watching LA, would be Habs for some odd reasons were Toffoli and Pearson. lol

 

[LaP]

A 3rd for DeSmith i like it. Send Juraj in the AHL to start the season and play the hell out of Pearson if he is healthy, hope he has a revival season and trade his *** at the deadline. Call Juraj up after the deadline if he has a good season int he AHL.

This! I cant complain about the deal, just that we need more youngs players add to the corp even if its not on a constant basis. Roy, Ylonen, Beck, Farrell, Mysak, Mailloux, Trudeau, Struble, Engstrom and Primeau. I would even give 4-5 NHL games to Reinbacher before send him back to his team.

We can wait another year.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Or don't care about waiving Pearson.

If theyk don't care about waiving Pearson then they did not acquire him to flip him at the deadline.

 

[Miller Time]

This! I cant complain about the deal, just that we need more youngs players add to the corp even if its not on a constant basis. Roy, Ylonen, Beck, Farrell, Mysak, Mailloux, Trudeau, Struble, Engstrom and Primeau. I would even give 4-5 NHL games to Reinbacher before send him back to his team.

While we all hope injuries aren't as endemic as last year, reality is that the top AHL performers will get call ups as the season progresses.

I like the idea of those guys (minus Ylonen, who I hope starts in Montreal as I think he gets claimed if sent down) playing mostly in Laval & hopefully having a great year down there

 

[BaseballCoach]

I don't think the point of the trade was to add a 4th liner to the roster. Main goal was mostly to resolve the goalie situation while getting something valuable back in return which is the 3rd.

Why resolve the goalie situation by giving away the best of the four?

Pearson is kind of irrelevant. Was just a 1 year throw in cap dump by Vancouver. The Habs can take on that kind of stuff since they're still in mid rebuild. Guy won't be here next year and may get waived or traded or used in a 13-14th-15th forward role until he's UFA next summer

It is now impossible to get cap compliant without waiving Pearson (so much for TDL value) or Allen (I wish but they won't) or Armia, Evans or another non-ELC contract or risk losing Pezzetta or Kovacevic.

 

[Milhouse40]

Why resolve the goalie situation by giving away the best of the four?

Okay, now the 32 years old with 134 NHL games in the NHL was the best of the four? Reallly?

 

[26Mats]

Hughes hoping Pearson is another Monahan. Gets back to being the player he used to be and gets us an asset at the TDL.

In two of the 3 seasons before last year's injury ravaged season, he was a 40+ point player and even had 21 goals in one of those seasons. He has grit. So he definitely could be the type of player we get an asset for at the TDL, IF he can play well.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Okay, now the 32 years old with 134 NHL games in the NHL was the best of the four? Reallly?

Career so far, yes. Especially since Allen has slowed down a lot.

Waive and bury Pearson, save 950k on the cap?

That's not what I expect.

I expect to hear that Hughes wants to do right by Pearson and has promised to trade him.

Incoming: a $5M contract plus a 5th round pick for Pearson 50% retained.

But it will all still be good because Hoffman and Matheson.

 

[The Real Timo]

Tomas Plekanec is probably the most successful Habs 3rd rounder of the 21st century.

Followed by Yannick Weber, I think.

Yannick Weber and 'successful' in the same sentence. Yikes.

 

[Saundies]

We'll see...

But if he isn't a lock for a top 9 spot by virtue of his play, I wouldn't be surprised to see him start in Laval.

(personally, if he isn't playing well enough to start the year next to Dach or Suzuki, and be a regular on the pp, I think I'd rather see him play top line minutes in Laval).

The rationale to keep him in Montreal last year would be tough to apply for a 2nd season one would think.

You'd think the locks are
Suzuki Dach Dvorak Evans
CC Monahan Newhook Anderson

That leaves (barring injury) Slaf, Armia, Pearson, Gally, Ylonen, RHP and Pez all fighting for the 4 (+1 13th fwd) remaining winger spots up front.

If he's not solidly top 2 from those 7, I'd think Laval is a better spot than 4th line duties...

Yeah I agree with everything you just said. I would say on principle alone ('vet guys" who probably won't be buried in the minors despite not being that good anymore) that Armia, Gally, and now Pearson are all locks too.

That leaves the latter 3 and Slaf for 1 spot and the extra.

I can't fathom them keeping Slafkovsky up just to have him be the 13th (stranger things have happened but I would I hate it) and if I'm a betting man, I'd say that's Pezzetta's spot. He's used to being there and he's comfortable doing it.

Ylonen is the only guy left with a 2-way deal so he's looking like the early favourite for a ticket to Laval early on.

That leaves either keeping Slaf with the big club and waiving RHP (which I can't see) or Pezzetta (which, okay, but they just signed him to a 2 year deal so that would be weird) or sending him down.

Or they make a trade like tomorrow that frees up room and blows all of these scenarios out of the water. Either way, good food for thought.

 

[Andrei79]

Pretty meh trade. Pearson might garner a bit more if he regains form or at least partially. He seems to be liked in the room so that fits into what Hughes wants. I'm not sure I'm a fan of adding another forward but who knows who he's going to perform.

What I find is excellent is how much Hughes has cleaned up the cap and added depth at all position, even if we're lacking top end talent still. I do wonder what will happen with Gallagher's contract. He's the one contract that's awful and that needs to be moved. Outside of his, there's still another year of bad contracts (Armia, Dvorak) but there's light ahead.

 

[Treb]

We acquired Monahan, who was a negative value for CGY.
We traded Hoffman who has negative value.
We traded Pitlick who went unclaimed on waiver.
We traded Poehling.
We have 2.3M for two years on our cap.

For this package we received :

1st RD pick.
2nd RD pick
3rd RD pick
4th RD pick
Nathan Légaré
Gustan Lindstrom
Tanner Pearson (Negative value).

We are really in a position to f***ing overpay for the next big RFA (like Dubois or Tkachuk) and i am all for it.

Its not about DeSmith for Pearson and 3rd.

It's about the assets accumulation that is behind all of that for a couple of tweaking.


Don't think its possible. Armia has negative value.

I think instead Pearson is AHL bound.

I don't think they will waive Pearson.

If Dvorak is ready, they will waive Ylonen/Armia/Evans.

 

[FormerLurker]

So we traded Hoffman and Pitlick for:

2nd round pick
3rd round pick
4th round pick
Tanner Pearson
Nathan Legare
Gustav Lindstrom
% of Petry contract

Very nice !

And the cap works out even for this year, assuming Legare and Lindstrom go to Laval. Hoffman + Pitlick = $5.6M, Pearson + Petry = $5.6M.

This series of trades my not be over.

 

[NewDef]

Exactly. Remember when Hughes said they're acquiring assets so they can be able to afford overpaying on someone in a trade to ensure they get him.

2025 seems like the year they plan to start being buyers. They have 2 x 1st, 2 x 2nd, 2 x 3rd & 2 x 4th.

I expect pre-draft and during draft 2025 surprises like the Dach's move or some kind of 7th oa + a 2nd + 4rd for 4-5 oa or using a 4th/5th for signing rights on rfa. Having cash in hand (picks) when others don't can lead to really good deals. What this needs is preparation. You gotta be ready when the pin drops.

 

[Sorinth]

Tomas Plekanec is probably the most successful Habs 3rd rounder of the 21st century.

Followed by Yannick Weber, I think.

I'd put Emelin ahead of Weber. But to add some more perspective just outside the 21st century in '98 we drafted Beauchemin with a 3rd round pick, and before that Rivet in '92. Going further back we actually did quite well with Scheinder, Lumme, Roy, Ludwig, and Carboneau although it's not really a fair comparison when going back that far since many would be 2nd round picks in a 32 team league. Still we 4 good players in 30 years (Or 3 in 20ish if stopping before Rivet [It's 20ish because of Harris in 2018 showing potential]) equates to one every 8ish years with a number of fringe/depth players along the way which is probably fairly accurate value wise.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Hughes hoping Pearson is another Monahan.

So he's waiving Allen?