Tank Fails

[iFan]

I bet they shut down Demko for the rest of the season. Maybe give a "oh he'll be back in another 3 weeks..." update before shutting him down somewhere near the end of that.

be hard to trade him if you shut him down for the season, teams in the offseason may be hesitant to trade for him if he misses that much time.

 

[604]

I see why you would think that if points are all you're looking at.

Boulivier doesn't bring anything else...and neither does Boeser...Garland is the best of the bunch when looking at intangibles.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Boulivier doesn't bring anything else...and neither does Boeser...Garland is the best of the bunch when looking at intangibles.

Intangibles wise, agree Garland is likely best consistently. Beau is a more assertive forechecker than Boeser though, for instance. I don't think it's really close there either.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

If it's not already taken, I say the Canucks should: Wet the bed for bedard!

Wet the bed hard?

Or..

Take a shart for Bedard.
Skate like you're in lard for bedard.
Make it look way too hard for Bedard.
Play like Keith Ballard for Bedard.
Mange le merde pour Bedard.
Suck a nard for...

 

[M2Beezy]

Brady Tkachuk really screwed up with that idiotic goal taking away a valuable Montreal point

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Brady Tkachuk really screwed up with that idiotic goal taking away a valuable Montreal point

MTL has shit the bed a few times late to give up points.

 

[nucksflailtogether]

MTL has shit the bed a few times late to give up points.

Sucks they lost Caufield. Amazing tank move. Good response with the Horvat trade i guess.

 

[Vector]

I bet they shut down Demko for the rest of the season. Maybe give a "oh he'll be back in another 3 weeks..." update before shutting him down somewhere near the end of that.

Patrick Johnston was saying that it Demko’s return was always going to be mid-February and that potential trade partners would want him to see him play.

If they do shut him down it’ll be after the trade deadline or they’ll going into a 50/50 time share under the guise of preserving Demko’s health.

 

[Knight53]

Ottawa wins and are now 8 points ahead of us. MTL is going to be with us until the end, probably worse roster in the league right now.

Wsh wins and is now 5 points ahead of NYI in the wildcard.

 

[apadilla]

Wet the bed hard?

Or..

Take a shart for Bedard.
Skate like you're in lard for bedard.
Make it look way too hard for Bedard.
Play like Keith Ballard for Bedard.
Mange le merde pour Bedard.
Suck a nard for...

I see what you did there "wet the bed hard for bedard". Total approval!

 

[604]

MTL has shit the bed a few times late to give up points.

We probably need to trade them, or a team below us, Demko.

Might as well solidify our potential position for the draft lottery.

 

[J Corso]

Stop.

If they finished dead last, they would have 25% odds.

This victim, curse, nonsense is illogical voodoo gibberish.

There’s been nothing to suggest “Canucks luck” is a thing other than people’s bias making the team out to be super unlucky because…. …idk a victim complex?

Its not rubbish. In 53 years of history including around 30 years off draft lotteries, not once has a random event gone the Canucks way. Meanwhile pretty much half the league has had good luck, Wpg, Edm, NJ, Phi, Atl, Chi, Was, CBJ, LA, Buf with lottery wins.

The lack of good luck for half a century is called bad luck.

 

[racerjoe]

Its not rubbish. In 53 years of history including around 30 years off draft lotteries, not once has a random event gone the Canucks way. Meanwhile pretty much half the league has had good luck, Wpg, Edm, NJ, Phi, Atl, Chi, Was, CBJ, LA, Buf with lottery wins.

The lack of good luck for half a century is called bad luck.

Can I introduce you to the Stanchion?

 

[4Twenty]

Its not rubbish. In 53 years of history including around 30 years off draft lotteries, not once has a random event gone the Canucks way. Meanwhile pretty much half the league has had good luck, Wpg, Edm, NJ, Phi, Atl, Chi, Was, CBJ, LA, Buf with lottery wins.

The lack of good luck for half a century is called bad luck.

I don’t know. The draft has broken pretty favourably for the Canucks over the last decade plus imo.

They could’ve picked Nylander/Ehlers but didn’t.

Could’ve had Pasternak but chose someone else.

Had Matthew Tkachuk, one of the rarest player types in the sport, fall into their laps and chose someone else.

Lucked out that Pettersson fell to them.

Lucked out that Detroit took Zadina over Hughes.

Winning the lottery last season would’ve been unlucky imo. None of those guys is Matthews/McDavid.

Getting Pettersson at 5 is as lucky as winning most draft lotteries.

 

[Canucker]

I don’t know. The draft has broken pretty favourably for the Canucks over the last decade plus imo.

They could’ve picked Nylander/Ehlers but didn’t.

Could’ve had Pasternak but chose someone else.

Had Matthew Tkachuk, one of the rarest player types in the sport, fall into their laps and chose someone else.

Lucked out that Pettersson fell to them.

Lucked out that Detroit took Zadina over Hughes.

Winning the lottery last season would’ve been unlucky imo. None of those guys is Matthews/McDavid.

Getting Pettersson at 5 is as lucky as winning most draft lotteries.

lol...thats some high-grade optimism right there.

 

[iceburg]

Its not rubbish. In 53 years of history including around 30 years off draft lotteries, not once has a random event gone the Canucks way. Meanwhile pretty much half the league has had good luck, Wpg, Edm, NJ, Phi, Atl, Chi, Was, CBJ, LA, Buf with lottery wins.

The lack of good luck for half a century is called bad luck.

So you’re saying half the league has good luck and half the league has bad luck….hmmmm

 

[4Twenty]

lol...thats some high-grade optimism right there.

It’s the truth…the draft has broken very favourably for the Canucks, their own choices are the downfall not the bad luck. Was it actually good luck that edmonton won Nail Yakupov?

I hate the Canucks luck defeatist BS. It’s wrong.

 

[Canucker]

It’s the truth…the draft has broken very favourably for the Canucks, their own choices are the downfall not the bad luck. Was it actually good luck that edmonton won Nail Yakupov?

I hate the Canucks luck defeatist BS. It’s wrong.

lol...I'm not going to try to dissuade you from your optimistic viewpoint, I don't agree with it but if it helps you feel better about things then more power to you. I would just say that over the last several years we have lost significantly more positional value in the lottery than we have gained...I'm not saying we are some sad sack, "Boo hoo" franchise that never gets anything good...but we do have a string of some bad luck as it comes to the lottery...doesn't mean it can't/won't change, but in recent history we've had a run of bad luck.

 

[4Twenty]

lol...I'm not going to try to dissuade you from your optimistic viewpoint, I don't agree with it but if it helps you feel better about things then more power to you. I would just say that over the last several years we have lost significantly more positional value in the lottery than we have gained.

It’s not an optimistic view point though. It’s the reality.

They lucked out that Philly won a lottery and selected Nolan Patrick. Why isn’t that good luck?


You should probably show your work if you want to disagree. I showed mine. They lucked out a lot. They just didn’t capitalize on that luck most of the time.

They missed out on Auston Matthews but a 100 point PWF was still there for them.


It’s certainly not “significant”.

 

[Canucker]

It’s not an optimistic view point though. It’s the reality.

They lucked out that Philly won a lottery and selected Nolan Patrick. Why isn’t that good luck?


You should probably show your work if you want to disagree. I showed mine. They lucked out a lot. They just didn’t capitalize on that luck most of the time.

What "work"? If saying we had good luck that Pastrnak was available to us but we didn't pick him as an example of your "work"...we're living in alternate universes and I'm not going to devote a lot of time to the conversation.

 

[4Twenty]

What "work"? If saying we had good luck that Pastrnak was available to us but we didn't pick him as an example of your "work"...we're living in alternate universes and I'm not going to devote a lot of time to the conversation.

Uh where is the “significant bad luck” then?

They moved down twice. One was extremely beneficial (Elias Pettersson). The other (Matthew Tkachuk).

The Canucks arent unlucky. They’re just bad.


Their own choices is why folks have a belief of the bad luck.


I’m not saying the Canucks are going to win Bedard sweepstakes either. But it won’t be because they’re unlucky.

 

[theguardianII]

Its not rubbish. In 53 years of history including around 30 years off draft lotteries, not once has a random event gone the Canucks way. Meanwhile pretty much half the league has had good luck, Wpg, Edm, NJ, Phi, Atl, Chi, Was, CBJ, LA, Buf with lottery wins.

The lack of good luck for half a century is called bad luck.

Don't for get DAY 1 of the franchise;

Missed out on Perrault, DAY 1.

Chose Nedved, who was a pretty good choice at the time but past on Jagr, time made the pick look missed but hindsight is often cruel.

Other big lottery winners, NYR, NJD

 

[Canucker]

Uh where is the “significant bad luck” then?

They moved down twice. One was extremely beneficial (Elias Pettersson). The other (Matthew Tkachuk).

The Canucks arent unlucky. They’re just bad.


Their own choices is why folks have a belief of the bad luck.

So "winning" Pettersson is better than Cale Makar or Heiskanen?

You are cherry picking your examples as well...we're "lucky" that Hughes fell to us, but it was just a bad decision when we pick the wrong player.

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Wet the bed hard?

Or..

Take a shart for Bedard.
Skate like you're in lard for bedard.
Make it look way too hard for Bedard.
Play like Keith Ballard for Bedard.
Mange le merde pour Bedard.
Suck a nard for...

"Great moments are born from great opportunity, and that's what you have here tonight, boys. That's what you've earned here tonight. One game; if we played them ten times, we might win nine. But not this game, not tonight. Tonight, we let them score. Tonight we stay in the penalty box, and we pull our goalie at random because we can. Tonight, we are the worst hockey team in the world.

You were born to be teammate with Bedard—every one of you, and you were meant to be here tonight. This is your time. Their time is done. It's over. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Canucks have. Screw 'em. This is your time. Now go out there and take the Bedard cup!

 

[VanJack]

I don’t know. The draft has broken pretty favourably for the Canucks over the last decade plus imo.

They could’ve picked Nylander/Ehlers but didn’t.

Could’ve had Pasternak but chose someone else.

Had Matthew Tkachuk, one of the rarest player types in the sport, fall into their laps and chose someone else.

Lucked out that Pettersson fell to them.

Lucked out that Detroit took Zadina over Hughes.

Winning the lottery last season would’ve been unlucky imo. None of those guys is Matthews/McDavid.

Getting Pettersson at 5 is as lucky as winning most draft lotteries.

I get the fact that every team in the NHL whiffs on draft picks occasionally, but can you imagine the conversation we'd be having about the Canucks if they'd drafted Nylander or Ehlers instead of Virtnanen; Pastrnak instead McCann; and Tkachuk instead of Juolevi?

Too depressing to think about for too long if you're a Canucks fan.