Proposal: Tanev to Toronto

[sansabri]

Crazy idea that no one's thought of, right? I'm not a Leafs fan but the fit makes too much sense to me.

Leafs get
D Chris Tanev

Canucks get
RW Jeremy Bracco
D Travis Dermott
LW Leo Komarov
+?

Bracco and Dermott are great prospects and Komarov can either be kept as leadership or traded for a decent haul at the deadline. I imagine the Leafs would have to add to this package, what would the Canucks want?

Something much better than this offer. If the Canucks make Tanev available, he'll be highly sought after. So think Top prospect + pick.

 

[Pip]

The discussion in this thread has been pretty good actually!

nope. Settling for B-level prospects isn't what I would call good discussion.

i mean to get you gotta give. where does everyone stand on the leafs 1st this season? also kap is a good prospect but saying he isn't available for tanev might be a stretch. our blue line reeks lol.

nope. Kapanen and the first don't get you close. Nylander/Marner or bust. You gotta give up something you don't want to give up to get a top pairing defenseman.

This is the part where you say you wouldn't trade either player for Tanev and then I say that's fine, the Canucks aren't looking to trade him.

Hence why this thread, that's been done a hundred times by now, never ends well.

 

[Brock Radunske]

i mean to get you gotta give. where does everyone stand on the leafs 1st this season? also kap is a good prospect but saying he isn't available for tanev might be a stretch. our blue line reeks lol.

I think our 1st or Kapanen would be on the table but not both.

 

[TeddyBare]

Kapanen and Bracco for Tanev is what I think is realistic.

Or switch one with Travis Dermott and a pick.

 

[Pip]

Kapenen and first could be close to a deal for Edler.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

It wouldn't even be close to solid.

of course it isn't because you're a Leafs fan who has no real grasp on the hockey world.

if the Leafs want to build a contender quicker they need to build a quality defense corps and that costs. You can take the slower/patient route and draft/develop dmen and hope to get one as a UFA.

Do you want to contend for a Cup in 3-4 years or 5-7?

 

[Brock Radunske]

Kapenen and first could be close to a deal for Edler.

No interest in Edler at all and I definitely wouldn't pay that much for him.

 

[M2Beezy]

Kapenen and first could be close to a deal for Edler.

Yeah thats a waste of a discussion for Leafs fans tho so theres that

 

[TeddyBare]

It'd be funny seeing the Canucks trade for Bracco then have him report to Utica next year with Demko on the team.

 

[Pocket Hercules]

of course it isn't because you're a Leafs fan who has no real grasp on the hockey world.

if the Leafs want to build a contender quicker they need to build a quality defense corps and that costs. You can take the slower/patient route and draft/develop dmen and hope to get one as a UFA.

Do you want to contend for a Cup in 3-4 years or 5-7?

And you're a Sabres fan with a hidden agenda and who would rather not have his team play against "the big 3" for the next 10-15 years. Nice try though.

Counter proposal: Sam Reinhart for Tanev. Would you do it?...

 

[Brock Radunske]

of course it isn't because you're a Leafs fan who has no real grasp on the hockey world.

if the Leafs want to build a contender quicker they need to build a quality defense corps and that costs. You can take the slower/patient route and draft/develop dmen and hope to get one as a UFA.

Do you want to contend for a Cup in 3-4 years or 5-7?

Yeah thats a waste of a discussion for Leafs fans tho so theres that

I think Edler is a good player but his age, production, contract and health makes him a non-starter for the Leafs.

 

[Pip]

No interest in Edler at all and I definitely wouldn't pay that much for him.

Totally fair, he likely doesn't fit in with the age of the new core in Toronto.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Totally fair, he likely doesn't fit in with the age of the new core in Toronto.

He's also a LHD.
We need a top 4 RHD in the worst way...

 

[leaflover]

Tanev is the key to the Canucks blueline. They're not a star studded group but they can be effective as is, remove Tanev without a somewhat suitable replacement and the rest are put in roles they shouldn't be in and the entire d-corps/team suffers.
The only way I see Vancouver moving Tanev is if management opts to start a wholesale rebuild rather than the on the fly type currently in motion. Even then he would command a greater return than what was proposed here.

 

[Atomos2]

Kapanen, Rychel/Lindberg and 2017 1st rd pick(top 3 lottery protected) for Tanev

 

[realgoodleafs]

of course it isn't because you're a Leafs fan who has no real grasp on the hockey world.

if the Leafs want to build a contender quicker they need to build a quality defense corps and that costs. You can take the slower/patient route and draft/develop dmen and hope to get one as a UFA.

Do you want to contend for a Cup in 3-4 years or 5-7?

How does subtracting more than you add accelerate the process? We've added Zaitsev, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander in the span of 2 years. I think the Leafs will take their chances continuing on with the Shanaplan.

 

[HarryLime]

nope. Settling for B-level prospects isn't what I would call good discussion.



nope. Kapanen and the first don't get you close. Nylander/Marner or bust. You gotta give up something you don't want to give up to get a top pairing defenseman.

This is the part where you say you wouldn't trade either player for Tanev and then I say that's fine, the Canucks aren't looking to trade him.

Hence why this thread, that's been done a hundred times by now, never ends well.

is tanev a top pairing guy? he produces nothing offensively tbh.

 

[Blueangel1891]

Big 3 or no trade

Guys like Kapanen, Bracco and Dermott can get you Gudbranson though

 

[Blueangel1891]

is tanev a top pairing guy? he produces nothing offensively tbh.

He's a premier defensive defenceman in the league. The last decent one of those got Taylor Hall

 

[HarryLime]

He's a premier defensive defenceman in the league. The last decent one of those got Taylor Hall

fair enough

 

[WillNyeTheHockeyGuy]

is tanev a top pairing guy? he produces nothing offensively tbh.

Perhaps, but you put him with Gardiner and suddenly Gardiner looks like a 1st pairing defenseman. It's more so how Tanev complements his defense partner. I for one would be willing to package Kapanen, Bracco/Dermott, and a pick (2nd or 3rd) at most. I don't want to be parting with a 1st at this stage in the rebuild. If he is considered a #1 (which I guess is arguable due to his offensive production), then we really don't have the pieces we're willing to part with to make this work.

 

[TeddyBare]

is tanev a top pairing guy? he produces nothing offensively tbh.

I think if you have too offensive guys on the same pairing they give up way too many goals.

Reilly and Tanev were absolute dynamite at the world championships as the top pairing and didn't allow a goal against the entire tournament while they were on the ice, which is pretty good.

They perfectly compliment each other in my opinion.

 

[Pip]

He's also a LHD.
We need a top 4 RHD in the worst way...

makes sense

is tanev a top pairing guy? he produces nothing offensively tbh.

He's not very that great offensively but still produces around 20 even strength points per 82 games. He's not a powerplay guy at all which obviously hurts his production. His bread and butter is shot suppression and consistency.

 

[nuckfan insk]

If Tanev were put on the market he would return more the. The original post. There most likely would be a bidding war...
Tanev is better then larsson
Larsson returned hall
Tanev should return >or = Taylor hall

If that type of quality (not quantity) isn't available then there is no point moving Tanev

 

[67Cup]

Big 3 or no trade

Guys like Kapanen, Bracco and Dermott can get you Gudbranson though

Hey, Jim Benning works for the Canucks, not the Leafs!