zeke
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don't worry the Oilers and Flames will have their live exit interviews on the front page too.
Tampa defeats Toronto 4 games to 3
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don't worry the Oilers and Flames will have their live exit interviews on the front page too.
Did the refs miss calls? Yes. Did it affect the outcome? Not at all. The Leafs lost cause the number 1 Power Play failed in the playoffs including going 0 for 3 in game 7
So many things you exclude in your response, which I suspected, because it completely goes against your narrative. No point responding to the koolaid drinkers anymore, just a waste of time.
Yep. Power plays were 3 to 2 in favour of the Leafs in Game 7 and Tampa lost Point early in the game to injury.
Tampa just went out and got it done in back to back elimination games.
I dont have a dog in this fight
But complaining about non calls is a tough road when NHL refs routinely let players get away with things that lead to chances is tough.
Yes, NHL refs simply need to be better...period.
But if anyone thinks the refs have cost any time multiple years of misery is pretty tough sledding
But complaining about non calls is a tough road when NHL refs routinely let players get away with things that lead to chances is tough.
Yes, NHL refs simply need to be better...period.
But if anyone thinks the refs have cost any time multiple years of misery is pretty tough sledding
Not what happened? Literally every single analyst on Sportsnet said it was way too blatant and clearly a penalty. Talk about not watching….
Thechozen1
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Teams find ways to kill off 5 on 3’s all the time. Don’t blame the refs. Players just need to come out on top when faced with adversity. That’s how Championship teams roll.
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Number one Bull$hit
Golden_Jet
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Exactly right, Holl pulled a bone headed obvious pick play, yet your still crying over it.
Don’t forget the high stick in 1993.
HofT
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I agree with everything except yes, there were calls/missed calls that favoured Tampa specifically in games 6 and 7 which gave Tampa greater odds to score/tie/win.
Killorn holding Muzzin's stick on the ice led to Paul scoring. Foote holding Kampf should have been called cause it looks too obvious. If there's a call there then Paul wouldn't have had the chance to score right away.
Then yea, they gave Holl a penalty which disallowed Tavares's goal. Yes it's a penalty. But it's as much of a penalty as Foote holding Kampf or even Killorn holding Muzzin's stick. Obstruction, right?
And game 6 we all know. Phantom high stick, which led to Kerfoot's high stick, then a 5 on 3 goal. If there was no call on the Phantom high stick then none of that would have happened.
Your last point while correct didn't lose them game 6. They still had a chance to win. Sorry but 4 shots on net in the 3rd isn't going to get it done.
CupsOverCash
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They definitely could have scored the goal in ot instead of the bolts... but no they didn't hence the constant crying about refs. If they won these games wouldn't hear any crying about any of those calls. I'm sorry tampa fans have been through this enough to know that calls don't matter its how you deal with adversity. Leaf fans are right there with their players moaning and groaning rather than taking the hit the face and sticking with it. Regardless whether that's a bad call or nasty illegal hit what have you. It's not about what happens its how you deal with it. It's been constantly said by many but for some reason isn't registering with some of you. Life doesn't care about excuses certainly don't in hockey.
Don’t dislike the team. Do dislike the fan base.
Goes back to when I was originally here 2007 - 2010.
I realize all teams have “those” fans and some of it is because there are just so many Leaf fans here. It just seems the arrogance among them is so widespread that the constant failure seems comical.
Chips
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Is this bitching still going? The leafs got away with shit literally every game and absolutely had their moments where calls or non calls helped them too.
The Leafs failed on their own plain and simple. They had opportunities to make the kill in 6 and 7 and failed. They failed to kill the 5 on 3 the way other two teams have killed 5 on 3s
And by the level of bitching you’d think the high stick was as bad as the Sharks-Knights call (which itself is a bit exaggerated for its impact). It was a pedestrian wrong call.
The refs don’t see everything perfectly. They never will. Again, the Leafs absolutely got beneficial calls and non calls through the series too some accidental and some blatantly intentional by the refs (in the way they do for every team, arbitrarily deciding to apply or not based on context)
Players are generally wise not to swing their sticks around, certainly not up. Sloppy by the Leafs allowed a rather pedestrian bad call that led to a big goal.
Like I’ve said with the Sharks call years ago, the call and what happens after aren’t the same thing. A call isn’t better or worse because of what happened after. It’s what the ref saw or thought he saw and whether he chose to call.
That’s what the call is, and it was an understandable, and quite possible to make mistake any game, by a ref when a player swings his stick up in the corner and wacks the shit out of a guys shoulder, who then sold the call as basically every team does every single series trying to get that edge.
The Leafs got outplayed. Finishing is the biggest part of playing. They had stretches of control supposedly dominating the Bolts 5v5 except the whole finishing part in the last game.
The Leafs failed on their own plain and simple. They had opportunities to make the kill in 6 and 7 and failed. They failed to kill the 5 on 3 the way other two teams have killed 5 on 3s
And by the level of bitching you’d think the high stick was as bad as the Sharks-Knights call (which itself is a bit exaggerated for its impact). It was a pedestrian wrong call.
The refs don’t see everything perfectly. They never will. Again, the Leafs absolutely got beneficial calls and non calls through the series too some accidental and some blatantly intentional by the refs (in the way they do for every team, arbitrarily deciding to apply or not based on context)
Players are generally wise not to swing their sticks around, certainly not up. Sloppy by the Leafs allowed a rather pedestrian bad call that led to a big goal.
Like I’ve said with the Sharks call years ago, the call and what happens after aren’t the same thing. A call isn’t better or worse because of what happened after. It’s what the ref saw or thought he saw and whether he chose to call.
That’s what the call is, and it was an understandable, and quite possible to make mistake any game, by a ref when a player swings his stick up in the corner and wacks the shit out of a guys shoulder, who then sold the call as basically every team does every single series trying to get that edge.
The Leafs got outplayed. Finishing is the biggest part of playing. They had stretches of control supposedly dominating the Bolts 5v5 except the whole finishing part in the last game.
berklon
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And yet you're in a thread titled: "Tampa defeats Toronto 4 games to 3"
Why are you so obsessed with the Leafs?
Haha what they mean to say is they can’t get enough of the Leafs
HofT
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They are completely unaware they are contributing to the Leafs getting the most attention. I call them fans of the 33rd NHL team. They invest so much into something they hate that they themselves have become fans.
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zeke
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Lmao the refs call a BS late game potentially game changing penalty against the Bolts.
Something they didn't do once against the Bolts in round 1.
Something they didn't do once against the Bolts in round 1.
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Absolutely. I’ve pointed out multiple missed calls but a certain fanbase would rather ignore it to continue their narrative.
But, this is a good thing. The less accountability, the less likely change happens, and the more likely we get the sixth straight year of a choke.
HofT
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Disgruntled Leaf fans are now even spamming the Tampa- Florida thread.
Time to move on.
Time to move on.
T REX
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Can we lock these leaf bitchfest threads?
We are in Round 2 now. They can keep it to their own board.
Not much to ask...is it?
We are in Round 2 now. They can keep it to their own board.
Not much to ask...is it?
HTFN
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And yet "the core" of Ovechkin, Backstrom, Green, and Semin won zero. Not a lot of teams keep 14 year cores, so the first and second half of this post conflict with each other in a big way, sometimes you've got to look at what's going on and make some choices.
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