Tampa defeats Toronto 4 games to 3

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You have to understand too, your isolating two plays, pausing and rewinding over and over. The officials do not have that luxury. If I’m officiating that game, I’m not calling those two plays a penalty. That’s not because I hate the team, it’s just not severe enough to warrant calls IMO. The Muzzin play is just two players falling and flaring on the ice, the other they are tangled, but Kampf makes little effort to get out. At least embellish it a little, make it more noticeable while an odd man rush is occurring.

But you’re also a Leafs homer, so you see things differently. You take those non-calls more personal when it happens against your team. Would you feel the same way if the plays were reversed, and the outcome was 2-1 Leaf’s, rather than Lightning? I’m a Ppanthers homer btw, so don’t take me calling you a homer an insult.
The official have a nice luxury of missing a few more for the leafs. Those chumps can keep the change. Cash over cups is the leafs new slogan.
 
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You have to understand too, your isolating two plays, pausing and rewinding over and over. The officials do not have that luxury. If I’m officiating that game, I’m not calling those two plays a penalty. That’s not because I hate the team, it’s just not severe enough to warrant calls IMO. The Muzzin play is just two players falling and flaring on the ice, the other they are tangled, but Kampf makes little effort to get out. At least embellish it a little, make it more noticeable while an odd man rush is occurring.

But you’re also a Leafs homer, so you see things differently. You take those non-calls more personal when it happens against your team. Would you feel the same way if the plays were reversed, and the outcome was 2-1 Leaf’s, rather than Lightning? I’m a Ppanthers homer btw, so don’t take me calling you a homer an insult.
Absolutely, from the refs perspective it probably was difficult to assess what was happening with Muzzin's stick in real time. I didn't noticed right away.

With Kampf being held, yea he should have struggled more but still he was held there for a couple seconds. Foote put his weight on Kampf so maybe it was difficult to show struggle. And I did see that in real time.
 
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If pointing out that our elite scorers flat out failed vs MTL and CBJ is "finding a scapegoat", then sure.



nothing vague about it. the goal was scored. the reasons for it being disallowed were borderline even for a regular season game, let alone a game 7.



he allowed a 2nd goal, which was then disallowed.
You know the whistle blew well before the shot don’t you?
 
When do you see players knocked down without the puck right at the circle while chasing the puck carrier not called a penalty? This wasn’t some little “get in his way on a dump in” type pick. It was as blatant as you can get and that’s why no one other than a few vocal Leaf fans see otherwise.


I see multiple posters say they lost because of the refs. A couple in this thread alone
Given that he was not even close to being knocked down it is clear most people commenting on this haven't even watched the play. An argument for incidental contact could certainly be made as could one for a pick. Making that call in game 7 given the standard that was set is terrible.

I was watching the game with a room full of Leaf haters and they were laughing at how bad the call was in that situation.
 
I have to admit, I feel for those Leafs fans. Great players and expectations for a while now and each year deception.
 
Toronto fans really can‘t let go, can they? They should be used to this drill. Now, imagine if they had won the series, what a crapfest this board would be.
This thread is 90% non-leaf fans trolling and throwing a party that the Leafs got eliminated, not sure what you're talking about. Can the leafs haters let go ? Or are we still throwing shots at Toronto while the 2nd round of the playoffs is starting
 
This thread is 90% non-leaf fans trolling and throwing a party that the Leafs got eliminated, not sure what you're talking about. Can the leafs haters let go ? Or are we still throwing shots at Toronto while the 2nd round of the playoffs is starting
Your posts all season are the reason I’m enjoying this.
 
Given that he was not even close to being knocked down it is clear most people commenting on this haven't even watched the play. An argument for incidental contact could certainly be made as could one for a pick. Making that call in game 7 given the standard that was set is terrible.

I was watching the game with a room full of Leaf haters and they were laughing at how bad the call was in that situation.
Why did every analyst and commentator, who were clearly lead biased, say that’s clearly the right call. Why does 90% of these boards think it was right? Why do most of your own fans?

I’m sure your imaginary friends said it wasn’t a penalty though.
 
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Why did every analyst and commentator, who were clearly lead biased, say that’s clearly the right call. Why does 90% of these boards think it was right? Why do most of your own fans?

I’m sure your imaginary friends said it wasn’t a penalty though.
That’s not what happened but those who think it was the right call probably didn’t even watch the play like you and assume it was some massive hit Holl laid on Cirelli.
 
I cannot remember the last time I have seen a pick executed soo poorly, yet somehow some of the TML fans think that this play is the same as any other borderline call... You cannot be that obvious and expect the refs to ignore it.... They may still ignore it, but if they don't the call is on Holl and not the refs...

Same as not all crosschecks to the face are identical, not all pick plays are identical. Some are subtle and they are usually let go, some are less subtle and become "50/50" and some are terrible and are called every time....

Agreed that the one superior skill the Bolts displayed over the Leafs this series was their ability to make their infractions look accidental and make the leafs' non-infractions look like penalties.

The goal was never scored. The whistle was blown after a penalty call. Being the hockey know-it-alls that you all are, how you think Tavares makes it to that shooting position without any type of interference on his defender, is crazy. You keep complaining about an obvious penalty, and I’d bet you wouldn’t be uttering a word if the play and penalty was called on the opposite end of the ice.

You guys lost a great series against the b2b champs. You didn’t choke a lead away, you lost a do or die game 7. It happens. But to blame it on a correct penalty being called it getting ridiculous now.

Yes we all know the technicalities but we also all saw the play. We all know what happened.
 
Toronto fans really can‘t let go, can they? They should be used to this drill. Now, imagine if they had won the series, what a crapfest this board would be.

"Leafs fans all run and hide while we are still here mocking them lol!!!"

"Leafs fans just can't let this go and let us mock them in peace lol!!!"

Those dastardly Leafs fans!!
 
Agreed that the one superior skill the Bolts displayed over the Leafs this series was their ability to make their infractions look accidental and make the leafs' non-infractions look like penalties.



Yes we all know the technicalities but we also all saw the play. We all know what happened.

Yes we all know what happened, which was the correct call being made.

If the roles were reversed, and that type of goal was scored on Campbell, but without a call being made, you would have lost your shit. The sad thing is, you, or any other Leaf’s fan who thinks the call was bad, will never admit that.

Again, you guys aren’t novice hockey fans. Regarding that play, you can easily see, and know, that Tavares has no chance getting to that spot on the ice without the interference, he doesn’t have the positioning nor foot speed to get there. If Holl rubs off of Cirelli, and continues skating, then a call is probably not made. But Holl beelines to Cirelli, stops, and sets a pick, freeing up Tavares. In that case, you have to call that. It’s clear as day, but you want to be in the minority because it happened to your beloved Leafs player.
 
Yes we all know what happened, which was the correct call being made.

If the roles were reversed, and that type of goal was scored on Campbell, but without a call being made, you would have lost your shit. The sad thing is, you, or any other Leaf’s fan who thinks the call was bad, will never admit that.

Again, you guys aren’t novice hockey fans. Regarding that play, you can easily see, and know, that Tavares has no chance getting to that spot on the ice without the interference, he doesn’t have the positioning nor foot speed to get there. If Holl rubs off of Cirelli, and continues skating, then a call is probably not made. But Holl beelines to Cirelli, stops, and sets a pick, freeing up Tavares. In that case, you have to call that. It’s clear as day, but you want to be in the minority because it happened to your beloved Leafs player.

Agreed we all saw the borderline-for-even-regular-season call made on a game-changing play in a game 7.

That's after the refs awarded a game changing 2-minute 2-man advantage on two borderline to awful calls in the 3rd period to save the Bolts on game 6.
 
"Leafs fans all run and hide while we are still here mocking them lol!!!"

"Leafs fans just can't let this go and let us mock them in peace lol!!!"

Those dastardly Leafs fans!!
The stupid part about living in Canada (even if we're not in Toronto) is we get a non-stop feed of Leafs news all day every day, even when the second round is about to begin with a much anticipated Battle of Alberta featuring the best player in the world, against his arch-nemesis Flames.

Nope

LEafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs Leafs LEafs.. oh small Battle of Alberta featuring 2 Canadian teams.. haha
LEAFS LEAFS LEAFS LEAFS LEAFS LEAFS LEAFS.

Like this isn't local Toronto News. This is what counts for National Coverage.




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