Suspended: Spezza 6 games (Reduced to 4 games) | Pionk 2 games

[Isaac Nootin]

Oh, I thought phone hearing meant an automatic 5 games. My apologies.

In person just gives DoPs the opportunity to go 5+, doesn't mean that's where it goes. Could be anywhere from a fine, 1 game (it won't be) and up.

 

[ACC1224]

Oh, I thought phone hearing meant an automatic 5 games. My apologies.

In person I believe means they can go over 5 games not that they have to go over 5 games.
I may be wrong though. I'm sure it will be jumped all over if that's incorrect.

 

[AvroArrow]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but these were the exact same officials from that abomination game 2 of the 2019 playoffs vs Boston, which literally was the worst officiated game I have ever seen. Fans of other fan bases were shocked at the calls/non-calls of that game and how much Boston was allowed to get away with, with no call. Then that led to the Kadri hit. This Jets game was very similar, same type of bullshit plays by Winnipeg that go uncalled, ultimately the players takeover and you see Spezza making that retaliatory hit on Pionk. Brad Meier should not have a job officiating at any level, the guy is a f***ing clown.

I couldn't believe wtf happened yesterday, but after seeing this I'm not even surprised. Brad Meier should be banned from officiating leaf games for life if they're not going to fire him, guy is a complete f***ing jackass. Bieksa even called him out on air after retiring for being the worst referee he had ever seen during his time as a player.

 

[Legion34]

Spezza should just leave them on read.

Don’t even show up. 20 years history and a joke of a league allows bush league reffing. Take your lumps and move on. Go on vacation for a week

 

[Gallagbi]

Sounds about right for the NHL and how they handle these things. What a joke of a league

 

[Fogelhund]

The resulting hearings, fines, and suspensions are about what is expected. This is a result, of poor officiating, and a poor DoPs. I'm not arguing that Simmonds shouldn't get fined, he should. I'm not arguing that Spezza shouldn't be suspended... he should... but when you lose control of a game, as a ref, this is what happens. It shouldn't happen, and our reaction shouldn't be part of the game... but our reaction was necessary, due to poor officiating. The league is terrible at refereeing, and post game punishment.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

If I'm Spezza, I wear whatever this suspension is like a badge of honour. Good for him. The league is obviously a joke, what Pionk did was an order of magnitude worse but whatever. Fully expecting 5 games for Spezza (or it wouldn't be in person) and 1 or 2 for Pionk. Game in March will hopefully be the real discipline since the NHL doesn't want to deal with it properly.

 

[Leafslet]

Even if they can give 1 game, you dont request in person without the intention of going over 5.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If I'm Spezza, I wear whatever this suspension is like a badge of honour. Good for him. The league is obviously a joke, what Pionk did was an order of magnitude worse but whatever. Fully expecting 5 games for Spezza (or it wouldn't be in person) and 1 or 2 for Pionk. Game in March will hopefully be the real discipline since the NHL doesn't want to deal with it properly.

As far as the game in March being the real discipline, I wish I could say I'm confident that this will be the case. Unfortunately though ...

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

This is literally game 2 2019 all over again. Leafs for defending themselves will face more punishment from that moustached f*** Parros than the Jets for actually being the dirty team.

This league is such a f***ing JOKE. They’ll go out of their way to protect and defend goons and let the actual star players to rot. Matthews hasn’t drawn a single penalty at 5 on 5 this year.

 

[SprDaVE]

The resulting hearings, fines, and suspensions are about what is expected. This is a result, of poor officiating, and a poor DoPs. I'm not arguing that Simmonds shouldn't get fined, he should. I'm not arguing that Spezza shouldn't be suspended... he should... but when you lose control of a game, as a ref, this is what happens. It shouldn't happen, and our reaction shouldn't be part of the game... but our reaction was necessary, due to poor officiating. The league is terrible at refereeing, and post game punishment.

Well said.

 

[Leafidelity]

Almost positive Parros has CTE

 

[Duffman955]

Wtf is Simmonds fine for?

 

[TGB]

Hell, I would have just walked off the ice and called the forfeit. When the refs are clearly allowing the other team to take a run at my players, and my players are getting suspensions thrown at them left and right for defending themselves-and the game is out of hand-why even bother finishing the game? There were more runs at Leafs players during the last minutes, including at Matthews. It's so not worth sticking around for that.

Pionk had clearly stuck out the leg (...intent?). .

If you watched the video of Sandin's hit, you can clearly see Pionk has his eyes squarely on Sandin leading all the way to the hit. He had every intention of nailing Sandin as hard as he could.

Sadly, Spezza also clearly intended to do as much damage as possible, and while it was probably deserved, he doesn't have any more right to injure someone. His punishment is well deserved.

 

[123offtheglass]

Ignoring this because it was "accidental"?

 

[LeafsFan89]

Wtf is Simmonds fine for?

No idea. Refs probably complained to Pirate Parros that they couldn't protect the Winnipeg players from Simmonds and made them look inept.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Wtf is Simmonds fine for?

Crosscheck off the faceoff I believe.

 

[Alkalinesky]

MLSE should come out with a statement refusing to ice the team if Brad Meier is scheduled. Make a statement that this kind of obvious dereliction of duty resulting in serious injuries to players will not be tolerated. Call their bluff. Something drastic has to happen, or it's going to be even worse next time.

 

[Bellefour20]

Is it not 5 games min for in person meetings?

If the Leafs are always going to get the worst from the DoPS no matter the circumstances, then screw waiting for the right opportunity to get a dirty turtle back, just Domi him. Going to pay for it either way.

 

[zeke]

Leafs are going to lose 2 players longterm because the refs didn't call that dirty ass shit by Pionk, and the Jets will lose nothing.

Way to go NHL.

 

[Alkalinesky]

Is it not 5 games min for in person meetings?

If the Leafs are always going to get the worst from the DoPS no matter the circumstances, then screw waiting for the right opportunity to get a dirty turtle back, just Domi him. Going to pay for it either way.

Didn't Lemieux get an in-person for the biting/eating incident and it was only 3 games? I think they can go over 5, but it's not required. I would expect 3-4 based on no history and the circumstances of the hit.

 

[67Cup]

Do they ever send refs who don’t or can’t do their jobs down to the AHL? If so, I can name a couple of candidates.

 

[zeke]

Simmonds got fined for fighting?

 

[Cor]

Is it not 5 games min for in person meetings?

If the Leafs are always going to get the worst from the DoPS no matter the circumstances, then screw waiting for the right opportunity to get a dirty turtle back, just Domi him. Going to pay for it either way.

No minimum for in-person, but allows them to do more than 5 games.

however, generally the league only offer in-person if they intend to do 5 or more

 

[AvroArrow]

Ignoring this because it was "accidental"?

And Foligno the night before taking a run at Campbell