Sure wish they tracked ice time or shift lengths. There could be no complaints that Musty doesn't get the ice time with 2 minute shifts on back to back power plays.
Sudbury Wolves 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 4)
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Disapointing game, but it's 2 points at the end of the day and +1 over North Bay.
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Great game and a pat on the back for Vondi in the shoot out, always loved him. Could you imagine this team if we would have went all in?
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same toxic fans not even happy when team beats a big rivalry, unbelievable.
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Huuuuuge win. Delic with a beauty snipe to tie things up in the 3rd. And Vondras with a huge game saver in the OT on Romani. Big game tomorrow night at home. Will be intense
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NB made an adjustment on the pk. Had Ertel I believe, play tight at the point on dvorsky and using the body. Eliminating him from the play. I'd like to see the coaching staff make that adjustment tomorrow night to counter that.
Solid effort big forecheck to start the game and good backchecking in the third. 4 goals by our 4 top guys and McCoy very good. Second period was bad but team found a way. Good job. It didn’t look like we were the smaller team on the ice. Not at all…
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I think I agree moving Delic to Center. As well move Giroux down to Center the third line. But a win is a win. I’m sure North Bay fans can’t be happy with the loss.
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Up 2-0after 1 and dominating the first. Have to put the nail in the coffin. Can’t let NB get back into the game and then take the lead the way they did. Good fight from wolves to come back and salvaging points. NB dominated the overtime. Sudbury not valuing possession in the extra frame. They have to be better. I don’t care that they won. Not happy with the way they played the second half of the game.
Both of these teams will make the playoffs - the only thing to play out is how far they will get.
Can't comprehend the choice's for shootout.
3rd shooter, score and we win the game and they send out Mania. No offence to him but not seen as a goal score.
They had Giroux, Delic, Goyette, Konyen all available and went with a D to win
I understand they won, but it was in spite of the coaching
3rd shooter, score and we win the game and they send out Mania. No offence to him but not seen as a goal score.
They had Giroux, Delic, Goyette, Konyen all available and went with a D to win
I understand they won, but it was in spite of the coaching
Good point. The team does shootouts in practices and tracks who scores the most. It's actually Walton. Mania not near the top. Not suggesting they put out Walton (although what then is the point of tracking shootout success in practices) but Mania? Guess the coach went with his "gut".
Agreed about Mania being a strange choice, but the shootout is some voodoo where it's not always the guys you expect that excel
Goyette is 1/9 in his OHL career on the shootout, Musty 1/8, honestly, looking back at the last 3 seasons, Wolves don't really have anyone who excels in the shootout historically. Pharand going 2/3 last year is about as good as it gets.
I hate when fans judge on shootout choices...obviously never played the game at any competitive level. Shootout situations are toyed around with at every practice in some form or another. These choices are based off of what is seen at practice. If a D man shows a knack for scoring in a 1 on 0 situation in practice there's a good chance he'll get a crack at in a game. In this case Mania actually does have some slick mitts, although I'm speaking as someone who has only watched parts of 2 practices this season and 1 of them Mania was still rehabbing early in the season. The point is that shootout chances are earned at practice and not a lot of fans have eyes on practice regularly.
I'd go as far as say deception is probably the most important skill in the shootout. Mania is one of the best on the team when it comes to using feints and deception to change up angles.
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Even funnier is just prior to that the “little guy” asked McCallum to go and he declined and that was his response. Soft, soft, soft player.
The coaches regularly ignore the shootout results at practices. They go by instinct during games.
Fair.
Let's talk overtime. Shifts are way too long. Not supporting the puck or maintaining possession in any way. Skating into defenders giving away the puck. Blind backhand passes. Chipping the puck into the neutral zone with no player around just giving possession away. No one taking care of the puck yet send the same six to eight guys out there.
Team needs to play better! Trying to be too fancy and make the harder play. No structure to enter the zone on the PP. Horrible zone entries.
This team needs to be way better! Win or lose, last night was not good enough after the first.
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I don't know how many times I counted Musty just losing the puck either with shit passes or just trying too much. By the end of the night I was pretty frustrated with his play. I understand he's a key piece to this team, but I think he has an extra gear or two he can reach. Maybe he's saving it for the playoffs.
On the other hand, I noticed NB making the same mistakes Sudbury did. PP zone entry was repeated time after time to no avail. Same giveaways and questionable goaltending. Big rebound led to the 2nd Wolves goal. I try not to be too hard on the Wolves cause I do notice a lot of teams make the same mistakes. Focus on one thing, fix it, make it routine and move on to the next.
Hopefully they can build off a strong showing by Vondras who made a huge save with 29 seconds to go in overtime on Romani I believe. Also kept us in it in the shootout obviously. I'm expecting him to get the start, but we'll most likely see Vandenberg between the pipes at home.
I thought the shifts were pretty short, Musty was the first one off in OT around the 50 second mark. Then Dvorsky about 30 seconds later. Wolves made about 4-5 line changes in the OT period. Possession however was definitely given away too easily, even with trying to cycle it back into the neutral zone.
On the other hand, I noticed NB making the same mistakes Sudbury did. PP zone entry was repeated time after time to no avail. Same giveaways and questionable goaltending. Big rebound led to the 2nd Wolves goal. I try not to be too hard on the Wolves cause I do notice a lot of teams make the same mistakes. Focus on one thing, fix it, make it routine and move on to the next.
Hopefully they can build off a strong showing by Vondras who made a huge save with 29 seconds to go in overtime on Romani I believe. Also kept us in it in the shootout obviously. I'm expecting him to get the start, but we'll most likely see Vandenberg between the pipes at home.
I thought the shifts were pretty short, Musty was the first one off in OT around the 50 second mark. Then Dvorsky about 30 seconds later. Wolves made about 4-5 line changes in the OT period. Possession however was definitely given away too easily, even with trying to cycle it back into the neutral zone.
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It’s easy for us to notice how many times we turn the puck over! But I’m sure the same can be said from fans from North Bay. Those are areas where if we improve we will be very difficult to beat.
One must notice though how our top players are creeping up the stat page. Imagine if Musty and Dvorsky played as many games as the top 5 guys. I do have to say our top players are scoring consistently. If we can get more from Giroux, Delic, Pharand, Walton and Villy consistently we would be really .dangerous.
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One must notice though how our top players are creeping up the stat page. Imagine if Musty and Dvorsky played as many games as the top 5 guys. I do have to say our top players are scoring consistently. If we can get more from Giroux, Delic, Pharand, Walton and Villy consistently we would be really .dangerous.
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Here's a different take. One of the problems this team is having is because they play Musty and Dvorsky too much. The top players are "scoring consistently" as they are on the ice so much. Some actually refuse direct coaches instructions to come off. One of the new guys from a trade has commented that he's never been on a team with so little accountability from some of the top players. Further if you want consistent play from some of the others then you have to play them more often and consistently. Its tough getting into the game flow for some of these players. The favouritism on this team, the lack of accountability and the over reliance on a few is well known amongst the players. That also explains why guys like Beck and Mayer and others rejected the Wolves after speaking with some of their buddies on this team. This is entirely on the coaches not at all the players.
You claim to know a lot about these players and how they interact with each other and their coaches for that matter.
Accusation of favoritism is a very personal level claim.
I'm speculating that you are somehow connected with a 3rd or 4th liner from the team?
Can you shed any light on how you have such up close a personal points of view for how this team operates daily ?
Just curious
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