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Sudbury Wolves 2022-23 Season Thread
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I Loveallsports
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I didn't mind the effort tonight. If they can play with the same intensity most games we could have some fun hockey to watch. They need a couple of tweaks in a couple of areas tho.
I'm hoping Musty will decide to buyin and play on both ends of the ice. I've yet to see him lay a check on an opponent and or take a man out of the play. These fly buy stick checks are not effective in the least.
I'm hoping Musty will decide to buyin and play on both ends of the ice. I've yet to see him lay a check on an opponent and or take a man out of the play. These fly buy stick checks are not effective in the least.
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Well that wraps up the month of October. That's four losses in a row folks. Head home to meet the Soo on Wednesday then Niagara and Missy Friday and Sunday. Better hope for a turn around. Villy heads out West now to play in the Under 17 tourney. So he will be gone for around 2 weeks. Mauro is our extra forward. Not sure what's up with Delic and Robinson. With Delic in the line up tonight would of been a big plus with the speed of the game. Robinson unsure of his absence but can only hope that this is the last of him and we bring in a better OA. I would have thought Derbidge would have been dealt this week since we would be losing Villy to the under 17. This team really does need some help. They have to salvage this season. They cannot afford to miss the playoffs again.
Tonights game I liked the effort for the most part. Walton saw no ice in the third and I thought he should have. Had jump and feel for the puck on his stick. Defence still having lots of trouble moving the puck out and getting pinned down low and causing turnovers. Collins is really having a tough time. Not sure what it is but he was struggling getting it out. Chromiak I thought had a much better game. Seems to be coming around. Still very young so I don't expect a lot from him. Ranger if he could of made a couple of big stops maybe we come out with at least a point tonight.
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Tonights game I liked the effort for the most part. Walton saw no ice in the third and I thought he should have. Had jump and feel for the puck on his stick. Defence still having lots of trouble moving the puck out and getting pinned down low and causing turnovers. Collins is really having a tough time. Not sure what it is but he was struggling getting it out. Chromiak I thought had a much better game. Seems to be coming around. Still very young so I don't expect a lot from him. Ranger if he could of made a couple of big stops maybe we come out with at least a point tonight.
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thought effort was good, the PK has to be better, we had a lapse there that turned game around. It seems that left slot seems to be issue seems alot goals coming from there, need to cleanup.
I didn't mind the lines tonight I liked that Walton and Villeneuve were in the top 6.
I thought Musty had a really good first period and half kind of tailed off in the third, I do like Pharand at centre seems responsible adds size up the middle, I can see him picking up during the course of season at that position.
I thought Walton was very good, like WJ said was buried in the third, he seems to be one of our natural scorers on this team. I thought Konyon had a good game too, like to see him bury more of his chances.
Not sure what is happening on Defence, really backing into Ranger instead of taking players up high. Ricciardi got to get this Defence into form, there is enough talent on the backend, we need to be cleaner coming out zone.
I didn't mind the lines tonight I liked that Walton and Villeneuve were in the top 6.
I thought Musty had a really good first period and half kind of tailed off in the third, I do like Pharand at centre seems responsible adds size up the middle, I can see him picking up during the course of season at that position.
I thought Walton was very good, like WJ said was buried in the third, he seems to be one of our natural scorers on this team. I thought Konyon had a good game too, like to see him bury more of his chances.
Not sure what is happening on Defence, really backing into Ranger instead of taking players up high. Ricciardi got to get this Defence into form, there is enough talent on the backend, we need to be cleaner coming out zone.
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Totally agree. Our gap is bad. We need to be up tight coming thru NZ and taking at our Blue Line. For this to work we always need the high forward back tracking for support. Mania and Chromiack were good last game. Way too many turn overs at both blue lines (including about 20 offsides on zone entry). D play by entire team has to improve, can’t win giving up 6 and 5 goals a night. Opposition are getting so many clean open looks and our poor tenders have to bail the team out. We know this team can score, we are a big fast team. First priority is DZ coverage, all five must collapse and stay inside the puck and support each other. No looping. No blowing the zone. No hoping and praying your teammate will win the puck. Inside the puck and layered defence needs to be priority. When we do have the puck, need quicker ups! Next, Zero turn overs in NZ. Rarely happens but that needs to be the goal. Also, no turn overs at either blue line. Get pucks out to regroup or change lines and chip behind D in OZ…Lastly Special Teams need more work. Sounds complicated but really not.
I did not see game. Quick question. Is the d backing in because they are outnumbered on the rush or is there a forward picking up a guy.? In games I have seen it is usually the latter. Of course a lot of times it was one of the d caught up too.
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On the Many NZ turn overs the D are jumping up to join the rush(see 3rd tying goal last night). When our D are backing up to blue paint in our crease it’s because very little back track support. Due to no responsible high forward or shifts too long. We have the will to create offence and score highlight reel goals but the same passion and commitment to sound D is absent…needs to be a priority. In the OT loss to Barrie and at various times this season I’ve seen great team defence. But if we get behind in a game (usually due to penalties) we immediately abandon our D game and start playing run and gun… We have a pretty young D core, without Robinson so forward group has to be more committed in our end.
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Read the Kingston Frontinac’s posts about solid DZ play and great goaltending have them playing winning hockey. If you take care of your own zone, be clean thru the NZ, and the goals will come. Our players are so offensively gifted I’m not worried about the OZ (except the PP). LOL
The Sudbury Star article and everything mentioned in the above posts is coaching. Poor special teams, poor team defense, inability to protect a lead etc has never improved over the last year. This Isn’t a personnel issue because there is a lot of talent here, this is very clearly a coaching issue. Papineau brought in non local assistants for a reason, make the change now.
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I’m not going to defend Duncanson.
I will say the same things that I said at the time of hire. Papineau settled for a local coach partly because there was little interest from better out of town options to attach their wagon to that roster. And Duncanson never stood a chance.
The wolves right now do not have a legitimate top pairing D. The wolves right now do not have a scoring line of 19-20 yr olds to fill out the top 6. The wolves are not going to approach mediocrity until that happens.
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Kingstons doing well after going for it last year. Just traded an OA dman to Guelph, no Wright among others and seem to be doing quite well. What’s wrong in Sudbury??? Selling the sizzle not the steak Paps!
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Yeah I agree on the 19 and 20 year olds not being your top scorers. DeGrazia was expected to be one of those guys. I wanted to see Sudbury get an OA forward like Diaco, Avery or Morrison. Or another trade for another 19 year old. Drop Robinson and should of kept Hoover. Then you would have had an older line made up of DeGrazia, OA, 19 year old forward, the Goyette line and so on. Ranger in goal and then you see how the defence does and go from there. Word was Robinson was on the way out after his injury to end his season. For some reason Papineau elected to bring him back. That was the first mistake and then you have all the other stuff to where we are today.
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Both teams have solid goaltending, a top notch 18 yr old centre, and some young talent. I’d say the difference between SBY & KGN right now is a very good 19 yr old Arcuri leading his team and a legitimate top pairing in Hache-Roger.
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Shoulda woulda coulda with Hoover but it's done
Wolves, want what they think is fair value for Derbridge. Other GM's sayin hold up a minute, we don't think he's worth that much etc. He's had a very small body of work. Remember he chose to leave and is not a top prospect.
It is what it is
Points taken but that does not explain why this group can’t hold leads, kill penalties, continually miss players in their own zone and make the same mistakes they did last year. Team defense is pretty much positioning, work and hustle. Talent is secondary in this case. That is the one area a coach has a lot of control over and this area hasn’t improved at all. We could have a secondary scoring line and a top pairing defenceman but if this area of the ice is not being paid attention to it doesn’t matter.
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Just pointing out the mistakes imo. Take it for what’s worth. He’s always been one to hold onto guys that don’t produce and then at the deadline try’s to correct things and ends up rebuilding or over paying. Sometimes the simplest moves to swap out guys makes a huge difference. Could be a waiver pick up, a small deal 19 for 19 etc…. The fact is something needs to change fast or else we stay in the cellar.
Nothing is wrong with trying a different look with a pick up. It can bring energy, surprise… I look at the Cubs and the recent add from flint in Assinewai. He’s a good player that could add some energy and hustle. Why not sign the kid.
WJ
Did Assinewail clear waivers? He could excel in a bottom six role on 12/20 teams, I think.
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I may have seen Assinewai in ~12 Flint games including playoffs; fast, reliable with the puck, physically involved considering his weight, and effective PK.
Players that they were counting on from trades last season just not coming through, Goyette is the only player so far that is a legitimate threat when he is on the ice. Unfortunately teams are developing quicker than the wolves and that is a big concern going forward. I would only hope Paps realizes this. The value we put on players is not recognized by the rest of the league and Hoover is a prime example. Maybe just plugging away hoping for a turnaround just doesn’t cut it.
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