Player Discussion Stuart Skinner

[TheNumber4]

You're stating this in the middle of a game in which Skinner is being outplayed by an AHL goalie in his first NHL start. Skinner has every advantage in this and isn't facing McDrai, Boochbombs etc. For a first game this game would be a nightmare. Skinner isn't having to face that and is down.

Booch makes two perfect shots on the Young Yotes goalie, he stops both. They were the same shots as Bjugstad beat Skinner with. Yotes are also shooting high, got the memo.

Couldn’t watch the game today. Will watch later. Although 1 game or HALF game samples are mostly irrelevant when trying to read a goalies quality. I’m sure detractors freaked out over the goals against but I havent seen them yet. Looks like he held the fort and kept it to 3. An average performance but I’m sure people will act like he absolutely shit the bed without realizing that perfect goalies on an 82 game basis don’t exist. In any case, let’s agree to disagree, if/when Skinner fails for an extended period of time there will be time for your victory lap.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Couldn’t watch the game today. Will watch later. Although 1 game or HALF game samples are mostly irrelevant when trying to read a goalies quality. I’m sure detractors freaked out over the goals against but I havent seen them yet. Looks like he held the fort and kept it to 3. An average performance but I’m sure people will act like he absolutely shit the bed without realizing that perfect goalies on an 82 game basis don’t exist. In any case, let’s agree to disagree, if/when Skinner fails for an extended period of time there will be time for your victory lap.

Yotes were dead on a B2B. had nothing going in third, only 2 shots if you could call them that until a late PP. Skinner could have slept most of the period. Puck was in Yotes end for 15mins.

 

[GMofOilers]

Once again the team bails him out. Hes got a 880 save in his last 4 starts and has won 2 and lost 2

We cant not going into the playoffs with him starting again this year as it will be the same result.

 

[TheNumber4]

Yotes were dead on a B2B. had nothing going in third, only 2 shots if you could call them that until a late PP. Skinner could have slept most of the period. Puck was in Yotes end for 15mins.

One game. And a small stretch of reduced play. Matches much of the downturn of the entire line up since the ASG break. In a larger sample he’s being considered for Team Canada and got All Star of the Month nods. I’m sure you praised him during that time too atleast I would hope. I’m okay if he isn’t perfect for an 82 game stretch, no goalies are.

 

[GOilers88]

Once again the team bails him out. Hes got a 880 save in his last 4 starts and has won 2 and lost 2

We cant not going into the playoffs with him starting again this year as it will be the same result.

The team isn't going and getting a starter to relegate Stu to backup and then stapling him to the bench for the playoffs. He's the guy.

Now acquiring an insurance policy I agree with. Pickard couldn't have done more so far. He's done exactly what's been asked, but you need someone else with a track record behind Skinner, or at least with him.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Has his moments but he’s been more good then bad in his young career and he stands tall when the team needs him to. You can tell the team really trusts him.

 

[TheNumber4]

Once again the team bails him out. Hes got a 880 save in his last 4 starts and has won 2 and lost 2

We cant not going into the playoffs with him starting again this year as it will be the same result.

Yeh we should trade for Fleury. Oh wait he had a 4 game stretch of .865 in January. So guess he’s out too.

 

[Spawn]

One game. And a small stretch of reduced play. Matches much of the downturn of the entire line up since the ASG break. In a larger sample he’s being considered for Team Canada and got All Star of the Month nods. I’m sure you praised him during that time too atleast I would hope. I’m okay if he isn’t perfect for an 82 game stretch, no goalies are.

We're ~2/3rds of the way through the season and Skinner has a ~.906 sv%. Lets not pretend like he's otherwise been great outside of this last stretch of hockey.

Before the teams 16 win streak Skinner was: 11-9-1 with an .884 sv%
During the 16 game winning streak he went 12-0-0 with a .950 sv%.
Since the streak he is 2-3 with an .880 sv%

At very best its a coin flip whether or not we're going to get a goalie who you can even start in a game in the playoffs. But yah, lets just roll with Pickard as his backup.

 

[TheNumber4]

We're ~2/3rds of the way through the season and Skinner has a ~.906 sv%. Lets not pretend like he's otherwise been great outside of this last stretch of hockey.

Before the teams 16 win streak Skinner was: 11-9-1 with an .884 sv%
During the 16 game winning streak he went 12-0-0 with a .950 sv%.
Since the streak he is 2-3 with an .880 sv%

At very best its a coin flip whether or not we're going to get a goalie who you can even start in a game in the playoffs. But yah, lets just roll with Pickard as his backup.

Under a failed Woody system. It’s tough to compare Skinner to other goalies behind a system that’s been in place all year and has worked. Objectively you’d look at Skinner behind one system, cause he’s compared to goalies behind one system.

 

[Spawn]

Under a failed Woody system. It’s tough to compare Skinner to other goalies behind a system that’s been in place all year and has worked. Objectively you’d look at Skinner behind one system, cause he’s compared to goalies behind one system.

If you take out all games coached by Woodcroft he’s still a sub .900 goalie outside of the win streak.

He’s not consistent enough.

 

[TheNumber4]

If you take out all games coached by Woodcroft he’s still a sub .900 goalie outside of the win streak.

Why would I take out the win streak which showed our system at its best (mostly, we dwindled near the end and Skinner held the fort) and therefore Skinner at his best?

 

[Spawn]

Why would I take out the win streak which showed our system at its best and therefore Skinner at his best?

You’re the one who has been trying to discount his bad performances.

His season as a whole has not been nearly good enough to think this team can win a cup with him as the starter.

 

[TheNumber4]

You’re the one who has been trying to discount his bad performances.

His season as a whole has not been nearly good enough to think this team can win a cup with him as the starter.

No I’m not. I’m the one that wants to view his performance under Knob and not under Knob. So why would it make sense to take out 16 games worth of Knob hockey? The biased selection is taking out 16 games of his best play and trying to make some sort of determination based on that. His season under Knob is atleast on the level of then unproven goalies like Francouz and Hill who won Cups. Would I like him to be Vasy level and have that kind of confidence? Sure, but unfortunately that’s a fantasy not many teams have the luxury of. Luckily for us the Avs and Knights have already proven that there is a path with good enough.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Skinner was shaky in the first two periods but he was solid in the third, especially that pad save on Crouse. I think he’ll be fine. He just needs to start off strong like he did during that win streak

 

[Spawn]

Skinner was shaky in the first two periods but he was solid in the third, especially that pad save on Crouse. I think he’ll be fine. He just needs to start off strong like he did during that win streak

And if he starts off poorly? Like he did to start this season? Like he did to start last playoffs?

 

[Sra1974]

We're ~2/3rds of the way through the season and Skinner has a ~.906 sv%. Lets not pretend like he's otherwise been great outside of this last stretch of hockey.

Before the teams 16 win streak Skinner was: 11-9-1 with an .884 sv%
During the 16 game winning streak he went 12-0-0 with a .950 sv%.
Since the streak he is 2-3 with an .880 sv%

At very best its a coin flip whether or not we're going to get a goalie who you can even start in a game in the playoffs. But yah, lets just roll with Pickard as his backup.

Let’s also not pretend that how his team has played has contributed massively to the numbers he’s had, both positively and negatively. Right now he appears to be a league average goalie, and he’s not likely to steal many nights for the team but he also helps them hang in there long enough to get their crap together, Tonight is an example of just that.

 

[Spawn]

Let’s also not pretend that how his team has played has contributed massively to the numbers he’s had, both positively and negatively. Right now he appears to be a league average goalie, and he’s not likely to steal many nights for the team but he also helps them hang in there king enough to get their crap together, Tonight is an example of just that.

He didnt do shit tonight. He was as much a reason the team was down going into the 3rd period as anyone else. Can’t get beat clean twice by Bjugstad when you’re square to him.

 

[Sra1974]

He didnt do shit tonight. He was as much a reason the team was down going into the 3rd period as anyone else. Can’t get beat clean twice by Bjugstad when you’re square to him.

He made some great saves at 3-2 when the oilers were still asleep. Yeah, he’d want one of those back so he contributed to where they were but he helped the bleeding stop before the team got into the game.

 

[RandomGuy79]

And if he starts off poorly? Like he did to start this season? Like he did to start last playoffs?

Don't think anyone is against bringing in a 1B type of guy to share the load and help him out. Campbell was suppose to be that guy, unfortunately it did not work out as planned.

 

[McTonyBrar]

And if he starts off poorly? Like he did to start this season? Like he did to start last playoffs?

And if he doesn’t based on his experience? Last year he was a rookie. I love how you and the rest of the biased, negative fans can’t ever accept that the guy was a ROOKIE GOALTENDER in the NHL.

He didnt do shit tonight. He was as much a reason the team was down going into the 3rd period as anyone else. Can’t get beat clean twice by Bjugstad when you’re square to him.

Lolol yet you forget what happened after the third goal. Do you even watch the games man?

 

[Spawn]

And if he doesn’t based on his experience? Last year he was a rookie. I love how you and the rest of the biased, negative fans can’t ever accept that the guy was a ROOKIE GOALTENDER in the NHL.

Problem is he’s continued that wild inconsistency into this season.

 

[McTonyBrar]

Problem is he’s continued that wild inconsistency into this season.

When? Because I only saw it at the start of the season when Woodcroft and Manson took a big shart along with Jack Campbell. These last 3 games Skinner hasn’t been the best but he hasn’t been awful either.

I’m seeing Helleybuck, Demko and Vasi play average the last week and a half and no one is saying anything about them on our board

 

[Not Canada Drai]

When? Because I only saw it at the start of the season when Woodcroft and Manson took a big shart along with Jack Campbell. These last 3 games Skinner hasn’t been the best but he hasn’t been awful either.

I’m seeing Helleybuck, Demko and Vasi play average the last week and a half and no one is saying anything about them on our board

Literally just quoting you to say shart is a top 10 word. Versatile and cracks me up every time.

 

[Spawn]

When? Because I only saw it at the start of the season when Woodcroft and Manson took a big shart along with Jack Campbell. These last 3 games Skinner hasn’t been the best but he hasn’t been awful either.

I’m seeing Helleybuck, Demko and Vasi play average the last week and a half and no one is saying anything about them on our board

I already highlighted when earlier in the thread. You can go ahead and be obtuse about it if you want

 

[DaGap]

I mean talk of goaltending is hilarious.
Has nobody been watching other teams since after the ASB?