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Taking a break from the injury stuff....

This team is very good defensively and somehow became elite at face offs overnight.

Their importance remains overrated but it's comical how they went from almost the worst to almost the best in an offseason. The only big add they made there was Bonino and he doesn't play that much.

Still can't score for f*** 5v5 but at least now they're doing their part to make sure their opponent can't either.
 
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HockeyBasedNYC said:
Also - the way I see it:

If the players on the ice, especially Fox himself took issue with the contact, then it was dirty.

If it was accidental you wouldn't see as much outrage and calling out from Trouba, Laf, Lav, etc.

You would also see more of a fight put up by Aho, that POS, because he wouldve felt he didnt do anything wrong. If you watch the clip again, Aho looks right at Fox before the collision.
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Aho aimed to obstruct Fox seeing that Foxy was moving in. That said I don't think Aho stuck out his leg or was looking to do so; in that sense the conscious intent for a dirty play, like a typical Slubban slewfoot, was not there. It was a bog standard, if blatant, Carolina play that happened to injure a player this time.

Also I think Fox has been bothered by something lower body for a long time, so hopefully they are preemptively careful to not aggravate anything.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
Taking a break from the injury stuff....

This team is very good defensively and somehow became elite at face offs overnight.

Their importance remains overrated but it's comical how they went from almost the worst to almost the best in an offseason. The only big add they made there was Bonino and he doesn't play that much.

Still can't score for f*** 5v5 but at least now they're doing their part to make sure their opponent can't either.
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Panarin line is producing opportunities imo.

Zibs really needs to adapt and figure it out. I don’t know what’s going on with him. He fumbles the puck a lot too which kills potential plays. He needs to be roaming the slot and finally use his wrist shot. Kakko is married to the boards. That line has no identity

I think Tro line will start picking it up. Old man Wheeler is the X factor.
 
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duhmetreE said:
Panarin line is producing opportunities imo.

Zibs really needs to adapt and figure it out. I don’t know what’s going on with him. He fumbles the puck a lot too which kills potential plays. He needs to be roaming the slot and finally use his wrist shot. Kakko is married to the boards. That line has no identity

I think Tro line will start picking it up. Old man Wheeler is the X factor.
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If Chytil is out awhile, more ice time might help a guy like Wheeler who is used to playing a lot. I thought he looked real good in the 3rd period
 
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McRanger92 said:
If Chytil is out awhile, more ice time might help a guy like Wheeler who is used to playing a lot. I thought he looked real good in the 3rd period
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I thought so to. Who knows if that third line stays together if Chytil is out but I hope they do.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
Taking a break from the injury stuff....

This team is very good defensively and somehow became elite at face offs overnight.

Their importance remains overrated but it's comical how they went from almost the worst to almost the best in an offseason. The only big add they made there was Bonino and he doesn't play that much.

Still can't score for f*** 5v5 but at least now they're doing their part to make sure their opponent can't either.
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If the team wants to score 5v5 they need d who can move the puck outside of Fox, and pinch well. Let's take a look.

Lindy is a heart and guts guy that the team hates when he's not there. Can't be moved.
Miller is a that unicorn big guy with reach who can skate. Can't be moved.
Trouba, well he's the captain and physical guy. Can't be moved.
Schneider is a kid as d goes and he's third pair.
Gus well he's on the 3rd pair anyway.

Best thing to do is to work on the transition game, which has a lot to do with the forwards skating in the d zone and neutral zone and quick puck movement from the d, and teach the d when to pinch and hold the offensive blue line (like Trouba did on the winning play). It's still early in the season so things should improve. That said, I think management and coaches will always ere on the side of caution. This team/org is happy pushing the puck north with basic plays.
 
bl02 said:
I thought so to. Who knows if that third line stays together if Chytil is out but I hope they do.
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Think troch would move up to play with Bread and Laf, which im cool with. Would almost prefer Bonino between Cuylle and Wheeler with his faceoff ability. Goodrow is an offense killer as a 3C. I think playing him in the middle with Vesey and hopefully a healthy Pitlick could cover his shortcomings. Thats how id play this out at least
 
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I don't know what Wheeler can do to offset his slowness. There was a play in the third period where he read a play to be intercepted for a transition the other way and he just couldn't get there. His mind was there. His eyes were there. He was hustling to get to the puck, but his body refused.
 
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McRanger92 said:
Think troch would move up to play with Bread and Laf, which im cool with. Would almost prefer Bonino between Cuylle and Wheeler with his faceoff ability. Goodrow is an offense killer as a 3C. I think playing him in the middle with Vesey and hopefully a healthy Pitlick could cover his shortcomings. Thats how id play this out at least
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I mean i know it wasn't a primary assist but he got in the on the forecheck and moved the puck around to Trouba who eventually set up Cuylle for the game winner. I don't care honestly if Goodrow or Bonino is 3c of 4c but I don't think Bonino is better.

On the Cuylle game winner if that was Kakko he would have either tried to make 4 dekes before shooting the puck in tight or after all those deke's gonna around the net lol
 
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duhmetreE said:
Panarin line is producing opportunities imo.

Zibs really needs to adapt and figure it out. I don’t know what’s going on with him. He fumbles the puck a lot too which kills potential plays. He needs to be roaming the slot and finally use his wrist shot. Kakko is married to the boards. That line has no identity

I think Tro line will start picking it up. Old man Wheeler is the X factor.
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I said at the start of the season that first line RW with Kreider and Zib is a trap position for Kakko. He's a much better fit chemistry/style wise with Trochek and Cuylle which has nothing to do with first line or third line this or that.

Zib skates a lot to cover ice, but he's also all over the place, which is why Panarin also has trouble playing with him. Nobody on the Zib line attacks the slot, especially the high slot. If they are going to try and play a cycle game that line must have d that can stand up on the blue line to keep the cycle alive.

Kakko needs to get off the boards since the cycle game is not working. The last few games he's been using the boards as his "safe space". He needs to skate and attack the slot with speed. He's not even trying things anymore which is kind of sad to see. He's kind of playing "floaty" like Kreider and Zibs do but he is not in a position to do so, since the pressure for him to produce points is very real. It's a mildly f***ed up situation.

Last game Kakko had a few shifts where he wasn't skating and he was awful. Then he had a few shifts where he moved his feet and he was much better (same with Laffy).
 
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CLW said:
I said at the start of the season that first line RW with Kreider and Zib is a trap position for Kakko. He's a much better fit chemistry/style wise with Trochek and Cuylle which has nothing to do with first line or third line this or that.

Zib skates a lot to cover ice, but he's also all over the place, which is why Panarin also has trouble playing with him. Nobody on that line attacks the slot, especially the high slot. If they are going to try and play a cycle game that line must have d that can stand up on the blue line to keep the cycle alive.

Kakko needs to get off the boards since the cycle game is not working. The last few games he's been using the boards as his "safe space". He needs to skate and attack the slot with speed. He's not even trying things anymore which is kind of sad to see. He's kind of playing "floaty" like Kreider and Zibs do but he is not in a position to do so, since the pressure for him to produce points is very real. It's a mildly f***ed up situation.

Last game Kakko had a few shifts where he wasn't skating and he was awful. Then he had a few shifts where he moved his feet and he was much better (same with Laffy).
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If Chytil is going to be missing games, I hope Lavi moves Kakko off that line as part of the line juggling.
 
nyr2k2 said:
I love watching Tony D on the winner. He's made to look foolish by his BFF Trouba (lol) and then decides the appropriate course of action is to go stand next to the side of the net doing absolutely nothing.
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Watching the replay last night, he gets beat and then ignores Cuylle moving into the slot so that he can head behind the net? That little rat has zero defensive awareness.
 
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Take it for what its worth but just now on Sirius NHL radio a Ranger fan (who regularly calls in) said he heard from a good source (adam fox dad) that it's a sprained MCL.
 
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GoAwayPanarin said:
I'm going to say this once and it should be pinned until we hear otherwise.

Pain (or lack of pain) is not a sign that this wasn't that bad
Him coming back to play a shift or 2 does not mean everything is fine.
Instability, not pain, is the main sign of an ACL tear (there is pain associated with it, but it doesn't have to be excruciating.)
ACL tears are "rare" in the sense that they don't happen to everyone in hockey but we still see probably on average 3-5 of them every season so they DO happen. Kirby Dach is already out for the year with one.

It's a good idea to not get too caught up in all of the hooplah and just wait for the results though. He's probably not going to miss the year with an ACL tear, I don't think the force was there for it but he's certainly going to miss some time. Aho should be dealt with the next time the Rangers play the Canes. If he doesn't want to answer the bell then the issue should be forced upon him.




Even super freak human athletes can shoot more than 2 MPH.
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Yo haven’t watched a lot of Matt Robertson, heh?
 
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