Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Jordan Binnington signs extension with the Blues (6 years, $6M AAV)

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't think your right about the sharks being as good but that just also increases your argument for your comparison. Which I also think is fairly accurate. But I like binnys overall game more than Jones. Only time will tell.

This Blues team would only be slightly better than that Sharks team the season after they went to the Finals. I think it's close enough to dismiss the idea that the Blues are better. This Blues team is better offensively. That Sharks team was better defensively. It honestly makes no difference to me. Goalies are volatile no matter what's in front of them that investing term tends to go bad more than good and I don't see anything special from Binnington that makes him different. Niemi won a Cup too behind a great Hawks team but wasn't anything special. The Cup is a bad argument for a goalie's abilities.

 

[Schmooley]

I have Hart and Price with Fluery, binnington, Kuemper competing for the third.

Would be great if Hart is the starter Id love to see them lose

 

[BlueMed]

This Blues team would only be slightly better than that Sharks team the season after they went to the Finals. I think it's close enough to dismiss the idea that the Blues are better. This Blues team is better offensively. That Sharks team was better defensively. It honestly makes no difference to me. Goalies are volatile no matter what's in front of them that investing term tends to go bad more than good and I don't see anything special from Binnington that makes him different. Niemi won a Cup too behind a great Hawks team but wasn't anything special. The Cup is a bad argument for a goalie's abilities.

Binnington was a huge part of the cup run. He wasn't riding a good team in front of him.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Binnington was a huge part of the cup run. He wasn't riding a good team in front of him.

Neither was Jones when he signed the contract.

 

[Paulinbc]

A 6x6 for this f***er? Seems very high and very long.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Ya.... I don’t know about that one. Seems like 1mil a year too much and a year too long.

 

[thaman8765678]

Winning a cup gets you this contract. I don't think any Blues fan will be upset at all.

 

[Colt55]

Eh what are you going to do if you are the Blues. He's literally all you got in goal, and has been a solution for a problem area for them.

Wait for Joel Hoffer to develope

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Ya.... I don’t know about that one. Seems like 1mil a year too much and a year too long.

this...this is what I was hoping for.. and I'm a blues fan

and sorry, but the team wasn't all that stunk in the playoffs last year.. Binny was NOT good.. that being said, that was a wierd situation all around, which makes signing him to a 'fair' contract harder to do. basically lost half a season and playoffs to see him play due to covid

this year.. not too high, not too low.. he seems to be a pretty steady goalie, which isn't the worst thing in the world.. not sure it's worth 6 yrs, but... is what it is

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Wait for Joel Hoffer to develope

so you what.. play husso for the next 2 years while you wait for Hofer?
and if Binny walks, Husso HAS to be exposed to the ED.. so if he gets picked...?

I'm ready to see Hofer too.. think he's gonna be a good one, but doubt he's ready by next year.. maybe the year after he gets called up for some spot starts? dunno

 

[Colt55]

It's not good and it's not bad. It's simply what most goalies of his caliber make in this league and it's not like St. Louis has someone they could replace him with anyways.

Joel Hoffer in 1 to 2 years.

 

[Colt55]

so you what.. play husso for the next 2 years while you wait for Husso?
and if Binny walks, Husso HAS to be exposed to the ED.. so if he gets picked...?

I'm ready to see Hofer too.. think he's gonna be a good one, but doubt he's ready by next year.. maybe the year after he gets called up for some spot starts? dunno

No I was just replying we have more options. 1 to 2 years away and that would be fast tracked. I was merely stating we have options. Whether they are better right now wasn't the question.

 

[Colt55]

Funny thing is Holtby was signed to a 5x6 contract when he was much better than Binnington and was trash for the last 2 seasons of it. Doubt Binnington's holds up any better given that he already fell apart once last playoffs and the league seems to have the book on him now

Yeah and that was 6 years ago. So by hockey salary inflation the deal is good right....

 

[Colt55]

No, Vasi had better numbers. Vasi is a far superior goalie.

Binnington us a product of a good system + had amazing dmen last year. Nearly all the goals scored on him in the playoffs last year were in the same spot, other teams figured him out.

The team played like poo in front of him half the team was recovering from covid. Jay bow was hurt.... lol not even the same team. Also vas had the best team and defense in front of him .... lol

 

[Colt55]

That's what they said about Holtby lol.

At least Blackhawks were smart enough to get their cup with Niemi and move on after he was figured out, same as Pens with Murray

What about Crawford ypu guys paid and stuck with him forever really bad golaie

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

No I was just replying we have more options. 1 to 2 years away and that would be fast tracked. I was merely stating we have options. Whether they are better right now wasn't the question.

gotcha. like I said, Im as anxious as anyone to see Hofer (and Ellis too!) but there's a gap there that a team that's built to win now can't ignore

 

[Total Bender]

Canucks fan here, we won the series last year because Binnington is weak blocker side and is a hot head.

Once you get into Binnington's head, it's over.

$6 x 6 on flat cap over next 3 years? Not looking great there,

But honestly, Binnington's agent did a great job here.

Your team is absolute trash right now so I wouldn't necessarily say that series was a indicator of anything at all. Winning that series was actually completely meaningless.

 

[CanadienShark]

Going rate for starters. I wouldn't want him at that price, but you have to pay for stability and he provides that.

 

[Total Bender]

That difference is literally two wins in one year and the reality is that at the time of their signings, Jones was a much better playoff goalie and the Sharks were as good or better than the Blues are now. But go ahead and pretend like the difference you're pointing out actually makes a real difference to the point of whether you should commit to a goalie like this.

I'll commit to any goalie that gets inside the heads of Sharks fans like he clearly has yours.

 

[Colt55]

gotcha. like I said, Im as anxious as anyone to see Hofer (and Ellis too!) but there's a gap there that a team that's built to win now can't ignore

I also just realized that Ellis is killing it in qmjhl 16 wins in 16 games .922 and 1.89

 

[Colt55]

Going rate for starters. I wouldn't want him at that price, but you have to pay for stability and he provides that.

Seeing as you have dubnyk and Jones whom are very bad goalies. But hey pay Karlsson that crazy contract lol 12mil.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

Yeah and that was 6 years ago. So by hockey salary inflation the deal is good right....

For other teams in the central yeah.

 

[deckercky]

What about Crawford ypu guys paid and stuck with him forever really bad golaie

Crawford was arguably a top 5 goalie for much of that contract.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I'll commit to any goalie that gets inside the heads of Sharks fans like he clearly has yours.

You're being silly if you think any player is in my head. That's just something someone says when they don't actually have an intelligent response to make. Binnington has been a solid goalie. I'm perfectly capable of giving credit where it's due. My critique applies to all goalies and not just him. Stop acting like a homer.

 

[Saitama]

Seems like a decent deal for both parties.