Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Jordan Binnington signs extension with the Blues (6 years, $6M AAV)

[iamjs]

Bunch of sour patch kids in here from 2019 ovi

It’s a fair deal.

not sour since I don't really have a horse in this race since I'm not a Blues fan or a fan of any of their rivals, but I don't think this contract is gonna age well. I think 6y is way too long for a goaltender. I think he'll be fine for the first half of the contract. That 6m won't look as bad once the cap starts rising and takes a smaller percentage of the team's available cap, but I just don't like those long term goalie contracts.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Why so much hate for Billington?
6 million AAV for above average starter who proves he get perform in the playoffs is in the ball park range.
The thing about goalies is that they are voodoo and most don’t have longevity like a Linquist
Six years deal are too long for my liking

I wouldn't say he's proven. Cam Ward had one amazing run on the way to the cup and then sucked after.

Binnington hasnt been great since then

 

[izzy]

term on this deal kind of freaks me out

 

[Colt55]

For other teams in the central yeah.

No for all teams lol. Don't be jelly

 

[Colt55]

Crawford was arguably a top 5 goalie for much of that contract.

Arguably. He was souronded by great offense and really good defense. Once that faded so did his numbers.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

No for all teams lol. Don't be jelly

You don't get it since you blindly simp for every single Blues move and player but you signed the equivalent of post cup victory Antti Niemi with a worse blocker side to 6x6. No one is jelly lol.

 

[Colt55]

gotcha. like I said, Im as anxious as anyone to see Hofer (and Ellis too!) but there's a gap there that a team that's built to win now can't ignore

Yeah I say 2 years at the least unless Hoffer just kills it in ahl.

 

[Luck 6]

I wasn't expecting a discount. This is simply what it costs to keep a good goalie. I don't necessarily expect him to be an elite caliber goalie all 6 years, but he's proven he is good enough to be THE guy. That's the going rate these days. If the Blues didn't give him this someone else would have.

The only comparable I can think of signed in this flat cap market was Markstrom. I don’t think Binnington is quite as good as Markstrom, but it’s close. They got the exact same contract, but Binnington is about 4 years younger.

Overall it isn’t bad, but ya, I was thinking we may start to see a decline in contract prices this off-season. This suggests otherwise, this is basically a UFA type of contract or maybe just under.

He’s been playing roughly at the same level since April 2019. He started to return to earth before the SC playoffs.

He was fine last season and has been fine this season. He’s getting paid what a starting goalie normally goes for and I’d argue Binnington is at least above the league average as a starter.

Term is a little bit long for my liking but it is what it is and the contract won’t carry Binnington too far into his mid-30’s.




The signing is fine as the Blues have no one really ready aside from Husso(and he hasn’t shown much yet) and he’d be better than overpaying a FA.

If he is just slightly better than average, then you shouldn’t have given him a 6mil x 6 year deal. I hope he’s better than that, for Blues fans sake. He didn’t seem great in the playoffs, and doesn’t seem great this year so far. He was amazing before that though, so who knows.

 

[Colt55]

I wouldn't say he's proven. Cam Ward had one amazing run on the way to the cup and then sucked after.

Binnington hasnt been great since then

Ok tgis just shows ignorance.

Nhl.com had him ranked 3rd last year in wins with 30.
30 13 and 7.
2.56 .912

But yeah one year wonder

So far this year

That had him in

 

[fasterthanlight]

good goalie but he seems like kind of a jerk lol. congrats to stl. hope he doesn't become martin jones 2.0

 

[Colt55]

You don't get it since you blindly simp for every single Blues move and player but you signed the equivalent of post cup victory Antti Niemi with a worse blocker side to 6x6. No one is jelly lol.

Your right I don't understand it at all. I only know my team inside and out. I realize he is the most stable goalie the blues have had since cujo. He was phenomenal during the cup and when the blues tighten up their defence you will see his numbers improve. He is well above average and is performing better then a lot of goalies paid more. There is no need to be salty here.

 

[Colt55]

The only comparable I can think of signed in this flat cap market was Markstrom. I don’t think Binnington is quite as good as Markstrom, but it’s close. They got the exact same contract, but Binnington is about 4 years younger.

Overall it isn’t bad, but ya, I was thinking we may start to see a decline in contract prices this off-season. This suggests otherwise, this is basically a UFA type of contract or maybe just under.



If he is just slightly better than average, then you shouldn’t have given him a 6mil x 6 year deal. I hope he’s better than that, for Blues fans sake. He didn’t seem great in the playoffs, and doesn’t seem great this year so far. He was amazing before that though, so who knows.

See everyone always says 6 mil is to much he was making 5 its not like he is making 10.5. Besides in 3 years six for a well above average goalie will look amazing.

 

[Luck 6]

See everyone always says 6 mil is to much he was making 5 its not like he is making 10.5. Besides in 3 years six for a well above average goalie will look amazing.

There’s supposed to be a flat cap for the next 3 years or so, so really, the contract is going to begin to look worse rather than better. That’s my point, you’d THINK that would result in a lower cap hit.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Ok tgis just shows ignorance.

Nhl.com had him ranked 3rd last year in wins with 30.
30 13 and 7.
2.56 .912

But yeah one year wonder

So far this year

That had him in

,912 puts him at 27th for goalies who played at least 24 games last season.

He had a .851 in the playoffs...

Hes currently 20th with a .908sv%

That's supposed to be good?

 

[Colt55]

,912 puts him at 27th for goalies who played at least 24 games last season.

He had a .851 in the playoffs...

Hes currently 20th with a .908sv%

That's supposed to be good?

Once again the team was either sick or recovering from covid in playoffs. The blues have stopped playing in at least 5 to 6 games this year blowing leads. Yes Binner is a great goalie. I'm sorry you don't like this but 6 mil for 6 years is a good contract.

 

[Colt55]

There’s supposed to be a flat cap for the next 3 years or so, so really, the contract is going to begin to look worse rather than better. That’s my point, you’d THINK that would result in a lower cap hit.

As soon as people are allowed back in things will change. Lol

 

[Just Linda]

The team played like poo in front of him half the team was recovering from covid. Jay bow was hurt.... lol not even the same team. Also vas had the best team and defense in front of him .... lol

And yet equal shot opportunity to equal shot opportunity, Binnington still posted below average numbers.

Its rediculous that people in this thread are comparing him to Vasi. One is a below average starter, the other is Vezina quality.

 

[mouser]

As soon as people are allowed back in things will change. Lol

No. We're looking at years of a flat cap due to the overpayment to the players this season.

 

[Colt55]

Also last note then I am done with the stupidity going on here.

The blues have the following players Injured which is causing the team to be worse then they are. The ones with stars were vital in blues stanley cup run and great regular season. That's a lot of players missing.

Jaden schwartz *
Robert thomas *
Ivan barbashev *
Tyler bozak *
Carl gunnerson
Colton parayko *
Oskar sundqvist *
Jacob delarose

 

[RedMenace]

Without reading the thread, and I know what I'm in for with that...

I dunno, seems like a lot to pay for a kid with 1 really good season.

 

[Tryblot]

6m?
Yikes

Yikes? What do you mean? If we're to go by your judgment of every tape to tape pass from a Canucks player is the greatest thing you've ever seen and every Dave makes Demko the god of goalies wouldn't Bennington be okay? Maybe because he doesn't have that Canucks jersey on you don't hype them up the same way. Is that it? Is it the jersey that makes each individual play the greatest you've ever seen?

Like for example, if hoglander was a blue would he be a yikes? Or is it because he's a Canucks he deserves a post everytime he steps on the ice about how he's such a great player?

I'm just trying to get a sense on how you evaluate players here?

 

[JAK]

Your team is absolute trash right now so I wouldn't necessarily say that series was a indicator of anything at all. Winning that series was actually completely meaningless.

My team is still going through growing pains, my estimation is that next year we will see growth and the year after is when people will have to take the Canucks seriously.

 

[Just Linda]

Your right I don't understand it at all. I only know my team inside and out. I realize he is the most stable goalie the blues have had since cujo. He was phenomenal during the cup and when the blues tighten up their defence you will see his numbers improve. He is well above average and is performing better then a lot of goalies paid more. There is no need to be salty here.

Here's a good link for you. It shows that by every equitable measure, Binnington is not what you are quite passionately defending him as.

NHL Goalie Statistics

 

[JetsFan815]

Torts sat Laine, though I don't know why.

Paying him for past performances instead of future ones. Should have let him walk if he wanted that much and tried to sign Freddy Andersen in the off season. Would be cheaper, as good or better in the net and would demand a lower term.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Dont think money is bad, more the term Id be concerned about. If you believe in him then your fine with it, and Armstrong does so thats that.

My opinion may be too heavily weighted on his playoff struggles in the bubble, but I dont know if Im a believer.