Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Jordan Binnington signs extension with the Blues (6 years, $6M AAV)

[sxvnert]

He'll be fine after the Blues rebuild their D core.

 

[Just Linda]

The real question. What's team Canada's depth chart gonna look like? Have fleury binny and price. Army may show a little bias.

I have Hart and Price with Fluery, binnington, Kuemper competing for the third.

 

[Em etah Eh]

I can't help but think we've already seen the best of him, and this won't look good pretty quickly. But the money isn't insane.

This is how I feel and I’m a blues fan. We went short term to see how he would look after catching lightning in a bottle in year one and I don’t think he did enough to earn 6x6. I would have let him test the waters at that price, but I’m a fan that would rather go bargain bin shopping for a goalie so take my opinion for what it’s worth. There’s very few goalies I’d feel comfortable giving 5 or more years to.

 

[Total Bender]

I love that the fans of losing teams hate Binnington so much. I think he'll end up being just above average but 6x6 is worth it just to hear you all cry.

 

[Benighted]

I have Hart and Price with Fluery, binnington, Kuemper competing for the third.

That's definitely possible. I think Armstrong will value experience more though

 

[Benighted]

I love that the fans of losing teams hate Binnington so much. I think he'll end up being just above average but 6x6 is worth it just to hear you all cry.

Love this

 

[flying v 604]

Yeah he's no Braden Holtby am I right? What's his numbers look like this year?

What a dumb comment. One was signed to be exposed at 4 million for 2 years and one was given 6×6.
Plus our GM rightfully refused to sign Marky to the same binny got.
But way to try and deflect since this is a gross deal who got paid off a one year run.

Blues fans must be NERVOUS.

 

[JAK]

I love that the fans of losing teams hate Binnington so much. I think he'll end up being just above average but 6x6 is worth it just to hear you all cry.

Canucks fan here, we won the series last year because Binnington is weak blocker side and is a hot head.

Once you get into Binnington's head, it's over.

$6 x 6 on flat cap over next 3 years? Not looking great there,

But honestly, Binnington's agent did a great job here.

 

[flying v 604]

The guy thinks 6 million is too much when his team has braden for 8.6 for two years . Do I need to draw a picture to explain its relevancy or are you good? Go look at stats and tell me the difference isn't worth that extra.

So 4.3 over 2 years is equal to 36 over 6? Gotcha, our math is a little different here in Canada I guess.
You also leave out the fact Holtby was signed mostly as a safety net and to meet expansion needs.

 

[jetsforever]

That term is risky but it'll probably be a decent contract.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Canucks fan here, we won the series last year because Binnington is weak blocker side and is a hot head.

Once you get into Binnington's head, it's over.

$6 x 6 on flat cap over next 3 years? Not looking great there,

But honestly, Binnington's agent did a great job here.

Like half our team was recovering from COVID.

 

[Benighted]

What a dumb comment. One was signed to be exposed at 4 million for 2 years and one was given 6×6.
Plus our GM rightfully refused to sign Marky to the same binny got.
But way to try and deflect since this is a gross deal who got paid off a one year run.

Blues fans must be NERVOUS.

Sorry didn't mean to strike a nerve.

 

[Benighted]

So 4.3 over 2 years is equal to 36 over 6? Gotcha, our math is a little different here in Canada I guess.
You also leave out the fact Holtby was signed mostly as a safety net and to meet expansion needs.

For the purposes of the money spent per year and the production levels, yeah its worse. I am not pretending like this isn't a bigger contract. I was just arguing that if we want above average production to win a cup we do this. If we want a guy to stand in the net and try to squeak into the playoffs, we do what you did. That's all I'm saying.

 

[flying v 604]

Exactly this. Alternate option is let him go, he easily signs this same deal with like 1 out of 20 other teams who give it to him and we sign a worse goalie to save pennies on the dollar. Makes no sense to not lock him up for this standard rate, not to mention the ntc falls off when r window shuts

I fully admit as a Nucks fan I hate the prick, maybe that affects my POV but you comparing the Holtby deal after Benning had the stones to walk away from the exact same deal binnington signed as Marky was a bit of a reach.

I just think with goalies unless they are undeniably elite and still young, a long term deal may end up sucking.
It's the reason I was not big on keeping Marky.

 

[wacko2]

Too long, too much. Good, not great goalkeeper.

 

[JoshFromMO]

Pretty good breakdown of Binnington's performance (click for a full thread):



I agree with the summary....not the worst contract, but more than I think he should be paid. A solid starter is worth $6M in this market, but Binnington is struggling this season, right at that crossroad where goalies will either prove themselves as longterm legit goalies, or falter as their flaws get figured out. I would be concerned about committing so much cap space for so long. I think 3-4 years at $6M would have been on point.

I would like to point out that we are icing some players who started the season in the ECHL right now from all the injuries we've had

 

[Louie the Blue]

Pretty good breakdown of Binnington's performance (click for a full thread):



I agree with the summary....not the worst contract, but more than I think he should be paid. A solid starter is worth $6M in this market, but Binnington is struggling this season, right at that crossroad where goalies will either prove themselves as longterm legit goalies, or falter as their flaws get figured out. I would be concerned about committing so much cap space for so long. I think 3-4 years at $6M would have been on point.

Well, Binnington can only do so much when the Blues are playing with so many guys out of the lineup and are playing people who should be playing in the ECHL currently.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

You know the difference between Jones and Binner?

Binner has a cup and a better team in front of him

That difference is literally two wins in one year and the reality is that at the time of their signings, Jones was a much better playoff goalie and the Sharks were as good or better than the Blues are now. But go ahead and pretend like the difference you're pointing out actually makes a real difference to the point of whether you should commit to a goalie like this.

 

[BlueMed]

Too long, too much. Good, not great goalkeeper.

Binnington is a lot like Toews. He's not flashy, but he provides solid all-around ability, intangibles, and clutch performances in the playoffs. How many other goaltenders in the league give you that?

 

[Benighted]

That difference is literally two wins in one year and the reality is that at the time of their signings, Jones was a much better playoff goalie and the Sharks were as good or better than the Blues are now. But go ahead and pretend like the difference you're pointing out actually makes a real difference to the point of whether you should commit to a goalie like this.

I don't think your right about the sharks being as good but that just also increases your argument for your comparison. Which I also think is fairly accurate. But I like binnys overall game more than Jones. Only time will tell.

 

[wacko2]

Binnington is a lot like Toews. He's not flashy, but he provides solid all-around ability, intangibles, and clutch performances in the playoffs. How many other goaltenders in the league give you that?

Once he was clutch. Maybe I'm wrong but I see an overpayment here

 

[Benighted]

Once he was clutch. Maybe I'm wrong but I see an overpayment here

That's the thing about clutch. You can't be it all the time.

 

[wacko2]

That's the thing about clutch. You can't be it all the time.

And being clutch once describes a lot of players NOT making huge dough my friend.

 

[BlueMed]

Once he was clutch. Maybe I'm wrong but I see an overpayment here

He was clutch throughout the 2019 playoffs. It wasn't one game.

 

[Benighted]

And being clutch once describes a lot of players NOT making huge dough my friend.

I didn't say he was just clutch once. He has already been way more clutch than once lol. But he can't be in this persistent clutch mode. No one can. That's not what it means lol