Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

[Robtom18]

With out a doubt. Just having krug who looked bad out all year (he was struggling with injury) faulk will be healthy kessel growd a year more suter looked good for dallas and broberg. Thats solid with jospeh as a 7 man.

I think eventually broberg coukd be paraykos jaybo....i have a feeling

Laugh it up.

Just for fun, here is what I feel about the chances of offer matching possibilities:

Both offers are matched = 1% chance. The options to trade away just 2 players (to keep at least 20 man roster) to get under the cap are quite slim. Basically, it would have to be Kane+Ceci/Kulak. There are probably some more elaborate multi-player deals out there to be had, but with 1 week to work on this, I do not think it's happening. 1% means never say never.

Broberg only is matched = 19% chance. To make this happen Oilers need to trade away both Ceci and Kulak. Honestly, I would be tempted to do that, just not impressed with either Ceci or Kulak that much. However, this isn't something that the team going for the Cup does, would be a bold and risky move. Plus, Oilers have been likely trying to trade one of these guys all summer long (what's the cap plan otherwise?), so probably isn't that easy to do one, never mind both.

Holloway only is matched = 70% chance. Without Holloway, Oilers lose speed, and would be forced to downgrade at F (Lorentz? Hamblin?) at league minimum just to ice 12 forwards on the opening night. Counting on somebody like Lavoie or Savoie is not a Cup contender plan.

Neither is matched = 10% chance. This would be an emotional, ego, "we do not need you anyway" kind of move. Gotta leave some room for that.

So what your saying is there is a chance.....

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Gord Stellick said last season that Holloway could be a young Gary Roberts in the making.

 

[Andrei79]

This is what happens when you get drunk and sign guys like Nurse and Campbell to those brutal deals. Awful mismanagement by Edmonton yet again.

 

[Realm]

Just for fun, here is what I feel about the chances of offer matching possibilities:

Both offers are matched = 1% chance. The options to trade away just 2 players (to keep at least 20 man roster) to get under the cap are quite slim. Basically, it would have to be Kane+Ceci/Kulak. There are probably some more elaborate multi-player deals out there to be had, but with 1 week to work on this, I do not think it's happening. 1% means never say never.

Broberg only is matched = 19% chance. To make this happen Oilers need to trade away both Ceci and Kulak. Honestly, I would be tempted to do that, just not impressed with either Ceci or Kulak that much. However, this isn't something that the team going for the Cup does, would be a bold and risky move. Plus, Oilers have been likely trying to trade one of these guys all summer long (what's the cap plan otherwise?), so probably isn't that easy to do one, never mind both.

Holloway only is matched = 70% chance. Without Holloway, Oilers lose speed, and would be forced to downgrade at F (Lorentz? Hamblin?) at league minimum just to ice 12 forwards on the opening night. Counting on somebody like Lavoie or Savoie is not a Cup contender plan.

Neither is matched = 10% chance. This would be an emotional, ego, "we do not need you anyway" kind of move. Gotta leave some room for that.

Ill say 25% both are matched. 60% its Holloway alone, 10% its Broberg alone, and 5% neither.

Those 13 games clearly got Zadorov a bottom pairing dman, prone to turnovers and a 20 point guy paid.

Those 13 games also made sure Lindholm got what he got. Neither of them played anywhere near the value of the contracts they got.

Crazy that you dont understand that you cant compare how Zadorov and Lindholm did in playing 13 games in the 1st 2 rounds compared to what I was saying about Broberg playing 0 games in the 1st 2 rounds.

 

[BlueSeal]

If I was GM of the Oilers, I'd cut losses and match the OS. Broberg is the Dman I would give a chance to at half of what The Curse is making. If he really wanted 1.8m and they balked, then that organization is stupid.

I'd buyout Nurse (1.53m for 12 years), shop Skinner and picks to acquire a bonafide playoff netminder and work from there. My goal wouldn't be signing Drai this season, it would be to win the Cup. If Drai decides to leave after that, whatever, but the time is now and the ownership there is absolutely tone deaf and asleep at the wheel.

Which is vunderful for us.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

If I was GM of the Oilers, I'd cut losses and match the OS. Broberg is the Dman I would give a chance to at half of what The Curse is making. If he really wanted 1.8m and they balked, then that organization is stupid.

I'd buyout Nurse (1.53m for 12 years), shop Skinner and picks to acquire a bonafide playoff netminder and work from there. My goal wouldn't be signing Drai this season, it would be to win the Cup. If Drai decides to leave after that, whatever, but the time is now and the ownership there is absolutely tone deaf and asleep at the wheel.

Which is vunderful for us.

Nurse is buyout proof.

 

[beardo]

Their draft positions are irrelevant at this point

It kind of is relevant you’ve heard of asset management right? Lol. Two first for a second and a third. Negative value son.

Those guys are going to be there regardless, eventually.

If that's a players fate, he's not good enough for the NHL

Yes that is my point. Take the bag, nothing is guaranteed.

 

[beardo]

It’s not like this cripples the Oilers, I don’t know why everyone is getting so butt hurt about this. The Oilers will still be really good, in a perfect world you’d like to flesh out the team with some skill on cost controlled contacts, that’s all it is homies. Oilers are still legit. I say this as a Canucks fan.

 

[kingpest19]

And how old were Crosby, Malkin, OV, Kane, Toews, Kucherov, Mackinnon, Barkov when they last the cup?

Crosby was 29 Malkin was 30-31, Ov was 30, Kane and Toews were 27, Kucherov was 28, MacKinnon was 25 and Barkov is 28

 

[Pip]

It kind of is relevant you’ve heard of asset management right? Lol. Two first for a second and a third. Negative value son.

The draft picks they used on both players is sunk, it shouldn’t have any impact on this decision. It’s just evaluating the value of each player on their new contracts against the compensation and the moves that would be required to be cap compliant.

 

[H3ckt1k]

The draft picks they used on both players is sunk, it shouldn’t have any impact on this decision. It’s just evaluating the value of each player on their new contracts against the compensation and the moves that would be required to be cap compliant.

A lot of people are missing this key point.

 

[Devonator]

This is what happens when you get drunk and sign guys like Nurse and Campbell to those brutal deals. Awful mismanagement by Edmonton yet again.

To be fair, Edmonton is hardly the only team that has sign over the top contracts.....and one must remember, they just recently came within one goal of winning the Stanley Cup....I think they will be allright

 

[Rowlet]

If I was GM of the Oilers, I'd cut losses and match the OS. Broberg is the Dman I would give a chance to at half of what The Curse is making. If he really wanted 1.8m and they balked, then that organization is stupid.

I'd buyout Nurse (1.53m for 12 years), shop Skinner and picks to acquire a bonafide playoff netminder and work from there. My goal wouldn't be signing Drai this season, it would be to win the Cup. If Drai decides to leave after that, whatever, but the time is now and the ownership there is absolutely tone deaf and asleep at the wheel.

Which is vunderful for us.

That's the financial cost, the cap hit is -1.5m for the first year and then 9.5 until 2030, then 1.53 until 2036.

 

[Xirik]

That's the financial cost, the cap hit is -1.5m for the first year and then 9.5 until 2030, then 1.53 until 2036.

That some Kovalchuk contract length

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

How can they. They need to clear 7 mil in space. They hace 4 days left

Kane is out several months so he could be LTIR’d

That’s 5.25 mill saved right there
Maybe a Ceci trade
Maybe send Perry and Ryan to the minors

There’s ways

 

[BlueSeal]

That's the financial cost, the cap hit is -1.5m for the first year and then 9.5 until 2030, then 1.53 until 2036.

Welllllllll

Never mind then! Jeeeeeeeeez.....

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

f*** ya Blues! Buncha crotchety old farts not doing anything and St. Louis is just like “wabam! I brought 2 juicy meatballs to this meeting. There they are, on the table. My balls. My meatballs.”

Idk how GM meetings go, but I imagine it’s a lot of that.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Their draft positions are irrelevant at this point

Sounds like something Pip would say

 

[Reality Czech]

Again, my reply was to "no one takes a pay cut to play in Edmonton". It was to "no young player takes a pay cut to play in Edmonton". Broberg & Holloway can't take a pay cut anymore to stay in Edmonton, not sure if you're aware.

Work on your reading comprehension, then reply. Thanks.


Cool. That's not what I was replying to.

Everyone knows Edmonton is among the least desirable markets to play in due to a number of factors, which is why they often have to overpay players to come or stay. Maybe that's why you're so grumpy. Check your attitude bud.

 

[Rubi]

Kane is out several months so he could be LTIR’d

That’s 5.25 mill saved right there
Maybe a Ceci trade
Maybe send Perry and Ryan to the minors

There’s ways

Typical recovery time for nhl players for sports hernia surgery is 12 weeks. If Kane has the surgery in late Aug or early Sept he should be ready to play by early December. LTIR'ing Kane won't solve their problem.. it will only postpone it for a couple of months into the season.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who were the other teams?

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

Who were the other teams?

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I’d guess at least one of Anaheim, Calgary, Columbus, or Utah

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Typical recovery time for nhl players for sports hernia surgery is 12 weeks. If Kane has the surgery in late Aug or early Sept he should be ready to play by early December. LTIR'ing Kane won't solve their problem.. it will only postpone it for a couple of months into the season.

Ya, it would buy time

 

[jackjohnson]

Oilers will somehow match. They not gonna take these weak draft picks.

Doubt it, they will be over the cap and would need to unload. To unload some bad contract they would need to use high picks as assets

 

[Three On Zero]

This is what happens when you get drunk and sign guys like Nurse and Campbell to those brutal deals. Awful mismanagement by Edmonton yet again.

Nurse and Campbell have nothing to do with it. It was prioritizing players like Skinner and Perry that ultimately caused this.