Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

[HockeyScotty]

That's what I'd expect. Especially after Oilers lost McLeod. But that also means the Oilers would likely need to add one of the veteran free agents still available as a depth defenseman.

Tyson Barrie on his way back to Edmonton?

 

[JKG33]

You've been playing the if's and but's game. It seems to rustle your jimmies that Oiler fans have confidence in their team.

Maybe if Demko played it would have been different. Maybe if Demko played, he gets injured again anyways. Maybe if demko played, the Canucks capitalize on poor Oilers goaltending and close it out. Maybe if Demko played, he has just as poor of a showing as other elite goalies did in the playoffs this year.

But Demko didn't play. Demko was hurt again. The Canucks didn't capitalize on poor goaltending, and then it morphed into really solid goaltending. The Canucks couldn't close it out, and they lost.

If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle. Who gives a shit?

Ya'll have been an awfully confident bunch for a team who got the easiest first 2 rounds imaginable, while avoiding Vegas who made the Oilers their bitch a year ago and Colorado who looked like the best team in the west.

I wouldn't count on that route happening two playoffs in a row. Surely they'll have to play someone besides LA eventually. And avoiding the two previous cup champs was a stroke of luck only the shitty divisional.playoff format could provide

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Id be looking at it as hurting the chances of my teammates, and I would never do that personally.

Yeah no offense but I call bs on that.

 

[mediator]

I love offersheets but neither guy really moves the needle much for the Blues

Ye can't help but feel like these are as much attempts to torpedo another franchise's cap situation as they are to improve your own roster

 

[JKG33]

why are you still crying 2 months later in a thread irrelevant to the topic? that playoff run must have broke you

It's completely relevant. Yall seem to be fine losing Broberg from an already brutal defence

 

[Reality Czech]

How many teams got to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final? Anything can happen but when you get that far and are running the same team back with reinforcements than yes, you are willingly leaving a team that has a strong chance at a Cup. If players don't want to be there on a team that strong you say goodbye and replace them with people who want to be there.

Sure, they have a great chance but these guys may never get a contract offer like this again. Or maybe they felt disrespected by the club for prioritizing other guys before them. I don't think there are many guys that age who are willing to leave millions on the table for a chance they win the Cup when the team would dump them for an upgrade at the blink of an eye if they could. But I get where you're coming from. The Blues have lost good players in recent years due to having too much depth, so there's always that risk. I'm sure the Oilers will be fine regardless, but this is probably a curve ball they weren't expecting.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Rather that than another game 7 finals embarrassment.

huh? Nucks have plenty of those

 

[snag]

Rather that than another game 7 finals embarrassment.

That's just dumb.

 

[McJedi]

You act like it's a foregone conclusion the Oilers are winning the Cup this year. You really expect these guys to leave millions on the table for the chance that they may win a Cup this year? The Oilers would trade either guy at the deadline if they felt it gave them a better chance of winning it all.



I can see that from the Oilers POV, but this is what can happen when you play fast and loose with your cap space. The players may have put themselves above the club, but did the club treat them fairly? What did the team do to earn the loyalty that you are expecting of them? And is it worth leaving a few million on the table to do the Oilers a solid? I feel like veterans are more likely to take a below market value deal to win a Cup, not young guys trying to sign their first big ticket.

It's hilarious. The Oilers are paying C Brown $3.25MM of current season cap space for last season where they fell just one game short of glory.

And that whole contract construct just blew up in the Oilers face spectacularly this morning. Consequences. Gotta love it.

The idea Drai now resigns is even less likely because the Oilers just got worse this morning. They just lost one and maybe two players on expected low low AAV deals playing middle six, middle pair minutes. They can pretend it's not, but the Oilers took one in the nuts today. Well.. two in the nuts. I'm sure their front office is freaking out. They now find themselves squarely between a rock and a hard place. And if they do nothing, all they get are measly 2nd and 3rd round picks... I guess they do have some more trade fodder I suppose. Can those picks be traded as soon as the 7 day window expires?

 

[Whileee]

They can match and stay under the off-season upper limit (10% over the $88 mil; or $96.8) as they would be at $95,225,541 if they did. That means they have more than 7 days to shed cap space in a trade (until the season opens).

Sure, but they would still have a lot of pressure to unload salary and that is likely going to be quite expensive.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

It's completely relevant. Yall seem to be fine losing Broberg from an already brutal defence

a brutal defense that made it to Game 7 of the Finals
really "brutal"

what's a great defense look like

 

[PuckG]

It's like we can't have an Oilers thread without hearing Demko was hurt and Silovs was a 3rd stringer.

All while ignoring injuries to any team that the Canucks have faced. Absolutely delusional…

 

[Frank the Tank]

That's just dumb.

Yeah, especially when they had a Game 7 embarrassment two rounds earlier.

 

[On The Prowl]

It's hilarious. The Oilers are paying C Brown $3.25MM of current season cap space for last season where they fell just one game short of glory.

And that whole contract construct just blew up in the Oilers face spectacularly this morning. Consequences. Gotta love it.

The idea Drai now resigns is even less likely because the Oilers just got worse this morning. They just lost one and maybe two players on expected low low AAV deals playing middle six, middle pair minutes. They can pretend it's not, but the Oilers took one in the nuts today. Well.. two in the nuts. I'm sure their front office is freaking out.

Which is why even if they match those contracts its only a matter of time before they are both gone.

 

[Fatass]

Those are depth players, if you cant see the difference between Draisaitl and those two i dont know why im still replying to you.

You’re the one who suggested Broberg and Holloway should accept one year low dollar contracts so they could stay in Edmonton and (therefore) have a good chance to win the Cup. IMO all players should pursue the most money they can, regardless of their age or status. Draisatl should get as much as he can too. If that means he has to leave as a UFA then he should.

 

[PocketNines]

The Penguins win the deal no matter what.

They traded a 2026 5th round pick to the Blues for the 2025 Ottawa 3d rounder so that the Blues could get the 2025 2d switched to a 2026 2d

 

[McHelpus]

Rather that than another game 7 finals embarrassment.

You guys got shut out at home in game 7, that's embarrassing.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Ya'll have been an awfully confident bunch for a team who got the easiest first 2 rounds imaginable, while avoiding Vegas who made the Oilers their bitch a year ago and Colorado who looked like the best team in the west.

I wouldn't count on that route happening two playoffs in a row. Surely they'll have to play someone besides LA eventually. And avoiding the two previous cup champs was a stroke of luck only the shitty divisional.playoff format could provide

Oilers played a 3rd place team and 3 straight Division winners

Vegas, the year before....played a WC team, 2nd place team...avoided the Cup champs...then another WC team in Florida that barely eeked into the playoffs, including an injured Tkachuk

but the Oilers path was "easy" LMAO

 

[ManofSteel55]

Silovs played 7 games and had an .882 sv %. To Oilers fans this is a great goalie. Having a vezina candidate instead would have made no difference in a 1 goal series.

It's pretty easy to categorize an entire series based off of save percentage. Silovs had awful save percentages in game 1 (which the Canucks won anyway) and 6 (where the Nucks only scored 1), which pulled his series save% way down. I could see an argument I suppose, for Demko stealing game 2 where Silovs lost it, but Vancouver didn't lose because of goaltending, they lost because they didn't score more than 2 goals in any of their losses in games 4, 6 or 7. So unless Demko was only letting one goal in those games, the Oilers still win them.

The biggest thing though, is that this series is played completely differently if Demko is in net. We can't say which team would have won based off of what happened, because the strategies would have been different for both sides.

 

[BruinsJoe]

So both players have signed ?

 

[McJedi]

Which is why even if they match those contracts its only a matter of time before they are both gone.

My friend, in the world of the hard salary cap, they can't match those offer sheets. They are already over the cap.

They'd need to make some major roster moves at the dead time of summer with zero leverage and a gun to their head.

Do they trade away RNH for the cap space? Hyman? Ekholm? Does that make the Oilers better?

You say it like it's as simple as putting pen to paper. You and I both know it's not that simple.

 

[HockeyScotty]

Sure, but they would still have a lot of pressure to unload salary and that is likely going to be quite expensive.

Understood, just that they have more time (nearly 2 months) than what people seem to assume on here.

 

[GOilers88]

Ya'll have been an awfully confident bunch for a team who got the easiest first 2 rounds imaginable, while avoiding Vegas who made the Oilers their bitch a year ago and Colorado who looked like the best team in the west.

I wouldn't count on that route happening two playoffs in a row. Surely they'll have to play someone besides LA eventually. And avoiding the two previous cup champs was a stroke of luck only the shitty divisional.playoff format could provide

You can keep coming up with all the caveats you want, it doesn't matter. You can discredit whatever teams you want, you can pump up whatever other teams you want. I don't care.

I'm confident in the Oilers because they just went to game 7 of the finals. They have the best player in hockey, and they made good moves this offseason.

The f*** do you want me to say? They suck, it was all a fluke and they don't stand a chance in hell? Use your brain.

 

[PuckG]

Ya'll have been an awfully confident bunch for a team who got the easiest first 2 rounds imaginable, while avoiding Vegas who made the Oilers their bitch a year ago and Colorado who looked like the best team in the west.

I wouldn't count on that route happening two playoffs in a row. Surely they'll have to play someone besides LA eventually. And avoiding the two previous cup champs was a stroke of luck only the shitty divisional.playoff format could provide

A lot of words just to be disingenuous again. If two seasons ago matters more to you than last season, you can’t be helped anyways.

Once again, reality > hypotheticals.

 

[Mr Positive]

Imo this was to get Broberg

Holloway is worth that but it's more than we would have paid. That extra hit makes the Broberg offer sheet hard to match

Broberg is the much more important player imo. Our defense is the weakness. He really had a coming out party this playoffs