Proposal: STL-EDM (including Draisaitl)
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Grand Admiral Thrawn
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I remember Quebec drafting Sundin, Lindros and Nolan in 1990 to 1992.
In 1995, Colorado's 1st year, they won the cup... and those 3 players were not part of that team.
Quebec traded some real stars to get a more complete and balanced team.
Oilers should learn from this.
You get a bonafied goalie, a star defenseman a depth forward or prospect and a pick, I do that trade for Leon.
Yeah losing him hurts, but it will benefit in the long run.
In 1995, Colorado's 1st year, they won the cup... and those 3 players were not part of that team.
Quebec traded some real stars to get a more complete and balanced team.
Oilers should learn from this.
You get a bonafied goalie, a star defenseman a depth forward or prospect and a pick, I do that trade for Leon.
Yeah losing him hurts, but it will benefit in the long run.
PuckG
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Have you looked at team needs at all?
With the addition of Kane, the biggest need is a goaltender. Based on this season, Binnington is a marginal improvement over Koskinen at best.
With the addition of Kane, the biggest need is a goaltender. Based on this season, Binnington is a marginal improvement over Koskinen at best.
Lol, so you think Kane is going to show up and save the team? I said it was fair, but the Oilers need a stronger defense as well.
PuckG
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No, I don't, but why on earth would we be trying to shore up the FORWARD group by trading the best forward in the deal, when goaltending is our biggest need. Again, Kane gives us depth up front and Binnington is a marginal improvement.
Blues need LHD help. I would rather have forward depth and improved d then this. Granted We get the best player in the dela
True, it should be for a stronger defenseman, I was just confused on first reading. I think Binnington is a pretty good upgrade, but that’s me.
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Edmonton just needs a goalie and a shutdown D at the TDL. Koskinen obviously going the other way.
There's no reason to trade Drai lol
There's no reason to trade Drai lol
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A deal for Draisaitl probably starts with a high-end defenseman and a 2nd line center. You'll almost certainly need to make it a three team deal to truly get what you need.
The Blues get the best player, but they don't have any problems scoring. What the Blues need is defense, so even if Mikkola isn't great, this probably makes them worse. If they're able to sign Husso and turn around and deal picks and prospects for Chychrun, maybe this works, but it's not a complete deal as is for either team.
The Blues get the best player, but they don't have any problems scoring. What the Blues need is defense, so even if Mikkola isn't great, this probably makes them worse. If they're able to sign Husso and turn around and deal picks and prospects for Chychrun, maybe this works, but it's not a complete deal as is for either team.
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Maybe so but i'm looking at the bigger picture. They might not even make the playoffs if they do they really could use some depth.
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They would need defensive depth, they should be OK with Kane's signing on the forward depth.
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no offense, but I don't think it helps either team.. not much anyways. Mikko and Binny would help EDM but not sure if it'd help them as much as they'd like
EDM needs a stud dman and a goalie
STL needs a stud LHD
in this trade the best pieces are Forwards, which neither team has a 'need' for. and even for Drai, I don't see STL trading F depth, especially fairly high end forwards
kudos for a 'give to get' proposal tho
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This really isn’t bad from the Blues side but at the same time it’s more of a why would you do it type of thing. Thomas and Buch are both great two-way players. I think that’s the only thing the Blue lose in this deal that can’t be replaced. Mikkola is solid but can’t handle the minutes we need him to yet. Binnington is better than Koskinen but Binner has been struggling a bit this season and Husso isn’t human.
I dunno it’s kind of a shake up type of move and unfortunately our forwards don’t need a shakeup near as bad as our defense does
I dunno it’s kind of a shake up type of move and unfortunately our forwards don’t need a shakeup near as bad as our defense does
So Binnington that has won a cup and had crazy win % is a marginal upgrade over Koskinen? At this point Spencer Martin is a big imptovement over Koskinen.
Oilers just need a goalie and a shutdown D???
They need a bonified number 1 goalie, 2 top 4D that know how to play D, and a couple of bottom 6 forwards that can score goals. I think a shutdown 3C would also be needed to help them go deep in playoffs. Oilers need a lot of components not just one goalie and one D. Unless you want the Oilers just to make playoffs and get swept in the first round lol.
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RNH is our 3C. Holloway isn’t even on the team yet lol. Our forward depth is fine.
We need a defenseman to bump Keith down to the third pair. Ideally a different style defenseman to replace Barrie on the right side but we can worry about that in the offseason.
Then obviously a starting goalie.
So 1-2 defenseman and a goalie is basically our biggest needs. Anything on top is nice to have but not a must. No reason to trade the second best player in the league for spare parts. We have other assets.
so a goalie with sub par playoff numbers and dwindling numbers in regular season, a bottom pairing dman and a middle 6 forward? only true value is buchnevich. the issue isnt go much regular season as it is post season. if oilers would want to trade drai they would want players with atleast a bit of term( no binnington doesnt count cause its starting to look like hes regressing) sure buch has 3 yrs after this but if oilers have to pay a few players like JP and Bouchard theyd be taking on to much salary. its quality over quantity oilers need.
in other words unless blues are willing to slaughter their roster/prospects and picks it wont happen. only way oilers dont hang up is if you start with "we will take kosk and kassian if you are willing to trade drai and yamo" then when holland says okay well what do you have to offer it better start with buch, neighbors, husso, and go from there because that offer doesnt seem appealing at all when theres the other 30 teams that would drop to make an offer for drai. as soon as they would get a sniff of edm getting an offer for drai. not only that mcdavid, drai, nurse are all close so im pretty sure atleast mcdavid would be having a say with holland. because if its not a team altering/guaranteeing cup contending trade for drai i bet mcdavid requests a trade.
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A starting goalie and shut down D is essentially all the they need.
Having more depth on D for the playoffs would be good too.
I didn't read anything else you wrote since it's been answered.
PuckG
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Surprise, most goalies are an improvement over Koskinen. But if our biggest need is a goaltender and the goaltender included in the trade that we are receiving for Leon ******* Draisaitl is Binnington, there is a serious problem with the trade.
Quite frankly, his previous cup means nothing to us. The same as Duncan Keith's previous cups mean nothing to us. Statistically, Binnington is a marginal improvement over Koskinen based on this years stats and the centre piece would not be Leon going back.
The remainer of the trade does not even account for the next biggest need (shut down LHD).
and even then oilers can make a trade with buffalo for tuch and thompson and it wouldnt cost drai. and that would solidify 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lines on rw with them and JP.
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U know nothing about Robert Thomas……
Trading for Draisaitl would involve an actual honest to goodness overpayment. I don't see that here.
When proposing a deal for one of the top players in the game signed long term on a sweetheart contract look at something on your roster you don't want to move and add.
From an Oilers perspective they need a #1D and probably a 2C to make them think about it.
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