Steve Valiquette accuses Jack Hughes

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meh. I don’t agree at all about the Forsberg “in game” comment. That’s a great move when executed well, I always loved Zhamnov doing it. I think I would’ve been annoyed at Hughes as a Rangers player but more annoyed at myself and my team that it had gotten to the point where Hughes can kind of goof off and not take a scoring chance more seriously because that’s a low percentage move from that angle so it came off as nonchalance. He can be money on breakaways and this wasn’t his best effort. I’d think the Devils coach would eye roll that attempt a bit.

Vali is being a homer (his job) and this is a bit of a Jack Edward’s impression here. I think his frustration is the Rangers general apathy. A part of me agrees with him, I think someone should’ve been annoyed that Hughes thinks this game is so easy he can not really bear down on a scoring chance - and maybe they were. You’d hope they were embarrassed it came to that moment. The response wouldn’t/shouldnt be a goon on Hughes of course, Panarin should make a better play the other direction, or if you really wanted a physical message to Hughes it should be one of the Rangers skill players making the effort. His point about the Rangers not having a response isn’t off, the way he says it misses the mark by mile.
 

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Sounds more like Valiquette is more mad at the Rangers sucking and lack of care than Jack Hughes really
 

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As a goalie, I have no idea how Valliquette feels this way. I have never felt disrespected by a move, let alone by a move as typical as the one-hand-tuck. The Kucherov might be the closest, but even there, if it goes in it was a good move, if I stop it, it’s nice they wasted a chance to extend the lead with a lower percentage play.
 

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As a goalie, I have no idea how Valliquette feels this way. I have never felt disrespected by a move, let alone by a move as typical as the one-hand-tuck. The Kucherov might be the closest, but even there, if it goes in it was a good move, if I stop it, it’s nice they wasted a chance to extend the lead with a lower percentage play.

I don't think it's a universal trait that all goalies adapt, but definitely have seen some goalies who absolutely despise deking. The best goalie I ever played with (in terms of in game performance) would utterly refuse to engage if you attempted a deke in any practice drill, just pretended you didn't exist if you didn't shoot by the hashmarks.
 
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I don't think it's a universal trait that all goalies adapt, but definitely have seen some goalies who absolutely despise deking. The best goalie I ever played with (in terms of in game performance) would utterly refuse to engage if you attempted a deke in any practice drill, just pretended you didn't exist if you didn't shoot by the hashmarks.
That's what practice is for. Your teammates should be shooting it directly into your pads just like the opponents would do in a a game
 

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It's pretty f***ed up that "about Jack Hughes here that you're doing to want to here." was somehow more coherent than whatever that dude was saying. I honestly thought I was having a stroke trying to figure out anything in this thread.
 

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It's really difficult to understand this perspective. I mean, yea, showboating and stuff will probably stir up some emotions from the other team, rightly or wrongly, but what a weird mountain to die on for that perspective.

How is this is any way disrespectful to anyone? He tried to deke the goalie, he didn't score, let's move on? Really don't understand where Valiquette is coming from.

The whole "disrespectful" argument is always so weak. The ones that are disrespectful most people would agree on. This is just really really trying hard to make something normal into a controversy.

What a dumb take.
 

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I think he'd have a better argument if this was late in a lopsided game, not in the 1st period. Even if you think Hughes was hot-dogging or showboating in a game that is still well in play for either team, I mean, let him?
 

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This old mfer doesn't even know about tiktok. "Instagram hockey" smh
 
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Even if he was intentionally trying to embarrass Shesterkin o don’t care. It’s a rivalry and if you can embarrass your rival in their own home do it. I mean don’t go planting any flags in the middle of the ice or anything but light them up.
 

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He’s have a point if this was a 5-0 game when Hughes did it, but if he’s so sure NYR can’t come back from 2-0 that he assumed the game was over. That speaks more about his faith in the team than the team itself.
 
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