The hit on Brass to me looked legal. I mean ****, it's the playoffs, you want your players to make that hit. The Stepan play, hey, you could be right, could be blatant attempt to injure. I'm simply saying I cannot assume that or that it's premeditated because only Prust really knows his intent. For ***** and giggles, I'll play a devil's advocate counter-argument. If Prust did intend a premeditated late hit with a head shot, does it seem practical he'd do that so out in the open, risking a potential major penalty which could have a massive impact in putting his team at risk of going down three games to none?
Injury Report: Stepan Broken Jaw. No timeline. Prust susp. 2 games
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The hit on Brass to me looked legal. I mean ****, it's the playoffs, you want your players to make that hit. The Stepan play, hey, you could be right, could be blatant attempt to injure. I'm simply saying I cannot assume that or that it's premeditated because only Prust really knows his intent. For ***** and giggles, I'll play a devil's advocate counter-argument. If Prust did intend a premeditated late hit with a head shot, does it seem practical he'd do that so out in the open, risking a potential major penalty which could have a massive impact in putting his team at risk of going down three games to none?
gardenparty
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Late hit...not necessarily dirty. Are the two mutually exclusive? I mean, I thought a late hit by its very nature IS dirty (not to mention the cheap shot was inflicted by the one player who was most outspoken about the Kreider-Price incident - in his words, "accidentally on purpose." What a coincidence!!).
So a guy who loses his footing skating at nearly 30 miles an hour really has time to make up his mind how he's going to fall? You've clearly never slipped on a patch of ice before (trust me, you don't get to decide where you're going to land). I feel badly for Price. I want the Rangers to play (and hopefully beat) their very best. Straight up. No excuses. But Kreider could just have easily broken his ankle on that play, and he's just not the type of player to intentionally take someone out of a game.
Ilovemymum
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Why two games? Prust will likely be back before Stepan, so this is pretty much an encouragement for fourth liners to take out 1st liners.
Sure Kreider had options. He could have gone to the net at half speed, because why would he want too use his #1 asset to create between himself and the defense? He also could have not gone for the shot once he was tripped, something which would have given him half a second more to avoid Price, because why would he try to get a shot off on a breakaway. It's a split second decision. Every hockey player in the world will be trying to get to that puck for a shot.
I do agree with you that the Canada bashing has no place.
Without the injury there's probably no suspension. Two games is fair when you consider what the likes of Aaron Rome and Matt Cooke got.
Saw someone say Stepan was blindsided. He had a lot of time to look up and see Prust coming.
Ilovemymum
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Isn't that what late hits are all about, that they come at a time when you don't expect to be hit? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRSl05vZZaI
- Late hit, high hit, facial area. He might have seen Prust coming, but didn't expect to get one in the jaw. I think two games are way to low. Don't know Rome & Cooke, but if the result was the same I'd say 5 games, as seems to be the maximum phone penalty for some reason.
He actually turns and skates towards Prust. It's not like was going away from Prust before he was hit.
This incident is not this bad if he looks where he's going. Like a dumbass kid in a supermarket who runs into an aisle looking the other way and gets wiped out by a trolley.
"Classy fan base", "Knowledgable fan base" What a bunch bull crap!
I am disgusted by the ranger fans on these boards that chose to throw some of us under the bus for stating the obvious. The majority of the Canadien fan base has shown their true faces, bunch of ignorant and whining hypocrites.
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jerseyjinx94
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Yeah, many of them hoping they injure more players. I took a peek at their board and they were saying stuff like good we evened it out or something. Granted I'd be pissed if it was Hank who went out Game 1 but if it was a good hockey play an not some dirty ****, I wouldn't be asking for retaliatory injuries. It's unsportsmanlike and ignorant.
slipknottin
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He doesn't need to look where he's going. He is no longer eligible to be checked seeing as he has long since gotten rid of the puck.
Unless you think anyone on the ice can be checked whenever without the puck.
Knowing Prust was there is not the same thing as expecting to be checked.
That would mean that you assume the refs would 1) notice the hit because it takes eight eyes usually to watch the puck 2) it's Montreal where 1 in 5 penalties are usually called and if Prust was counting out the infractions before a penalty would be called knowing that he was safe to deliver the illegal hit.
KOVALEV022473
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The fact that you are on the Rangers board arguing that a cheap and dirty hit that even Stephane Quintal deemed violent and late, means you're either blind or ignorant or both! I think you're here trolling and trying to incite us.
ArPanet
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If only Stepan hadn't been dressed like that, Prust wouldn't have been able to control himself. Right?
Funny you should use the term 'hypocrite'.
I'd say bashing Price on their boards after he just got hurt and complaining about how the MTL fans are classless on these boards at the same time is pretty hypocritical.
You know. Like you did.
eco's bones
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Weaver's hit on Brassard was a late hit. It wasn't really a dirty hit--definitely below the head area.
Prust's hit was dirty because--not only was it late--it was very late. Stepan said he took two strides after passing the puck. It was a blindside hit and it was a high hit--whether it started in his chest area or not--it eventually impacted his head enough to break his jaw. The NHL is not just supposed to be looking at head shots per se but hits that cause head injuries--particularly high hits--particularly blindside high hits and particularly very late, blindside high hits.
We see how serious the NHL is about taking them out of the game when a plug like Prust gets two games for pretty much checking off all the above criteria--while also causing a serious injury and while also having a history--though not extensive--he's had a previous suspension for a high hit and after making all kinds of bold threats in the press in the last week leading up to the actuality of following through on his threat.
So what kind of messages does the NHL send here?
1. If you happen to have a replaceable 4th liner--not really all that good for much you can send him on a mission to injure one of your opponents better players with pretty much negligible loss to your own side.
2. If you can't protect your own players--don't expect the NHL will. Though apparently they will take care of their officials--no matter how competent or incompetent.
Prust's hit was dirty because--not only was it late--it was very late. Stepan said he took two strides after passing the puck. It was a blindside hit and it was a high hit--whether it started in his chest area or not--it eventually impacted his head enough to break his jaw. The NHL is not just supposed to be looking at head shots per se but hits that cause head injuries--particularly high hits--particularly blindside high hits and particularly very late, blindside high hits.
We see how serious the NHL is about taking them out of the game when a plug like Prust gets two games for pretty much checking off all the above criteria--while also causing a serious injury and while also having a history--though not extensive--he's had a previous suspension for a high hit and after making all kinds of bold threats in the press in the last week leading up to the actuality of following through on his threat.
So what kind of messages does the NHL send here?
1. If you happen to have a replaceable 4th liner--not really all that good for much you can send him on a mission to injure one of your opponents better players with pretty much negligible loss to your own side.
2. If you can't protect your own players--don't expect the NHL will. Though apparently they will take care of their officials--no matter how competent or incompetent.
slipknottin
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Show me 1 post where i "bash" Price? Calling him a "promising young top 10 goalie" is that me bashing him?
Kreider did nothing wrong. All the BS propaganda from Therrien and the Canadiens notwithstanding. Habs fans continue to complain after their players do the same thing that they ***** about Boston players doing. It would be better if they just played hockey. A 4th liner targeting the Rangers #1 center with the league and officials being complicit. Wonder what will happen if we see Dorsett go knee on knee with PK Slewfoot. 2 games? I doubt it.
I really don't understand why Montreal fans can't see the obvious. Kreider was tripped. Regardless if he went in skates first, he WAS going to hit Price at full speed no matter what... because EMELIN TRIPPED HIM. Price was getting injured on that play as soon as Kreider sped past Emelin and he was forced to trip him.
Prust's hit was intentional. Simply put. Even if the hit wasn't directed at his head initially, he still followed through and broke a player's jaw. He should have been suspended 40 games through next season. There is no reason why he should the see ice again this year.
Prust's hit was intentional. Simply put. Even if the hit wasn't directed at his head initially, he still followed through and broke a player's jaw. He should have been suspended 40 games through next season. There is no reason why he should the see ice again this year.
Well the post was deleted, but I think it was something like. "Lollol #1 goaltender in the world
. He was pulled. If he was injured, they would have parked his sorry ass on the bench right away".Either way I do apologize for calling you out. Whatever you posted on that board has no relevance here and I shouldn't have posted what I did.
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